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7.62x397.62x39 Member Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
...USA sucks, all my social securtiy is going to get tooken away, that means no retirement.
Im going to be a minority
There is going to be a revelution.
But what really ticks me off it the fact the the * in the gov't are being so nice to the illegals.
Giving them social security, they don't deserve it, that means i'm going to have to work till im like 80 and then die.
I'm hoping for a revelution...
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You been drinking with ky again?
    [:D]
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,026 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    You been drinking with ky again?
    [:D]
    Don


    drinking the ky again. Don
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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    7.62x39/gunzforever quote:...USA sucks, all my social securtiy is going to get tooken away, that means no retirement.
    Im going to be a minority
    There is going to be a revelution.
    But what really ticks me off it the fact the the * in the gov't are being so nice to the illegals.
    Giving them social security, they don't deserve it, that means i'm going to have to work till im like 80 and then die.
    I'm hoping for a revelution...

    ...forget retirement...with grammar like that, your probably doomed to Taco Paco or some such place, & I don't think changing jobs once a week builds towards your retiremnet, much...[:D]



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  • 7.62x397.62x39 Member Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    its a rough draft, plus I just want to get the point across
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  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39
    ...USA sucks, all my social securtiy is going to get tooken away, that means no retirement.
    Im going to be a minority
    There is going to be a revelution.
    But what really ticks me off it the fact the the * in the gov't are being so nice to the illegals.
    Giving them social security, they don't deserve it, that means i'm going to have to work till im like 80 and then die.
    I'm hoping for a revelution...
    I wouldn't worry about it to much scooter, I have a hunch Darwin's theory is going to take care of you well before you turn "Like 80".
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  • jimkanejimkane Member Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well, where would you rather be?
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  • dlrjjdlrjj Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "I'm" spelled wrong three different ways in one post? I'm not the spelling police, but that's a little much.[:(]
    Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is an art form.
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  • PointerPointer Member Posts: 939 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    USA doesnt suck,the goverment sucks.Hey,he should be pissed,we pay into it all our lives and the retirement age is gonna go higher, or it wont be there at all.I feel sorry for anyone under 40 because there gonna get screwed big time.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    You been drinking with ky again?
    [:D]
    Don


    drinking the ky again. Don

    Before or after the boones farm?
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    [:D][:D]Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • KYfatboyKYfatboy Member Posts: 859 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pathetic sheeple, can't see the truth in front of your faces.
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  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
    "I'm" spelled wrong three different ways in one post? I'm not the spelling police, but that's a little much.[:(]


    Hey, to be fair, he DID get it right once! [:D]
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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Hey maybe you will get lucky and die in the revolution...no need to worry about SSI.[:D]
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  • JesseLeeJesseLee Member Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I say write to your Senator, Congressman, and the President about your feelings. Perhaps if enough of us do this it might get some positive attention. If this does not work then there is the alternative
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  • MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    In 20 year new york will be ocean, LA will have droped into the ocean and in 2 years new orleans will disapear the way i see it there wont be as many people to support just give it time.
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  • DarkStar11DarkStar11 Member Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of giving SSI to illegal aliens, but it wasn't meant to be a retirement program for citizens, either. It is assistance. Being a gov't program, its going to be screwed up -- and you want to trust the gov't to provide for you in your old age?

    Based on your posts, you are young. Work and invest and plan for your later years. You don't have the excuse of "I didn't know" -- the reality is in your face now. Don't expect a fat government teat to suckle on when you're 67.
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  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    you're social security is "going to get tooken away?" I don't know what the hell that is, but it sure does sound bad.[:)][:)][:p]
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  • FrogbertFrogbert Member Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DarkStar11
    Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of giving SSI to illegal aliens, but it wasn't meant to be a retirement program for citizens, either. It is assistance. Being a gov't program, its going to be screwed up -- and you want to trust the gov't to provide for you in your old age?

    Based on your posts, you are young. Work and invest and plan for your later years. You don't have the excuse of "I didn't know" -- the reality is in your face now. Don't expect a fat government teat to suckle on when you're 67.


    I agree that it is way better to be independent, but I wish to very politely make one point: The Social Security Trust Fund was never supposed to be government money.
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  • DarkStar11DarkStar11 Member Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Frogbert
    quote:Originally posted by DarkStar11
    Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of giving SSI to illegal aliens, but it wasn't meant to be a retirement program for citizens, either. It is assistance. Being a gov't program, its going to be screwed up -- and you want to trust the gov't to provide for you in your old age?

