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Germany: Gun registry deadline is 2005

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited August 2003 in General Discussion
Germany gun registry deadline is 2005


Stars and Stripes
European edition, Saturday, August 16, 2003



Americans in Germany have until June 30, 2005 to get their privately owned firearms registered with German authorities. Until that deadline, firearms owners must either comply with German registration requirements, ship their firearms stateside or legally dispose of them.

Once firearms are officially registered with German authorities, they must continue to be stored in a local arms room. Owners are allowed to take firearms out only to ship them to the United States or after the arms have been registered on a valid German weapons possession card.

U.S. personnel may qualify for the card by successfully completing the U.S. forces hunting course or sport shooting program. Contact any Morale, Welfare and Recreation rod and gun club for more information.

Privately owned firearms not registered by the June 30 deadline will be considered contraband and seized and disposed of in coordination with German authorities.

More information on the policy can be obtained by calling the U.S. Forces Registry of Motor Vehicles at DSN 386-7271 or civilian 0621-718-7271.

To get information on shipping firearms stateside, call the U.S. European Command at DSN 381-7466 or civilian 0621-730-7466.
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=16395&archive=true

"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878<P>
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  • cpilericpileri Member Posts: 447 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All jews found in possession of arms will be subject to imprisonment and a fine.



    (p.s. yeah, right. a fine. is that all?)
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  • wapo3030wapo3030 Member Posts: 455 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you give up your guns "WE" will protect you.
    Hitler to Poland....sometime in the early to mid 30s
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  • trooperchintrooperchin Member Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, maybe i dont want to be stationed in Germany when i join up.

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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Germany was really the last country to ban U.S. military members from bringing privately owned firearms with them overseas to protect them.


    Number of Germans killed from U.S. military member's private firearms....probably 0, counting after the Second World War.

    Al Quaeda knows our soldiers are unarmed living off-base over there. They popped a Army Private, I believe he was, scraping the frost off the windshield of his Mustang getting ready to go to PT, over there awhile ago in Germany.....Never heard anymore about it on the news.


    Screw Germany. The only good thing about the whole country is McDonalds sells beer through the drive thru window.



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  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    It's nice to see that tyranny is alive and well even in some of the most developed of nations.

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  • mohawk600mohawk600 Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nitrouz........don't just limit it to Germany.........screw the rest of the friggin world. We give billions of dollars in aid to a myriad of countries every single year and never see a single penny in repayment. Usually what we do get from them is a big stiff middle finger thrown in our direction, a hardy thunb of the nose, and ridicule for being the stupid generous sorts that we are.

    I say screw 'em all and let them sink and stink into the cesspools of their own creation.
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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A few years back a number of new regulations were introduced here in the United States which either prohibited or severly restricted the sale and possession of firearms by non resident aliens. I don't recall a huge out cry from people here in the USA who were angry that these non residents were no longer able to purchase or possess firearm in this country. At least the Germans are allowing U.S. serivice personel the ability to continue to own their personal firearms while they remain stationed in Germany-- they did not have to do this. I'll wager that today there are very few German military personel purchasing any firearms while stationed here in the USA while training or on NATO force exchange. The fact that U.S. military personel were previously not requiered to register their privately held firearms was a very sore spot with many German shooters who were forced to comply. Looking at it from the reverse: If foreign non residents did not have to comply with the 1994 Crime Bill while living or stationed here in the USA it would surely cause a huge stink among American gun owners who have to comply with this law.

    Mark T. Christian
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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mark Foreign non residents didn't ever beat our rears in a war.

    We beat Germany's. Now their britches are bigger because Uncle Sam is allowing them to DISARM American Soldiers in there homes.

    You think the German Govt. merely wants U.S. Soldiers to 'register' their Arms. Military Commands are restricting the importation of firearms and making U.S. military members mail their firearms back to the states.

    Mailing firearms through the US Postal Service is illegal, but it's ok because we don't want to tick of the Germans and make them feel safe.

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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shipping firearms through the U.S. Mail is not illegal and is done all of the time by both dealers and unlicensed individuals (long guns only)-- don't want to mail them? Ship them using a contract carrier. Service personel stationed overseas also have the use of a special military only BATF Form 6 for importing their firearms. The French helped us in the Revolutionary War but I have heard VERY few friendly comments about them lately. Try your same comment about the Germans using a French perspective Nitro: "We helped those Americans beat the British and win their independence and now they are too big for their britches and do nothing but bad mouth us". By the way, how are your eyes doing?

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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So Mark your saying if I don't have an FFL, I can mail a gun to my dad through the U.S. postal service and be in compliance?

    USPS Regulations say only military Officer's may mail firearms, not enlisted.

    My eyes are great. The first week was rough but worth the pain.

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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Right off the bat I am very happy to hear that your eyes are doing well. I am too much of a coward to ever have that surgery...I'll wear glasses forever! You missed a great gun show in Reno, the best I've been to in several years! I walked out with three pistols, a nice M1, an arm load of accessories, and I won a beautiful M1 Carbine at the Garand Collectors Association annual meeting which was going on at the same time. All in all it was a great weekend!

    Now then, I did not say anything about not needing a Federal Firearms License to recieve firearms through interstate commerce; the question was whether or not is was legal to mail firearms and it is perfectly legal for dealer to do this as well as unlicensed indivduals to ship long guns through the mail for replacement or repairs as speicified in the Gun Control Act of 1968. C&R holders can also mail their long guns. The possible prohibition of mailing firearms was the subject of your comment and not the need for an FFL-- your dad would need a license to receive your firearms from ANY shipper. Postal regulations regarding firearms are covered in detail in Title 18, USC, Chapter 83, Section 1715 and reading this should clear up any questions. Officers are allowed to ship pistols which are used in the connection of their offical duties. This may or may not include warrant officers, I don't know but I would suspect it does not unless they are commissioned.

    Mark T. Christian
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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad to hear you made out good at the gun show! I couldn't find anyone to drive over there with me (incase my eyes acted up), all my friends are deployed right now. I did some shopping online and ordered accessories for my AR15 and did some more research on South Dakota getting ready for my move soon.


    Here's a link where the U.S. Military said it's ok to mail guns through the US Postal Service without a FFL, violating US Postal regulations....to comply with German Law.


    It's ok to violate Postal Regulations to disarm U.S. Soldier's in their homes overseas....just looky. We want Al Quaeda to kill us, we are stupid.
    http://www.hqusareur.army.mil/htmlinks/Press_Releases/2002/Aug2002/14Aug2002-01.htm

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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    wow, no arguments...

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  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nitrouz - When Mark Christian speaks on firearms matters, remove thy sandals for thou art standing on holy ground.
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  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nitrouz - When Mark Christian speaks on firearms matters, remove thy sandals for thou art standing on holy ground.
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  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many U.S. Soldiers now are unarmed living in German communities, as Germany banned their right to self defense. The Department of Defense doesn't care if they are all killed otherwise they would of said 'ok Germany....we will ISSUE every service member a firearm for self defense since you took their right away'.......

    It's no laughing matter. People are going to die and no one but me gives a rats rear.

    One person has already been shot in Germany on his way to work, scraping the ice off the windshield of his car. What happened after that? He had to drive himself to a hospital bleeding all over hios Ford Mustang......how's that for our forces being secure.

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