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The dixie chicks sang one of the most beautiful National Anthems that i had ever heard. but then i have seen some beautiful flowers growing on the edge of the sewer also. didn't make me want to go back to the sewer just to see some pretty flowers, just like i didn't want to listen to any more of their crap....
I think they should have a Bush Farewell tour. Top hit.. Na Na Na Na...Na Na Na Na... Hey Hey Hey.. Good bye.... Na Na Na Na .. Na Na Na Na... hey hey hey.... Good bye...[:o)][:o)]
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Oh for the days of musicians who didn't care to soil themselves with the politics of the day.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
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Thanks a lot, DWS. Now I'm going to have "Watchin' Scotty Grow" going through my flippin brain all night.
You OWE me, man!
Therapy ain't cheap!
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Oh for the days of musicians who didn't care to soil themselves with the politics of the day.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
Why do you always revert to the 60's like it was the only relevant era in US history when you need an example? The "me" generation in it's infantile glory,the only real significance being the time when the loonies began taking over the loony farm.When before in our history did some burned out highschool drop out recieve social merit simply because he looked good in tight leather and exposed himself in public while croaking out banal tripe. If not for that you could toss the whole decade in some cosmic toilet and I'd be the first to pull the handle. As to the question, except for the promoting of buying bonds, the Glenn Miller's and Benny Goodman's of the 40's never much wasted any time with the press.Even with the rise of so called folk music as a social voice for change, it was just that...music with a message. Not some musician using the stage as a political forum where no rebuttal is possible.
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
bigdaddy;
I guess I didn't read that from DWS' post.
What I read was that musicians have always used their medium to protest.
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
bigdaddy;
I guess I didn't read that from DWS' post.
What I read was that musicians have always used their medium to protest.
Medium hell, they use high. Don
I mean "medium" as in..."anything well done is rare"
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Don't be ridiculous, nothing whatever was said during the entire disco period, no art was created and surely even the BGs were not proud of themselves.
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Hey Sheepy, I actually met and spoke with Peety when I was 10! Nice guy, I think he is/was a Unitarian.[:)]
Originally posted by DancesWithSheep quote:Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Why is it I continue to agree with DWS on most everything?[:o)]
quote:Originally posted by boeboe
Originally posted by DancesWithSheep quote:Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Why is it I continue to agree with DWS on most everything?[:o)]
If it had been Corporal Wajinski singing the "Ballad of the Lonesome Marine" he'd be tearing up everytime he hummed it in his out of pitch warble. And the reference to suffering through Bobby Goldsboro and the Singing Sarge as well as using Seeger as a reference point all point to an obsession with the sixties. Could have used Woody Guthrie as a reference, but everytime he says Woody we end up on a tangent towards sphincter musculature, yet another obsession no doubt closely related to the carefree sex and free love days of yore.
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
If it had been Corporal Wajinski singing the "Ballad of the Lonesome Marine" he'd be tearing up everytime he hummed it in his out of pitch warble. And the reference to suffering through Bobby Goldsboro and the Singing Sarge as well as using Seeger as a reference point all point to an obsession with the sixties. Could have used Woody Guthrie as a reference, but everytime he says Woody we end up on a tangent towards sphincter musculature, yet another obsession no doubt closely related to the carefree sex and free love days of yore.
Frankly, I found the 60's embarrassing, not only for me personally, but for my generation in general. I suffered the twin cliches of Vietnam and Berkeley, each with its own personas and parlance, but cliches nonetheless, for which I never felt defined by and certainly was never obsessed with; to this day, hearing "The Ballad of the Green Berets" or "Light My Fire" makes me wince and wish I was either ten years older or ten years younger.
dixie chick will have a hard time filling the restroom at a dukes lacrosse party. They suck in all the wrong ways if you have a voice for singing then sing keep your trap shut and bake a pie for your poor little love starved roadies....
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i find it funny how "freedom of speech" really sucks when it is something you do not agree with
now if they said Clinton sucked
Just do a forum search for "Ted Nugent" or "Toby Keith", this forum is filled with hypocrites who have no problem with "musicians expressing their political views" as long as they agree with those views.
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i find it funny how "freedom of speech" really sucks when it is something you do not agree with
now if they said Clinton sucked
I don't see anyone here disagreeing with freedom of speech. People have the right to say anything they want, but should expect to pay the price if it's offensive to others.
They chose to seriously offend the very audience they'd spent years cultivating and now talk trash because these fans dropped them.
They were giving away CD's on the radio today. people had the choice of a Dixie Chick or Reba. Not both as they said the Dixie Chicks said you can not have a Reba CD if you have one of theirs.
You don't tug on Superman's cape. You don't spit in the wind. You don't pull the mask from the ol' Lone Ranger. And, you don't make complete * of yourselves by needlessly dissing a true country icon and legend like Reba McEntire to feign the goofy notion that you're enlightened music mavericks. Long after the Dixie Chicks' feathers fall out, leaving them to look much like your garden variety of old buzzards, Reba will age gracefully, no doubt become the Grande Dame of Country Music and continue to entertain audiences all over the world. True quality endures.
Last night on the Country music awards. Reba said "I don't know why I was so nervous to host this. If the Dixie Chicks can sing with their foot in their mouths then I can sure host this sucker![}:)].
You guys who worry about the chicks are probably watching American Idoltonight. Who gives a smit what one of the airheads says? I'm sure they are well-versed in politics--or brain surgery, etc, etc.[:p]
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Oh for the days of musicians who didn't care to soil themselves with the politics of the day.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
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Thanks a lot, DWS. Now I'm going to have "Watchin' Scotty Grow" going through my flippin brain all night.