    Based on your posts, you are young. Work and invest and plan for your later years. You don't have the excuse of "I didn't know" -- the reality is in your face now. Don't expect a fat government teat to suckle on when you're 67.


    I agree that it is way better to be independent, but I wish to very politely make one point: The Social Security Trust Fund was never supposed to be government money.


    Agreed, it turned from "the gov't saving your money for you to help out when you retire" to a new tax that the contributors will never see the return on their dollar from. My point (and perhaps I am very wrong) is that the notion of SSI providing complete -- or anything above and beyond mere supplementary -- retirement income, is so long gone that anyone born after 1970 at a minimum ought to know better and should be planning accordingly.
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  • FrogbertFrogbert Member Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Agreed.
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  • DarkStar11DarkStar11 Member Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I also question, given the state of SSI (and the US), whether we should continue to pay out SSI to folks old enough to qualify but that continue to earn over a set amount yearly (like $500k) or who have assets exceeding a set amount of money (i.e., $2.5M+). Granted, this smacks the whole "I paid into it and it's my money" idea in the face, but . . .
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  • Glock23ExpertGlock23Expert Member Posts: 1,031 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Forget about SS and start taking steps today to secure your financial future, kid. It shouldn't be too difficult to realize how all-important that is. When the people rely on government handouts and assistance all the time, government just gets bigger and more intrusive. When the people become more self-reliant, government doesn't need to be as big and chock full of social programs.
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  • kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
    "I'm" spelled wrong three different ways in one post? I'm not the spelling police, but that's a little much.[:(]


    You college boys just don't have the proper level of respect for a real American who is just out to help us. I'll bet if your degree was tooken away you would not be so uppity! I'll also bet you are not planning your retirement around Social Security [;)].
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,083 ******
    edited November -1
    There will be no revolution. Changes in our society occur so incrementally that most of us just accept them. Those with the cojones to pull off a revolution are so few and so poorly equipped and organized that they would quickly be put down and dismissed as right-wing/religious/white separatist nuts.

    I have counseled my sons, and would counsel any young person, SET UP YOUR OWN IRA!!! And put the maximum money in every year. Just do it, and get accustomed to living on less. Do it even if you have a plan through your employer. I wish someone had counseled me to do that a long time ago. I would be retired now.

    As it is, I have a pretty good retirement plan, and am not counting on Social Security. If SS kicks in, that is just gravy, but I don't depend on it.

    I really believe that you will have to plan for and work out your own retirement income if you want to have any.
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  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The one advantage to being in poor health is that you don't have to worry about retirement accounts or Social Security.
    ....................................................................................................
    Too old to live...too young to die...
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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    kristov quote:You college boys just don't have the proper level of respect for a real American who is just out to help us. I'll bet if your degree was tooken away you would not be so uppity! I'll also bet you are not planning your retirement around Social Security .

    ...w-h-a-t?...it MIGHT have been a BIG MISTAKE to have planned my retirement around SS??..well I, I mean, I, I just never would have thunk that...who CAN'T retire on $1,000 SS a month, why, live in "da lap of lux-your-ee"...[:D]

    7.62x39/gunzforever quote:its a rough draft,
    ...son, Ive seen 40 miles of bottom road smoother than your "rough draft"...[8D]

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  • Red223Red223 Member Posts: 7,946
    edited November -1
    Why can't we sue the US Govt. for taking social security premiums from our paychecks when they know damn well we ain't going to get a penny of it?

    What if only 500,000 Americans were on that case as plaintiffs vs the US?

    We need to atleast screw the baby boomers over if we are going to get the shaft.
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  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
    "I'm" spelled wrong three different ways in one post? I'm not the spelling police, but that's a little much.[:(]


    Kristov is becoming one of my favorite posters. Lucid and funny he is!

    Gang, I think this post is an excellent opportunity to understand the mindset of segment of society that is feeling a bit put out. KY, Red, 7.62 among others are expressing thier dissatisfaction at a situation that they feel is unjust. Heck, I feel it's unjust. While I may approach the expression of my lack of faith in the system in a different way, I certainly do applaud the passion that many people here feel about the problems.

    I reckon that while we may be in a barrel of crap about some things, we still have the opportunity to buy boots and airfreshner to make it more bearable.

    Many countries do not.

    I'll stick it out here. My people have always managed to make do and survive. So will I.

