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What do Iran, Burma, and S. Dakota have in common?

ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
edited February 2006 in General Discussion
Iran, Burma (Myanmar), Algeria, Kenya, Ehtiopia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, Tanzania, Thailand, Bangladesh, and Congo, along with South Dakota, all have bans on abortion including rape and incest.


Think about that the next time someone says that's the way America should go, because if you want America to be a backward filth-encrusted cesspool, then by all means, follow the lead of the big dogs.

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    ZERODINZERODIN Member Posts: 6,338
    edited November -1
    Correlation.

    Causation.

    Note the difference in spelling.
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    HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    A journey of a 1,000 miles begins with the first step. Forward, 'harch. [;)]
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    dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    So none of these places, including South Dakota, should have the right to pass their own laws and govern themselves as they (the majority) sees fit?

    Interesting!
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    nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, because allowing irresponsible people to murder their infants because they'd get in the way of their lifestyle is SO avant garde, cutting edge and 21st century.

    Shouldn't this be over on politics anyway?
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is always North Dakota. [:D]
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    ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    Zerodin,

    I'll remember you said that the next time you bring up the fact that states with CCLs have lower crime rates than those without.[}:)]



    nemesis,

    So I suppose it's irresponsible of a woman to let herself get raped?

    Take a good look at similarity posted: "...all have bans on abortion including rape and incest."




    dheff,

    The tyranny of the majority should never be used as justification for the oppression of the minority. You know that and I know that. As gun owners (which makes us the minority), we should be leery of anyone using majority will as the sole justification for any sort of legislation.
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    dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    The rights of a state to govern itself should also never be infringed.

    Isn't that somewhere in the constitution that everyone thinks Bush has shredded, and now you support the shredding of this part because you don't agree with it?

    PS, the majority of homes in America have at least one firearm. That's what has Fienstien's panties in a knot!
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    WarMongerWarMonger Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    EMM - Please correct yourself. As of right now South Dakota allows abortions to ANYONE women who wants one at ANYTIME for ANY REASON. A bill has been passed through their house and not even yet signed by their governor that would seek to change current law. As we all know (maybe you dont) , the new law would be contradicting the current precedent of Roe vs Wade and thus not applicable until it was confirmed by the US supreme court. This is years away if anything.

    So dont worry EMM - thE teenage h*o*o*k*e*r that you knocked up can still get your slinky child ripped from her uterus right now and your wife doesnt have to know about it :)
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    Ba SardoBa Sardo Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Warmonger,

    It seems rather hypocritical of you to call anyone a h*o*o*k*e*r* when you are contemplating becoming a pornographer.

    In your "Ethical Question" post, you said you were conflicted - I assume it was between money and your morals.

    If that is a conflict for you, then you are no man at all.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=191072
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    kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    Iran, Burma (Myanmar), Algeria, Kenya, Ehtiopia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, Tanzania, Thailand, Bangladesh, and Congo, along with South Dakota, all have bans on abortion including rape and incest.


    Think about that the next time someone says that's the way America should go, because if you want America to be a backward filth-encrusted cesspool, then by all means, follow the lead of the big dogs.


    I believe that Ireland and Poland are also included in that group. Abortion is virtually banned in Poland, with such heavy restrictions that only around legal 150 abortions are performed per year (down from around 100K when the communists ran the country). What each of those two countries have in common is a whole bunch of meddeling by the church in the day to day running of the government, as well as peoples day to day lives. I used to tell my mother, who longed for the communists to fall from power in her native Poland, that most likely all that would happen was that the Catholic Church would move back in to fill the void after the comminists left and that has happened in many instances.
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    ZERODINZERODIN Member Posts: 6,338
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    Zerodin,

    I'll remember you said that the next time you bring up the fact that states with CCLs have lower crime rates than those without.[}:)]

    Do you care to point me to a time that I've said that without doing a bit more work - such as pointing out that passing a CCL has been quickly followed by a decline in crime rates, or pointing out that you can cross a narrow river and see a tenfold drop in violent crime when the only difference between the two shores is the gun law - or just use my argument against me when the context makes it fall on its face?

    You are saying that an abortion ban turns a place into "a backward filth-encrusted cesspool." Prior to 1970, how many states allowed abortions and how many banned them? Please specifically indicate to us how the states with bans were "backward filth-encrusted cesspool" as compared to the states that allowed abortions, at the time. Otherwise, you have done no better than "Manhattan was bought for an insanely low price, so therefore Alaska will be Bin Laden's next major target."
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    nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So are we to assume that as soon as this law takes effect South Dakota will become a flea-bitten, swamp infested, foreign-aid consuming, America hating, backward, socially stunted hell hole of a wasteland (you know, more than it already is) populated by terrorists, pagans and Muslims?
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    pipskickspipskicks Member Posts: 3,049
    edited November -1
    The causation vs. correlation stands.

    Zerodin says CCW's CAUSE the increase in crime.
    The post said that all 3 states had laws against abortion. It didn't even seem to say outright that those laws caused anything.
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    ZERODINZERODIN Member Posts: 6,338
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pipskicks
    The causation vs. correlation stands.

    Zerodin says CCW's CAUSE the increase in crime.
    The post said that all 3 states had laws against abortion. It didn't even seem to say outright that those laws caused anything.

    Or decrease. You have me confused with your state's delegation to the US Senate, which isn't hard since I look like them. [;)]
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    spurgemasturspurgemastur Member Posts: 5,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by WarMonger
    EMM - Please correct yourself. As of right now South Dakota allows abortions to ANYONE women who wants one at ANYTIME for ANY REASON. A bill has been passed through their house and not even yet signed by their governor that would seek to change current law. As we all know (maybe you dont) , the new law would be contradicting the current precedent of Roe vs Wade and thus not applicable until it was confirmed by the US supreme court. This is years away if anything.

    So dont worry EMM - thE teenage h*o*o*k*e*r that you knocked up can still get your slinky child ripped from her uterus right now and your wife doesnt have to know about it :)


    Wow, where do you get a blade fine enough to split that hair?
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    WarMongerWarMonger Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    EMM incorrectly stated that South Dakota has a ban on certain abortions. In fact they dont.
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    leftytwogunsleftytwoguns Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This same topic was posted in the Politics forum. Aparently there wasn't enough exposure to this angry South Dakota citizens opinion.
    If or when this law is passed, only effect is the loose women of that state will have to drive farther to undo their mistakes.
    Sexual assault isn't that prevalent in South Dakota, I hope.
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    ReserveWCSOjrwReserveWCSOjrw Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would have to say there was a can of worms and ElMuertoMonkey sitting in a room call the General Discussion forum one day. ElMuertoMonkey decided it was time to open that can of worms. The result is what you see above!
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    plains scoutplains scout Member Posts: 4,563
    edited November -1
    quote:There is always North Dakota.

    You betcha![:p]

    Here we go again a runnin in the muck throwing stones that land no where.

    SD home to Dachel? Home to Janklo? Home to no abortion? Home to some great people and some not so great people. Just like the rest of America.

    This post divides people and creates hardship on the board. There are two kind of opinions on this: Those in favor and those against. Both have rational arguments, but that rational thought always turns into religious anti religious positions which are not any more resolvable in discussion than telling Muslims Christians are their friends and telling Christians that all Muslims want is to be understood.

    Back to the political forum where this belongs. Please.
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