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Border Patrol agents shot in Laredo with semi-auto
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Border Patrol agents
shot in Laredo
Suspect in custody allegedly hit officers with semi-automatic rifle
By Jon Dougherty
c 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot and wounded during a traffic stop in Laredo, Texas, by a suspect armed with an SKS semi-automatic rifle.
Police said the two agents were investigating a shooting incident around 11 p.m. Sunday in the 2400 block of Boston St. in west Laredo when a suspect, Jesus Arias Jr., allegedly opened fire on their vehicle. One report said one agent was shot in the arm and shoulder, the other in the lower back, but Border Patrol officials would not confirm details.
Mike Herrera III, a spokesman for the Border Patrol's Laredo sector told WorldNetDaily the agents, whose names have not been released, were taken to Mercy Hospital locally. He said one of the agents has been released, while the other remains hospitalized in stable condition.
One source familiar with the investigation said Arias shot at the agents from behind and that the bullet holes - which numbered at least three - in their vehicle, a pick-up truck, reflect the angle of the attack.
The source said the agents may have been checking or replacing ground sensors used by the Border Patrol to detect illegal-immigrant foot traffic when the call for a shooting came in.
Juan Rivera, a public information officer with the Laredo Police Department, said Arias, 19, was arrested around 1 p.m. Monday in Laredo. Rivera said Arias is a U.S. citizen and was not in the country illegally.
The source told WorldNetDaily the weapon used to attack the agents was an SKS semi-automatic rifle with its barrel shortened and its stock replaced with a pistol grip.
It was unclear whether the overall length of the rifle was legal under Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regulations; a spokesman for the agency told WorldNetDaily rifles cannot be less than 16 inches in length.
The Border Patrol falls under the new Department of Homeland Security.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32306
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878<P>
shot in Laredo
Suspect in custody allegedly hit officers with semi-automatic rifle
By Jon Dougherty
c 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents were shot and wounded during a traffic stop in Laredo, Texas, by a suspect armed with an SKS semi-automatic rifle.
Police said the two agents were investigating a shooting incident around 11 p.m. Sunday in the 2400 block of Boston St. in west Laredo when a suspect, Jesus Arias Jr., allegedly opened fire on their vehicle. One report said one agent was shot in the arm and shoulder, the other in the lower back, but Border Patrol officials would not confirm details.
Mike Herrera III, a spokesman for the Border Patrol's Laredo sector told WorldNetDaily the agents, whose names have not been released, were taken to Mercy Hospital locally. He said one of the agents has been released, while the other remains hospitalized in stable condition.
One source familiar with the investigation said Arias shot at the agents from behind and that the bullet holes - which numbered at least three - in their vehicle, a pick-up truck, reflect the angle of the attack.
The source said the agents may have been checking or replacing ground sensors used by the Border Patrol to detect illegal-immigrant foot traffic when the call for a shooting came in.
Juan Rivera, a public information officer with the Laredo Police Department, said Arias, 19, was arrested around 1 p.m. Monday in Laredo. Rivera said Arias is a U.S. citizen and was not in the country illegally.
The source told WorldNetDaily the weapon used to attack the agents was an SKS semi-automatic rifle with its barrel shortened and its stock replaced with a pistol grip.
It was unclear whether the overall length of the rifle was legal under Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regulations; a spokesman for the agency told WorldNetDaily rifles cannot be less than 16 inches in length.
The Border Patrol falls under the new Department of Homeland Security.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32306
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878<P>
Comments
If, for example,I cut down a .243 rifle to less than 16" barrel length
(Which is min.legal length),and then install a pistol grip or modify the existing stock into a grip,and wind up with an overall length of less than 26"(min.overall length),why is this any different than say a Savage Striker model 516SAK which has a 14" barrel and 22.5" overall? Why is one legal and the other VERY NOT?
I recently cut down a 20 ga.H+R break action.
before I did,I asked 4 different lawdogs (all friends) about the legal lengths.3 had no clue,1 "thought" it was 18"barrel,24"overall.
Anybody have a H+R 20ga.cheap so I can swap barrels and start over?
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I think mostly is because firearms are classed as either pistol (concealable) or rifle [or shotgun pretty much same category as rifle] (non-concelable) and the checks and controls for each are different, I'm not sure how different they are at the federal level, but in alot of states the controls and checks and ages for possesion of the 2 types are very different.
I recon taht they should use mines instead of "ground sensors".
When they come to get your GUNS, make sure to give them the AMMO first!!!
The solution to the problem is not a fence (which can be climbed) or any other sort of non-reactive, immobile defense. The Maginot Line showed us the wonders of that line of thinking.
We just need to increase the budget for the Border Patrol to enhance training, new hiring, and employee retention. Nothing beats a thinking man or woman on the ground.
democrips and their allies, the hate America multiculturalists, and the spineless repubs who go along with an outrageous immigration policy. There's a lot more to this, but it's after midnight and my wife is calling me from the bedroom.
Liberals... can't have a rational policy with 'em, can't shoot 'em!
Yet.
Oughtsix
BULLSEYE!!!!!
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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What about using military forces along the border down there? Rotate them through on 3 month tours use all branches.....
The way I look at it is this we have one of if not the longest peaceful border in the world with the country to the north of us (that would be Canada for those of you in the south that think PA, OH, NY, MI, RI, and the rest of them damm yankees are from another country [:D] ) but our border to the south is not peaceful it is being breched everyday both my illegal imagrants and illegal materials. I do not agree with outlawing any imagration but why not control it a whole lot more if you have the propper papers or reasons you will be allowed in legaly ( that way people can also be better helped and tracked down if there is a need to deport them)
I see the use of armed forces (military) along our borders as a much better alternative than other ideas. They will not be being used against AMERICAN civilian which I would not like to see but would be doing the job they do protecting the country form forigen threats
If force ain't work'n... Your not use'n nough of it