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America's Saddam

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
America's Saddam
Jack Wheeler
Thrusday, September 19, 2002
In light of Janet Reno's concession of defeat in Florida's primary elections, and as an addendum to Chris Ruddy and Carl Limbacher's current bestseller "Catastrophe," America needs to remember the horrific evil perpetrated by then-Attorney General Reno in the first months of the Clinton presidency.

In March of 1993, I was the keynote speaker at a conference of business and civic leaders held in Indianapolis. One of those attending was a federal judge named Joe (it's best not to mention his last name). He seemed a nice, decent fellow who not once hinted that (as I had been informed by the organizer of the conference) he was on the short list of candidates to be the new Director of the FBI. The current FBI Director, William Sessions, had announced his attention to resign as soon as the recently-inaugurated Bill Clinton found a replacement. Joe and I sat together at lunch and the conversation was pleasant - until someone at the table brought up Waco.

The ATF had assaulted the Davidian church complex a month earlier, and the standoff was ensuing with the final holocaust a month away. When I asked Joe what he thought of what was going on at Waco, his entire demeanor and body language changed, his face turned purple with rage, and he announced: "I'll tell you what the FBI should do. Those people [the Davidians] killed Federal Agents. We should go in there and kill every last one of them."

Someone responded, "There are children in there, Joe." Joe brushed the comment aside with a wave of his hand. "You don't understand. No one can get away with killing Federal Agents. They all deserve to be killed in return."

Joe was passed over in favor of Louis Freeh, but he exemplified the mindset not just of the FBI but of so many in law enforcement in general. As anyone who has made the mistake of arguing with a police officer giving them a traffic ticket understands, the most heinous crime anyone can commit, more evil and depraved than child molestation, is Contempt of Cop.

You know the joke: a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged; a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested. Smart-mouth a cop and you're asking for a world of grief. Fight back and defend yourself from police action, no matter what the action is, and your life is in danger.

This is what happened at Waco. The Davidians tried to defend themselves from an armed ATF raid, set up as a pure publicity stunt to better argue for increased funding. That the raid had a flimsy pretext and was botched was irrelevant to the Federal law enforcement community, however. No matter how and why, Federal Agents were killed and revenge had to be taken. The FBI man in charge of the siege and final death raid of April 19, Richard Rogers, thought exactly like Joe.

It is important to grasp that what happened in Waco was no accident, that the Davidians were killed on purpose in an act of revenge by the American government. And it is important to know just how they were killed, that the method of their killing was as grisly and evil as anything perpetrated by Saddam Hussein.

On the morning of April 19, 1993, the FBI smashed holes into the Davidian church complex, and began pumping in a chemical warfare agent known as CS (o-chlorobenzylidenemalononitrile). It is a solid in the form of white crystals. The FBI dissolved the CS powder in an organic solvent so they could liquid spray it in to the buildings. A lot of attention has been paid to the horror of CS, but not much on the solvent.

It's called methylene chloride, MC. Ever bought paint remover and noticed the label warning to use it "only in a well-ventilated area"? That's because it contains MC. The effects of MC are exactly the same as those of chloroform if you use twice as much of it. When a person breathes MC (or chloroform at half the concentration) vapor he or she first becomes irritable. Second, they lose their coordination and judgement, while their vision becomes blurred. Third, they become paranoid and hyper-excitable. Fourth, they experience auditory and visual hallucinations. Fifth, they lapse into muscular paralysis and unconsciousness.

It is this fifth stage that caused surgeons to use chloroform as the first anesthetic in the 19th century. But doctors switched to ether because of uncontrollable behavior of the patients going through the first four stages - and because of a last sixth stage. If you use only about two times as much chloroform as it takes to render someone unconscious, the patient suffers respiratory paralysis, stops breathing, and dies. It is the same with MC.

The FBI cut off the electricity to the Davidians and knew all they had for light were kerosene lamps. Yet they sprayed into their buildings hundreds of pounds of methylene chloride which makes people stumble around like they're drunk with no coordination, with blurry vision, hallucinating and excitable: A guarantee that kerosene lamps would be knocked over and fires started.

In the presence of fire, MC vapor decomposes into hydrogen chloride, which has the same effect on any moisture-laden area of the body as sulfur mustard gas used in World War I: excruciating searing pain in the eyes, the mucous lining of the nose, and the lungs. Remember that the FBI used MC as a solvent to dissolve CS crystals. It turns out that when CS is burned, it produces hydrogen cyanide, the same gas used to execute prisoners on Death Row.

