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shellitout
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teachers being trained to use and carry a firearm in schools. I know the laws right now does not permit it but with all the school shootings going on, I don't think it would be a bad idea.
What is your take on it? Good or bad.
What is your take on it? Good or bad.
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teachers being trained to use and carry a firearm in schools. I know the laws right now does not permit it but with all the school shootings going on, I don't think it would be a bad idea.
What is your take on it? Good or bad.
An armed society is a polite society.
quote:Originally posted by shellitout
teachers being trained to use and carry a firearm in schools. I know the laws right now does not permit it but with all the school shootings going on, I don't think it would be a bad idea.
What is your take on it? Good or bad.
An armed society is a polite society.
+1000000
This is a tough call. In the case of airline pilots I think being armed is a good idea because an aircraft is a very confined and isolated area with only one place where a terrorist can go to sieze control of the plane--the cockpit itself. Schools are typically large, many are multi-level and offer lots of rooms and hiding places. Unless you arm every teacher (some simply won't carry a gun), janitor and administrator you would have to hope that the nuts trying to take over the school just happened to walk by an "armed" classroom. It would also be possible that whoever was trying to terrorize a particular school would know ahead of time which teachers were carrying a gun and which were unarmed.
Only one thing to add to your thought:
If a criminal knows that some or most of the teachers may be armed that in it's self is a deturent. A criminal won't know which of these are armed or not. That is gunna make them think twice.
This is a tough call. In the case of airline pilots I think being armed is a good idea because an aircraft is a very confined and isolated area with only one place where a terrorist can go to sieze control of the plane--the cockpit itself. Schools are typically large, many are multi-level and offer lots of rooms and hiding places. Unless you arm every teacher (some simply won't carry a gun), janitor and administrator you would have to hope that the nuts trying to take over the school just happened to walk by an "armed" classroom. It would also be possible that whoever was trying to terrorize a particular school would know ahead of time which teachers were carrying a gun and which were unarmed.
That's why its called concealed carry, so other people don't know you are carrying, even if NO teacher carried, just the fact that they could be, would act as a deterrent.
The fact that they can't is a big "take your hostage here" sign, all a nut job has to do is watch for the "school liaison officer" to leave and he/she/they have a very soft target, with no possibility of armed resistance.
Don
Keep the bad guys guessing because I am betting that right now those parents wish those teachers had been armed.
Virtually every peace officer in this country is armed and that does not appear to be a deterent keeping people from assaulting cops.
Look at the numbers:
How many people are engaged by cops each day? How many of these actually assault cops?
I would say that the numbers that actually assault cops is very small when you look at it that way.
Yes there will allways be that one whako out there.
But you Kristov are useing the same argument as the anti-gun folk.
Are you turning ANTI on us? If so just send me your guns now! I'll give them a good home!
Do you really want all ten of them [:0]?
Are you turning ANTI on us? If so just send me your guns now! I'll give them a good home!
Do you really want all ten of them [:0]?
Damn k, I'll take whatever you want to get rid of, and count myself fortunate to have it. Thanks.[;)]
I think it is sad that teachers would consider it while in school. Kids need to behave bottom line.
Why not? The principal of my High school was rumored to keep a ".38"
in his desk. It's not always kids who are mis-behaving.[:(]
http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/school_violence/school_shootings.html
Don
Are you turning ANTI on us? If so just send me your guns now! I'll give them a good home!
Do you really want all ten of them [:0]?
You bet I do!
My ex did away with alot of my guns too. So I am rebuilding myself.
I have been averaging about 1 1/2 guns a month for the last year on my rebuilding. And it is starting to look like a collection again. I think 10 more would help it along very nicely.
E-mail me your address I will send you a copy of my local FFL's licence and you can ship them to him to do the transfer. I am sure he will be more than happy to do it. Heck, since I have a CWP he doesn't even have to call in, He just puts it in his log I fill out the form and hands them to me.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:o)][:o)][:o)]
but how can you make sure another tragedy doesn't happen?
I don't know.
but how can you make sure another tragedy doesn't happen
Ah....That's the fallacy. You don't make sure it doesn't happen. You could never do that. You simply learn from every lesson. The thing I gleaned from this one is that every student needs to be more aware of his surroundings. This clown in Colorado actually talked to a bunch of students before he took hostages. It should've raised all kinds of red flags, but the students all just shrugged it off and went about their day. In Casonovia (SP?) the student was intercepted, and a shotgun wrestled from him. He just didn't get beat hard enough to keep him from getting back up.
Everyone should carry firearms in school. Except the cafeteria lady...
Yea, shes dangerous enough. Don
I've had to do a lot of "Career Days" at high schools, rurally and in a large metropolitan city. In general, comparing rural schools with metropolitan schools, I've found there's a BIG difference in the attitudes of teachers, parents, AND students!
Personally, I believe our school systems should be run like military academies, and parents that are not involved with their kids should be spayed or neutered!
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
Everyone should carry firearms in school. Except the cafeteria lady...
Yea, shes dangerous enough. Don
Yup. The Tuna Surprise should be registered with the BATFE
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by shellitout
teachers being trained to use and carry a firearm in schools. I know the laws right now does not permit it but with all the school shootings going on, I don't think it would be a bad idea.
What is your take on it? Good or bad.
An armed society is a polite society.
+1000000
Times 1,000,000,000
I think more security would be better, more armed security in the halls and such.
I.E. US Army Infantry. Bigger schools get bigger weapon systems. Average sized schools get M4s and M9s.
Honestly, though, I do think it's a good idea that someone have some means of defence on the school property. However, with the number of rooms in the average school, and consequently the number of places someone could hide, the school staff would have to be not only trained on how to use firearms, but how to clear rooms. Then, they would have to be continually drilled on it to make sure they are proficient at it when the time comes.
I don't think it's practical to arm the school staff...which is why I suggested the Army.
For how many people there are out there, how many nuts are out there, how defenseless the school systems really are, I'm suprised we haven't seen anything happen much worse than anything we've seen before. Thank God it hasn't but I'm saying, they really need to take a serious look at this and DO SOMETHING.
I say arm any staff member who's willing. Some schools might have a principal cut out for the job. Others, it may be a janitor. Some it may be both. Certainly don't make it mandatory. Heck, offer a small percent bonus to their retirement package for the ones who carry. People will be all for anything that involves monetary gain and it would be a lot cheaper than hiring security.
Have a system in place that they have to qualify with the firearm on a yearly basis. Not impossible but at least make em hit a plate at 25 yards. At least weed out the money hungry ones.
I believe that training anyone to be prepared to utilize firearms in a school would have to be on at least a monthly basis, if not weekly.
The potential for innocents being hit by "friendly fire" is scary.