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nunn
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You have seen it. Mom and kids are downstairs in kitchen. Bad guy smashes a window out. Alarm sounds. Mom and kids run upstairs and barricade themselves in a bedroom. Immediately the phone rings and it is Brinks. Upon finding out there is a problem, the Brinks guy says he will call police.
This is such BS!
Probably Mom would not have the alarm on when she and the rest of the family are up and active. Can't chance a false alarm if someone opens a door. Normally the alarm would be armed when everyone goes to bed.
Bad guy breaks the window. Alarm sounds instantly. This can happen, depending on how the system is set up. Bad guy runs off.
Mom is shown barricading the bedroom door with a chair, but she DOES NOT ARM HERSELF. She performed admirably, but she should have taken cover behind the bed with a gun trained on the door.
The phone rings as soon as she gets to the bedroom. MORE BS! You can count on a delay of several minutes before you get the call from the security office. Also, the alarm will keep your phone line tied up while it is reporting, unless you install it on a dedicated line.
In the real world, if someone tried to break into your house, and you have an alarm, this is how it works:
Entry is made or attempted.
30 seconds later, the alarm starts to sound and/or report. A lot can happen in 30 seconds.
2 to 10 minutes later, the alarm company will try to call to see if everything is OK. A lot more can happen in that amount of time.
If things are not OK, police will come. Figure another 5 to 30 minutes for response.
You get the picture.
You better be able to retreat to a position of cover and defend yourself until the cavalry arrives.
Alarms exist to restrict burglars to what they can carry in one trip.
One night, I was on patrol and drove past an appliance rental store. The front plate glass window was smashed. I had gone past when I noticed it, so I did a U-turn and came back.
The burglars had already come and gone. They smashed the window, ran in, grabbed a stack of VCRs and ran out again. They were long gone.
Point is, all this happened before the alarm reported. I pulled into the parking lot and notified dispatch that I was checking a broken window. As I was getting out of the car, dispatch told me that the alarm was just then reporting.
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This is such BS!
Probably Mom would not have the alarm on when she and the rest of the family are up and active. Can't chance a false alarm if someone opens a door. Normally the alarm would be armed when everyone goes to bed.
Bad guy breaks the window. Alarm sounds instantly. This can happen, depending on how the system is set up. Bad guy runs off.
Mom is shown barricading the bedroom door with a chair, but she DOES NOT ARM HERSELF. She performed admirably, but she should have taken cover behind the bed with a gun trained on the door.
The phone rings as soon as she gets to the bedroom. MORE BS! You can count on a delay of several minutes before you get the call from the security office. Also, the alarm will keep your phone line tied up while it is reporting, unless you install it on a dedicated line.
In the real world, if someone tried to break into your house, and you have an alarm, this is how it works:
Entry is made or attempted.
30 seconds later, the alarm starts to sound and/or report. A lot can happen in 30 seconds.
2 to 10 minutes later, the alarm company will try to call to see if everything is OK. A lot more can happen in that amount of time.
If things are not OK, police will come. Figure another 5 to 30 minutes for response.
You get the picture.
You better be able to retreat to a position of cover and defend yourself until the cavalry arrives.
Alarms exist to restrict burglars to what they can carry in one trip.
One night, I was on patrol and drove past an appliance rental store. The front plate glass window was smashed. I had gone past when I noticed it, so I did a U-turn and came back.
The burglars had already come and gone. They smashed the window, ran in, grabbed a stack of VCRs and ran out again. They were long gone.
Point is, all this happened before the alarm reported. I pulled into the parking lot and notified dispatch that I was checking a broken window. As I was getting out of the car, dispatch told me that the alarm was just then reporting.
SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the best gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net
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Far better to have 911 on the speed dial. Press one button, and at least the police are notified.
But if you can't protect yourself until the cavalry arrives, you, and perhaps your loved ones, may pay the ultimate price.
I just can't understand how people who will otherwise go to great lengths to protect their families do little or nothing to prepare to deal with intruders. Stupid and irresponsible.
