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One Of You Hates My 11 Round Mag.
tr fox
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OK, OK, it's not quite that serious but I didn't know any easy way to make my opening statement and have it all fit into the subject box. But at least one member here seems to have a fondness for the so called "Clinton Assualt Weapons Ban", at least in regards to the 10 round limitation on post-ban magazines. I don't want to be a name caller, but if you read my topic "Did I Make You Violate A Gun Law" perhaps you will spot the person I am talking about. If I am wrong, then by not naming that person then no harm done. But if you can spot his/her seemingly agreement with the ban, then so be it. But even at that I basically am just posting this because I want to communicate with that person.
I have a lot of disagreements with the so called "Clinton Assualt Weapons Ban" (CAWB from now on). It is a law that can make criminals out of honest but careless gun owners and worse, it does little or no good for the public. Why make a restrictive gun law that burdens the honest gun owners, costs the government time and money to enforce but DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO ANY GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC? Isn't that kind of like the tag on your mattress "do not remove under penalty of the law"? or some such example.
But here is a specific example of how the law is no good. Until I "retired" I worked in the armored transportation industry for nearly 10 years. One example. I have actually met a commercial jet on the tarmac at the airport and my partner and I loaded 148 million dollars ($148,000,000.00) onto our vehicle. Folks that is enough cash to cause the army from some small country to come in with helicopters and try and steal that money. So of course we carried guns and thought at some point our life would likely depend on how well those guns worked. I carried a 40 cal S&W model 4046 but because I was not the exalted "law enforcement" I was llimited to the civilian 10 round mag. But believe me I carried a lot of mags. So you think problem solved, right? Wrong. The LEO mags carried only (ONLY) one round more for 11 rounds. But because my mag was limited to ONLY one round less, it had to be designed and manufactuered diffently than the LEO mags. The body of the mag was much different, the spring was a whole lot different and even the follower was different than the LEO version. Now folks, check with ANY engineer or gun designer. Anytime you have two different designs trying to do the same job ONE DESIGN IS GOING TO WORK BETTER THAN THE OTHER! Simple fact of life. The LEO could use either mag he chose. I could only use the 10 round mag. What if (boy he/she hates that phrase), what if the civillian version was imperfect comparred to the LEO version and "what if" (there it is again!) I got into a gunfight and my civilian mag failed whereas the LEO mag would have saved my life. Is that reasonable or fair? Opinions please.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
I have a lot of disagreements with the so called "Clinton Assualt Weapons Ban" (CAWB from now on). It is a law that can make criminals out of honest but careless gun owners and worse, it does little or no good for the public. Why make a restrictive gun law that burdens the honest gun owners, costs the government time and money to enforce but DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO ANY GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC? Isn't that kind of like the tag on your mattress "do not remove under penalty of the law"? or some such example.
But here is a specific example of how the law is no good. Until I "retired" I worked in the armored transportation industry for nearly 10 years. One example. I have actually met a commercial jet on the tarmac at the airport and my partner and I loaded 148 million dollars ($148,000,000.00) onto our vehicle. Folks that is enough cash to cause the army from some small country to come in with helicopters and try and steal that money. So of course we carried guns and thought at some point our life would likely depend on how well those guns worked. I carried a 40 cal S&W model 4046 but because I was not the exalted "law enforcement" I was llimited to the civilian 10 round mag. But believe me I carried a lot of mags. So you think problem solved, right? Wrong. The LEO mags carried only (ONLY) one round more for 11 rounds. But because my mag was limited to ONLY one round less, it had to be designed and manufactuered diffently than the LEO mags. The body of the mag was much different, the spring was a whole lot different and even the follower was different than the LEO version. Now folks, check with ANY engineer or gun designer. Anytime you have two different designs trying to do the same job ONE DESIGN IS GOING TO WORK BETTER THAN THE OTHER! Simple fact of life. The LEO could use either mag he chose. I could only use the 10 round mag. What if (boy he/she hates that phrase), what if the civillian version was imperfect comparred to the LEO version and "what if" (there it is again!) I got into a gunfight and my civilian mag failed whereas the LEO mag would have saved my life. Is that reasonable or fair? Opinions please.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
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IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY RIGHTS - GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY (this includes politicians)
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
I have 10, 11, 15, 20 and 30 round magazines for my pistols. [8D]
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
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This was the Ancient law of Youth
Old times are past, old times are done:
But the Law runs true, O little son!
May I ask one question?
You have noted on numerous posts the fact
you are (were) uncomfortable with the design/engineering
of your handgun.
Why did you not select a different piece if such was
the case?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Mark T. Christian
He doesn't have to agree with it..do you agree with 20,000 gun laws ? BUT...He does have to obey it..as we all obey the stupid,obnoxious,insane laws the Fedgov and NRA have saddled us with..
Want to do something constructive ?..Call your Senator,ask him to ban ALL guns...give the police authority to go door to door,collecting them....
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
Michael
Paranoid keeps you alive, worry just gives you stomach problems.
sound
And in regards to your question you caught me in a little exagerattion. I not the lying kind, but I didn't think it made any difference to anyone so I tried to keep my statement short and to the point. We actually had 2 armored vehicles and 4 crew members and each vehhicle only had approximately 75 million on board. They were wrapped in brown plastic and each "bundle" contained 1 million dollars. I don't know the weight, but each bundle felt like weighed approximately 20-30 pounds. Only took about 30-45 minutes to load because we were very anxious to get moving.
highball: say what?
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Keep whinning about the un-Constitutional gun laws....keep following the mis-leaders in the gov and nra as they lead you over the cliff..watch the slow,steady sure erosion of your RIGHTS...given by God,removed by those you trust........
OR....allow the Socialists that which they so earnestly desire..the laws to totally disarm the populace of America..the last,great hope of Mankind before the Coming.....Then,My friend..you will have to stand and be counted ....either as an American...or as a sniveling coward,unfit to shine the boots of a free man. Which do you chose..?..A decision you and many others may have to make in your lifetime........
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
You can't disarm an armed populace over 1 generation.
Over two or three generations and several thousand laws later you can have a completely unarmed populace.......Their Goal.
When I build my house in 9 years I am going to incorporate a buried school bus into the foundation....accessed by a tunnel. My sons and their sons and their sons will all have whatever they need no matter if firearms are completely banned.
Hopefully others will be thinking ahead and do the same.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Highball: you and I see eye to eye on a lot of things, keep posting man!!!
When they come to get your GUNS, make sure to give them the AMMO first!!!
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
How much does 148 million dollars weigh?
If it were in $20 bills it would be almost 8 tons.
"Go to Lakedaemon, stranger passing by;
And say there, that in obedience to her law, here we lie"