You OWE me, man!
Therapy ain't cheap!
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Oh for the days of musicians who didn't care to soil themselves with the politics of the day.
When the hell was that? For about a week during Disco??? Musicians have always had something to say about the politics of the day, and way before Pete Seeger. Too many here confuse their dislike of the music with their dislike of the musician. Well, ain't that just too friggin' bad. I had to listen to Barry Sadler and Bobby Goldsboro; now it's your turn.
Why do you always revert to the 60's like it was the only relevant era in US history when you need an example? The "me" generation in it's infantile glory,the only real significance being the time when the loonies began taking over the loony farm.When before in our history did some burned out highschool drop out recieve social merit simply because he looked good in tight leather and exposed himself in public while croaking out banal tripe. If not for that you could toss the whole decade in some cosmic toilet and I'd be the first to pull the handle. As to the question, except for the promoting of buying bonds, the Glenn Miller's and Benny Goodman's of the 40's never much wasted any time with the press.Even with the rise of so called folk music as a social voice for change, it was just that...music with a message. Not some musician using the stage as a political forum where no rebuttal is possible.
I guess I didn't read that from DWS' post.
What I read was that musicians have always used their medium to protest.
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
BDJ, as Neal Boortz says, it's the 'Dumb Masses.'
Say that fast, lol.
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
I can dig it.
bigdaddy;
I guess I didn't read that from DWS' post.
What I read was that musicians have always used their medium to protest.
Medium hell, they use high. Don
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
bigdaddy;
I guess I didn't read that from DWS' post.
What I read was that musicians have always used their medium to protest.
Medium hell, they use high. Don
I mean "medium" as in..."anything well done is rare"
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
atleast we can agree on that
Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
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Next you'll be bagging on "Puff, the Magic Dragon"
Don't be ridiculous, nothing whatever was said during the entire disco period, no art was created and surely even the BGs were not proud of themselves.
And that, gentlemen was the problem.
With that, I must bid y'all a fond 'bon soir'
Supremes rule...
I am thinking more like the "Go Go's"[8D] myself, or how about Ann and Nancy Wilson's "Heart"[:D]
For that matter have you forgotten about "Wilson Phillips"?[:0]
quote:Originally posted by bigdaddyjunior
Maybe I wasn't too clear on my statement preceding his about the musicians being political. I meant using the idol status afforded by the mindless masses to promote a political message rather than a social or political message made with the songs themselves. The former I believe is beyond the scope of 'artist' while the latter is the essence of art.
Not only were you not clear, you didn't say it. I say "way before Pete Seeger", and you ask "Why do you always revert to the 60's?". Huh? Have you moved up to a better bong or something? Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Hey Sheepy, I actually met and spoke with Peety when I was 10! Nice guy, I think he is/was a Unitarian.[:)]
quote:Click here for the entire cover story on TimeAllen, either your web lacky or editor needs to spend more times with your posts. [;)]
Why is it I continue to agree with DWS on most everything?[:o)]
Originally posted by DancesWithSheep quote:Oh, and The Ballad of the Green Berets and Eve of Destruction--yup, they were "the essence of art" all right.
Why is it I continue to agree with DWS on most everything?[:o)]
If it had been Corporal Wajinski singing the "Ballad of the Lonesome Marine" he'd be tearing up everytime he hummed it in his out of pitch warble. And the reference to suffering through Bobby Goldsboro and the Singing Sarge as well as using Seeger as a reference point all point to an obsession with the sixties. Could have used Woody Guthrie as a reference, but everytime he says Woody we end up on a tangent towards sphincter musculature, yet another obsession no doubt closely related to the carefree sex and free love days of yore.
If it had been Corporal Wajinski singing the "Ballad of the Lonesome Marine" he'd be tearing up everytime he hummed it in his out of pitch warble. And the reference to suffering through Bobby Goldsboro and the Singing Sarge as well as using Seeger as a reference point all point to an obsession with the sixties. Could have used Woody Guthrie as a reference, but everytime he says Woody we end up on a tangent towards sphincter musculature, yet another obsession no doubt closely related to the carefree sex and free love days of yore.
Frankly, I found the 60's embarrassing, not only for me personally, but for my generation in general. I suffered the twin cliches of Vietnam and Berkeley, each with its own personas and parlance, but cliches nonetheless, for which I never felt defined by and certainly was never obsessed with; to this day, hearing "The Ballad of the Green Berets" or "Light My Fire" makes me wince and wish I was either ten years older or ten years younger.
now if they said Clinton sucked
Ummm...'cuz ya like ta dance?...[:X]
"What's goin on"...[;)]
i find it funny how "freedom of speech" really sucks when it is something you do not agree with
now if they said Clinton sucked
Just do a forum search for "Ted Nugent" or "Toby Keith", this forum is filled with hypocrites who have no problem with "musicians expressing their political views" as long as they agree with those views.
i find it funny how "freedom of speech" really sucks when it is something you do not agree with
now if they said Clinton sucked
They woulda bin right.[:D]
i find it funny how "freedom of speech" really sucks when it is something you do not agree with
now if they said Clinton sucked
I don't see anyone here disagreeing with freedom of speech. People have the right to say anything they want, but should expect to pay the price if it's offensive to others.
They chose to seriously offend the very audience they'd spent years cultivating and now talk trash because these fans dropped them.
They aren't "courageous", they're whiners.
Clouder..