And these Brinks commercials are the height of irresponsibility and greed, because those folks know better, and they are encouraging reliance on ineffective measures, for profit.
redcedars
and with the panic button they just call the police
the one good thing about the alarm is it pages me when it has been set or disarmed it tells me who was in the house and where they went in and when they left
and a mouse will set it off[:D][:D]
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I was mowing one day and a rock went thru a window of a home. Tenant had put some kind of security system on it. ( without my knowledge). It started this unawefull loud pulsing noise. I went in the home and the phone was ringing. This rude moron ask me for a code. I said I was the landlord. Even gave him some info on tenant. Didn't do any good. They sent their own security guy out. He was about 20 years old and weighed maybe 135#. This was maybe an hour later. I shut this noise off by removing the battery and electic hookup in about 2 minutes max. Security guy was very rude to me upon arrival and even wanted me to show ID.of all kind. After about 1 minute of this, I ask him to get the ---- off my premise or he would need medical attention. Enough was enough.
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quote:but she should have taken cover behind the bed with a gun trained on the door.
a) this would be 'concealment', not 'cover', as the bed (even one with a thick frame and large matress) offers no protection from a firearm; and b) it's poor concealment at that since generally the eye is first drawn to the bed when one enters a bedroom. Even if you're sitting and waiting with a gun, being in the spot the bad guy might look at first is probably not a good thing.
Ok, so it was nitpicking. Sorry, couldn't help myself. I agree, the scenario is BS. Once again, we are being lulled into a false sense of security so that we don't need one of those horrible evil GUN thingies to defend ourselves and family.
TOOLS1 has the right idea: a good dog or dogs, and don't complain when they bark - that's why they are there!
quote:I just can't understand how people who will otherwise go to great lengths to protect their families do little or nothing to prepare to deal with intruders. Stupid and irresponsible.I don't get it either. Every instructor I've ever had (guns, personal protection, etc.) always stressed the need to play mental "what if" scenarios. Most people just don't think about it. I expect, David, that you have plenty of experience with that as a LEO?
Fist week we were in our house, I ripped out the bid oleander in front of the kitchen window and put a lock on the window itself. Wife thought I was getting goofy. I took her outside, in about 45 seconds had the screen off and the window popped out of its track, then explained that the bush gave someone a place to hide while doing this. Then I looked pointedly at our little daughter. End of discussion.
Got a new gun for my ex-wife.....pretty good trade, huh?
None of this stuff is any good at all IF the wife or the occupant of the home has no training with firearms.
Make sure you and your loved ones practice, practice and practice some more.
Your life WILL depend on it.
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Bruce
Let them know who you are and what your protecting with the alarm system. The patrol & beat cops at work are always stopping in for coffee, soda's, ice water, candy, donuts and bathroom breaks. The owner always contributes to the cops kid's softball,football and school activites. I do the same for the cops that patrol my area at home.
The cops know if a zone 1 shows that the phone line is cut & zone 5 is the safe. Same with the company that monitors the alarm, they know if zone 5 goes off, call the cops & atf.
In the past 5yrs only had 2 alarms at home, both times false alarms, but the cops had checked everything as ok, and were waiting for me at the house which is about 10 minutes away.
Same with the neighbors, they know to call the cops if ANYONE is seen around the house that doesn't belong there.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed, no problems yet.
Walte
Support the local cops and they will support you...they are just like us, trying to make a living...with the same concerns for family and friends..
if someone broke into my house i would feel very sorry for them .my dog would stop them dead in their tracks.he barks and growls at anybody who comes near my house ,he is always on the alert.
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When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
1. As pointed out no gun for defense...which is really bad because..
2. In format shown.. that was No burglar...few burglaries take place when the residents are home.
The crime in progress would haved ended as a Rape/murder scene.
Buy a gun...which I guess is a dumb statement for this board...so..buy another gun..
Everyone hears of "bedstand guns, truck guns, back up guns", etc....
I think another should be added "Kitchen Gun"..
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