    You college boys just don't have the proper level of respect for a real American who is just out to help us. I'll bet if your degree was tooken away you would not be so uppity! I'll also bet you are not planning your retirement around Social Security [;)].
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I also question, given the state of SSI (and the US), whether we should continue to pay out SSI to folks old enough to qualify but that continue to earn over a set amount yearly (like $500k) or who have assets exceeding a set amount of money (i.e., $2.5M+). Granted, this smacks the whole "I paid into it and it's my money" idea in the face, but

    I believe there are already limits much lower than you cite on earnings impacting your SSI benefits. As far as I paid into it and it is my money, it does not work that way. The very earliest people to retire under SSI had paid very little into Social Security so they were paid not with their money like your IRA or 401K or 457K pays you, but rather they with money then coming in. Thus, you and I will be paid with your children's contribution (I had no children, so thinks for your children's support!) The baby boomers start drewing SS in two years and that is going to create a major groan because the generations behind the boomers are smaller than the boomer generation.
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  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,914 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...not too mention the poor shape of gov't schools!
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  • IAMACLONE_2IAMACLONE_2 Member Posts: 4,725
    edited November -1
    I just want the "KISS" first.
    Cause we already being raped!!!!

    If the governments lips are moving, its lying.

    The government does not give a damm about you, and never has.

    Just bend over and send them your money, thats all that they ever wanted anyway.
    Walte
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  • 7.62x397.62x39 Member Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    witch i'm in...
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  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    quote:nunn:
    I have counseled my sons, and would counsel any young person, SET UP YOUR OWN IRA!!!

    My dad was a self made millionaire, as well as an aeronautical
    engineer.

    He swore by the Rule Of 15%. For each, and every, dollar you earn,
    hold out 15?. I started to practice that when I was hired by a
    family friend to help paint apartment houses at 15 years old.

    I retired very comfortably at 55 - six years ago. I made some
    very good investments with my Rule Of 15% money in the 80's.

    Couldn't have done it without dear ole dad's advice! Like most
    of his advice, it worked[:D]
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  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,914 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can tell!
    quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39
    witch i'm in...
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  • jimbowbyjimbowby Member Posts: 3,496
    edited November -1
    [8D]--I retired at 50 yrs 7 mo in 1993 and Im not to concerned about SS-Like Zip. I invested (still do) and I don't draw anything thats taxable YET.--[:o)][:o)]--JIMBO
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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    tsavo quote: I can tell!



    [:D][:D][8D][:0][:D]




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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Red223
    Why can't we sue the US Govt. for taking social security premiums from our paychecks when they know damn well we ain't going to get a penny of it?

    What if only 500,000 Americans were on that case as plaintiffs vs the US?

    We need to atleast screw the baby boomers over if we are going to get the shaft.


    Why can't we cut off everybody that chooses to live outside of the US (50 states) from ALL govt funding? We can start by cutting the whiners and slackers off from from the Gove nipple.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's It! I thought this was going to be your swan song.
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  • mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by IAMACLONE_2
    I just want the "KISS" first.
    Cause we already being raped!!!!

    If the governments lips are moving, its lying.

    The government does not give a damm about you, and never has.

    Just bend over and send them your money, thats all that they ever wanted anyway.
    Walte





    i'll second that !![;)]
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  • dlrjjdlrjj Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
    "I'm" spelled wrong three different ways in one post? I'm not the spelling police, but that's a little much.[:(]


    You college boys just don't have the proper level of respect for a real American who is just out to help us. I'll bet if your degree was tooken away you would not be so uppity! I'll also bet you are not planning your retirement around Social Security [;)].

    You're right about not counting on Social Security. I will collect some in a few years, but I'm not sitting up nights waiting. I cannot remember a time when we did not invest at least 25% of our income in something that had a potential for a profit. It made for some lean years when we were starting out, but it sure made it easier to write the checks for the kid's college when the time came to set up the next generation, and it let me retire to the farm when the last kid headed for school.[:)]
    Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is an art form.
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  • DarkStar11DarkStar11 Member Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog

    I believe there are already limits much lower than you cite on earnings impacting your SSI benefits.

    Really? Well, I'm glad to hear it. Its a ways off for me, and I plan on it not being there, so I haven't kept up with it. About 16 years ago, my boss was a multi-millionaire and was receiving SSI. Loopholes maybe? Or change in laws since then?
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