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"Bullet Proof Vest" and the news

Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
edited December 2003 in General Discussion
Submitted for your consideration:
Original Message
From: Henry O'Reilly [henryreilly@netscape.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:01 AM
To: Bruce D. Kopp
Subject: error

In your story concerning the shooting, you said that the man's life was saved by his "bullet proof vest" - be advised that there is no such thing. Body Armor is excellent for stopping bullets much of the time, but "bullet-proof" vests have not been invented yet. It is this misconception that gets a few idiots killed world wide each year.

Henry James O'Reilly
May the Luck o' the Irish be with ye!

and the news anchor's response:

The term "bulletproof" is in the dictionary. It's definition is "capable of resisting the impact of a bullet." I'd say that's what happened in the case of the IPD officer today, and there's no misconception about the "bulletproof" nature of the vest he was wearing today.

-Bruce Kopp

Should I try to explain it to him again, or let it go?

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  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    Body armour does not resist the impact of a bullet it absorbs it and only to a point. You might want to point out that body armour is progressivly rated by its ability to do so. Body armor can be and is occasionally penetrated. It may be in the dictionary but it is basically a slang term and does not accuratly describe body armor.
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Henry0Reilly


    Should I try to explain it to him again, or let it go?




    Let it go.
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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kevlar is not bullet proof,Im not sure how that term originated.But it is Bullet resistant in most cases as you mention above.But it wont stop a High Powered Rifle and one may stop a 9MM once and the next time with the same load penetrate.Just useing the 9MM as an example.Most Officers are shown at the academy whats what.But still alot of Officers get a false sense of security with them.Ive seen one breast plate shot 50 times or more with every thing from a 9MM to a .45acp and its just full of dents.Some Officers wont even wear the breast plate because its metal and some what uncomfortable.But I say dont leave home with out it.

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  • toolmaniamtoolmaniam Member Posts: 3,213
    edited November -1
    Remember the saying "Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level then beat you with experience."

    A dead intruder cannot testify against you in a court of law!

    If they're still moving, put another round in them!

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  • Chaser11Chaser11 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [xx(] Let it go ,if you give any talking head new reporter enough info. that he realizes "bullit proof" vests can be breached he will try to outlaw the ammo that can or possibably do so, we all have seen this b/4. 89% of the media is liberal = anti ..education is fine for the fair minded, but dangerous in the minds of those who want to distort it to their ends.Just let him believe in webster. [;)]

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  • ruger270manruger270man Member Posts: 9,361 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tell him "retard" is in the dictionary too.

    Yeah, explain it to him, I'm sure that a 4 foot thick piece of steel is bulletproof, but no vest is bulletproof.

    What an idiot.

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  • punchiepunchie Member Posts: 2,792 ✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, what toolmaniam said! Waste of breath and effort by confusing this talking head with facts.

    AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY
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  • ruger 10 22ruger 10 22 Member Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with all that was said above, like how no vest is "bullet proof" just bullet resistant.
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  • SwwboSwwbo Member Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sell this product everyday at work and I'm not touching this one!! Think I'll just sit back and read.. Interesting to see the views of body armor.

    By the way.. Anyone out there with body armor made of ZYLON by Second Chance you need to get those extra panels in your vest.. Second Chance is giving these out for free... Check your vest folks..There is a break down in the fabric after wearing it for awhile..
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  • Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
    edited November -1
    It don't matter what they call it. If you want to straighten out the 'idots' have then get 'assault rifle' correct!!! (not a semi-auto but a select fire)
    Punchie, you got it wrong. "Am armed society is a SAFE society".[^]

    Self defence is an ablsolute and natural right. Keep your powder dry! J. Rau, Alaska
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "McJob" is in the dictionary now too. I heard that Webster added it recently. Maybe Mr. Kopp should get a McJob.
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  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger270man
    Tell him "retard" is in the dictionary too.

    Yeah, explain it to him, I'm sure that a 4 foot thick piece of steel is bulletproof, but no vest is bulletproof.


    Unless you're shooting it with 30mm depleted uranium bullets from an Avenger gatling cannon.

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  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    Tell him to read the operating instructions written on most "bullet-proof" vests. All of them should say something to the effect of, "This Class whatever (1, 2 or 3) vest is resistant to projectiles up to XXX caliber". Either way, you can blast body armor with some good AP steel core ammo and it may stop some...but not all. Invite him to wear one and take a hit from an AK47 loaded with AP rounds.

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  • bigal125bigal125 Member Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What a doofus! Use an example, for instance....

    Water "resistant" does NOT mean water "proof", therefore...

    Bullet "resistant" does NOT mean bullet "proof"!

    If he can't understand that, give him a water-"resistant" jacket and tell him to go jump in a lake! [:)]

    Nah....on the second thought, let the reporter ask the officer if he feels "bullet-proof"...bet the reporter will get an earful!

    Big Al
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  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    bigal, I'd rather somebody throw a "bullet-proof" vest on the reporter and then throw him in the lake.....In fact, load him up with all the "bullet-proof" gear he can wear and then throw him in the lake.

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  • bigal125bigal125 Member Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But, rldowns3, don't you know that if we throw that reporter in the lake with all that "bullet-proof" gear, he'll starting screaming and crying out for a "second chance"! [:D][;)]

    Big Al

    BTW, Happy New Year to you and yours, amigo!
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  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    [:D]

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  • ruger270manruger270man Member Posts: 9,361 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Strap a "bullet proof" vest on him, and shoot him with a .50 cal.

    Shouldn't be a problem, cuz its bullet proof, ya know?

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