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80% Receiver Finishing
cbxjeff
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A friend asked me this at lunch and I think I know the answer but would like more knowledgeable opinions.
A guy buys an 80% AR receiver and lacking the shop skills takes it to a machine shop with the appropriate jigs and drawings. Can that shop do the work without the appropriate FFL license (I forget the mfgr license number)?
Thanks guys,
A guy buys an 80% AR receiver and lacking the shop skills takes it to a machine shop with the appropriate jigs and drawings. Can that shop do the work without the appropriate FFL license (I forget the mfgr license number)?
Thanks guys,
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A guy buys an 80% AR receiver and lacking the shop skills takes it to a machine shop with the appropriate jigs and drawings. Can that shop do the work without the appropriate FFL license (I forget the mfgr license number)?
Not any more. The machine shop visits came to an end over a decade ago when the ATF put the kibosh on guys dropping by to do the final work on unfinished receivers. In fact, even the individual owner of the receiver cannot use the shop's equipment to finish it without the shop having an FFL. As M1A762 stated, the shop will need a Type 07 FFL and be registered for all related taxes.
Maybe it's a free states thing but one still needs to anno or paint and bake.
Oh as for ugly finished 80%ers they still work with all kinds of chips, dings and slop. After all you can find after market makers sell over sized pins and shims.
I have always thought the same just buy a stripped lower . and move on .
but there is a lot of people who do not want there name attached to any gun so the added expense to them is well worth it. no paper work / record exist .
another example of that mind set
local gun shows here face to face is legal . so a lot of guns get sold as private collections no paper work and most bring as much or more as a new one for the same reason, no paper work and no one knows who bought / sold or has them .
quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
I don't get why folks are still messing with 80%ers when finished receivers are less than $100 with papers. Being in California where one now has to number and paper 80%ers I don't get it. Besides a jig is what $100? To recoup that cost one becomes a manufacturer or take on partners o kick in for the jig.
Maybe it's a free states thing but one still needs to anno or paint and bake.
Oh as for ugly finished 80%ers they still work with all kinds of chips, dings and slop. After all you can find after market makers sell over sized pins and shims.
I don't get why folks are still messing with 80%ers when finished receivers are less than $100 with papers. Being in California where one now has to number and paper 80%ers I don't get it. Besides a jig is what $100? To recoup that cost one becomes a manufacturer or take on partners o kick in for the jig.
Maybe it's a free states thing but one still needs to anno or paint and bake.
Oh as for ugly finished 80%ers they still work with all kinds of chips, dings and slop. After all you can find after market makers sell over sized pins and shims.
Uh, you can't see why??? There is also satisfaction in doing things for yourself. YMMV.
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I have a FFL because I am an engraver. a few years ago I bought a C Sharps action and barrel from C Sharps to engrave. I engraved the gun put a stock on it and sold it. Three years later the ATF went through my books and said that was manufacturing. I receive a warning. If C sharps had done the stock I probably would have been OK.
If you're afraid of metal chips giving away your nefarious intent; there are POLYMER lowers and jigs, and you can melt the leftovers.
But with the ever-burgeoning surveillance state, and the non-PC nature of firearms ownership; those $45 stripped lowers are a bargain.
I wonder why take it to a machine shop, when absolutely everybody and their dog is selling screw-together jigs that only need a drill press to use.
If you're afraid of metal chips giving away your nefarious intent; there are POLYMER lowers and jigs, and you can melt the leftovers.
But with the ever-burgeoning surveillance state, and the non-PC nature of firearms ownership; those $45 stripped lowers are a bargain.
This jig uses a router.
https://www.5dtactical.com/ar-15-80-lower-jig-p/5d-jig15.htm
The local gun shop in my town sells 80% Glocks. Here in CA.
Thanks for the heads up on that!
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Thanks,
If you look at the final paragraph it is not ambiguous, the shop needs an FFL.