During the Iran-Iraq war, Saddam Hussein discovered the most lethal chemical warfare agent was a combination of sulfur mustard gas with hydrogen cyanide, which he used in artillery shells to slaughter thousands of Iranians. It was in effect this same combination that the FBI used to slaughter 87 men, women, and children in Waco.

The question is: who authorized the CS/MC combination? CS is not normally dissolved into a solution. Who knew about MC and could order it to be a solvent for CS? Sit down, folks, and hold on tight: Janet Reno has a Bachelor of Science Degree in Chemistry from Cornell University. Cornell has a very good chemistry department. MC is used as an organic solvent for many experiments. There is no question Reno would be very familiar with it, and was informed of its dangers by her professors. Janet Reno is America's Saddam Hussein.

Congressman Bob Barr (R-GA) has a coroner's photograph taken of one of the Davidian victims entitled "Doe #57." It is of a little girl around five or six years old, her charred body burned beyond recognition and twisted in the ghastly rictus contortion typical of subjection to hydrogen cyanide.

There are few more monstrous crimes against humanity than torturing children to death in screaming pain, poison gassing them to death on purpose. That the perpetrator of this crime wasn't tried and executed for mass homicide, but was instead lionized by the media, served out her term of office, and came close to being elected as the Democrat nominee for the Governor of Florida, says something very dark about human nature.

The slaughter of American citizens by their government at Waco was dismissed by many Americans because the people killed were "just cultists" -- like Germans who excused Nazi pogroms because the people killed were "just Jews." As America comes to grips with the danger and evil of Saddam Hussein, and gets ready to extinguish it, America also needs to come to grips with the evil it condoned at Waco.

America condoned a vast amount of depravity during the Clinton years. Yet the depravity of Waco was the worst of all. Unless expunged through public revulsion of Janet Reno, it will remain an ineradicable stain on America's soul.

ccopyright 2002 Dr. Jack Wheeler and the Freedom Research Foundation
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/18/205402.shtml


"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

Comments

  • capecodcapecod Member Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't think of the proper word or words to define my reaction to what you have written - its beyond shocking. What they did were the acts of monsters - not law enforcement. For once I'm at a loss for words!
    John

    John in PA
  • mkirklandmkirkland Member Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And we as Americans paint Nazi's as monsters? I think the American government is in the same league. Our government is the same as afganistan or Iraq. They allow us to find out about only things that they want us to and they twist the truth to fit whatever agenda they want us to accept and stand behind. I wonder how many seemingly justified actions really were terrorist acts in disguise? Our own government murdering innocent people. Are we really in a Democracy? Or is the different government agencies the American S.S.? This is disgusting. Everyday I lose more and more faith in our Government.
  • Jungle JimJungle Jim Member Posts: 264
    edited November -1
    If what this writer says is true, there are a lot of people in serious trouble along with Janet Reno. She said in a press conference "I take full responsibility for the Waco incident". I hope they take her to task on that. As many of you know, I live within 50 miles of where it happened, which was closer to the town of Elk than Waco. Still, Waco was tied to the tragedy because it's a larger town, and no one ever heard of Elk. Most of the FBI & ATF people involved have retired, and probably feel they are immune from prosecution. I hope they can be prosecuted, and that something becomes of this. It's strange that I haven't heard anything about this on any of the networks, and I also wonder how he found out about the MC they used.

    I drove out there after the area was cleaned up, and felt the same eerie feeling one gets on an old battlefield. All those children dying -- what a shame.

    Jim

    Edited by - Jungle Jim on 09/19/2002 22:03:52
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    David discovered something that may had bring Us goverment DOWN so they took him down first......

    Now Karmicaly is goverments turn to go down ......

    JD

    400 million cows can't be wrong ( EAT GRASS !!! )
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    Judge, if that's true ,I hope it happens in the lifetimes of the people who perpetrated this atrocity!

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  • snake-eyessnake-eyes Member Posts: 869
    edited November -1
    Well if the whole nation watched it's government slaughter these people on tv and no one took action to protect the Davidian's, I doubt we will ever see anyone get punished for this. It would bring bad face to the Department and they wouldn't want that to happen.

    If we were truly American's some 'rogue' Army Commander should of sent in an Apache to fend off the illegal raid on some American's he is sworn to defend. But then his chances for a seat in the Pentagon or Congress would of been shot.



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