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Guns - Shoot 'em all?
ElMuertoMonkey
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Okay, question/opinion time.
Do you believe all guns are made to be shot? For example, let's say you got your hands on something rare (like a SPAS-15 or a FAMAS) for your collection.
So here you have a gun that's in pristine shape, never-been-fired, and is likely worth more than your car (I know the above firearms would be in my case)... would you take it to the range and shoot it?
Or, in your opinion, are some guns just meant to be looked at?
I don't have a position either way. Truthfully, if I got my hands on a FAMAS (yes, I really want one... can't afford one, but really want one), I'd take it to the range and see how well it fired.
But I also have a S&W Model 10, unfired, pristine, from the 1960's (even came with the original price tag on it... sixty bucks!) that I have no desire to fire as that would "ruin" it.
What are your opinions on the matter?
Do you believe all guns are made to be shot? For example, let's say you got your hands on something rare (like a SPAS-15 or a FAMAS) for your collection.
So here you have a gun that's in pristine shape, never-been-fired, and is likely worth more than your car (I know the above firearms would be in my case)... would you take it to the range and shoot it?
Or, in your opinion, are some guns just meant to be looked at?
I don't have a position either way. Truthfully, if I got my hands on a FAMAS (yes, I really want one... can't afford one, but really want one), I'd take it to the range and see how well it fired.
But I also have a S&W Model 10, unfired, pristine, from the 1960's (even came with the original price tag on it... sixty bucks!) that I have no desire to fire as that would "ruin" it.
What are your opinions on the matter?
Comments
IMHO, life is too short to own guns you can't shoot!
G36
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I once bought off a friend a NIB Series 70 colt government model ( a few years ago) and took it to the local indoor range.
Showed it to the owner and he about had a fit that I was gonna shoot it. I just smiled and proceeded to put 500rnds through it.
Kept it for 4 years and put about another 2000 rnds down the pipe, even used it as a CCW piece for a spell and when I sold it I got more than I paid for it[:D][^]
A gun is a tool, nothing more to me. I know that some "high dollar" guns are meant to be display pieces but if I wanted a gun I couldnt shoot I would buy replicas.
JuJu(just my opinion, yours may vary)
If a collectable gun has been fired and I buy it for a collectable piece, I will usually fire it a couple times before I clean and put away.
If I buy a collectable that has not been fired, I will for the most part leave it in that condition.
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I don't care of it's a One-and-only eddition - it's going to get shot.
I don't buy Limited Editions, Special Editions or similar to collect them.
I buy them to handle, operate and useage.
Just checked up with the police today, because the importer/distributor says that the SPAS-15 needs a special permit to be sold to civilians here in Denmark.
That, as far as I hear it, it's no trouble at all - so for about 1800.US$ - I could be the lucky owner of an Out-of-the-factory brand-new SPAS-15. =o_
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.
However,in some cases,like your S&W,it's better to keep one unfired for obvious reasons(Value comes to mind.)I only have one NIB gun.A 10/22,stainless,laminated international stock from Wally World(don't laugh).Caught it on closeout for $135.Don't need to shoot it since I've got a couple dozen .22's already including three other 10/22's.I figure the value will continue to rise(Not enough to send a kid to college though)and I can always sell it later and make a little money on it or maybe wind up givin' it to a Grandchild or somethin'.
BW
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
I've personally held a 1st Gen. Colt Single Action Army that was so new the cylinder had not even been turned on it. When I first saw it, I thought it was a brand new 3rd Gen. I damn near dropped it when the owner (grandfather of a friend) told me.
Amazing gun, but I could never own it (even if I could afford it).
Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Liberals....
John
"I play them, and cherish them."
"This one, is the prize of my collection, I have never played it."
"You have never played this one?"
"Dont touch it!"
"I didnt touch it, I was just pointing at it."
"Well, dont point at it!"
"Well can I at least look at it?"
"Youve seen enough of that one."
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-Jimmy the cheese man
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Over 1/2 of them are safe queens.
3 have risen slightly in prices while most of the others have trippled, still NIB.
If you buy right and hold on to them for 4-5 years, especially in todays politcal climate, your going to make $.
But if you make money on them, you have to re-invest in something a lil more exotic.
walte
But if you make money on them, you have to re-invest in something a lil more exotic.
I almost agree with you except for one thing.
Whats to stop the government (just like in CA did with SKS) from changing the law to where you cant even own or transfer a titled weapon and they wont pay you didley for it.
Nope, for me trying to have firearm as an "investment" is way to risky.
Just my own personal opinion mind you and not a flame.
JuJu(who thinks its a mute issue with him anyway cause he cant afford those types of weapons)
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
Second I vote republican, also more so pro-gun than the Demorats
Third- In the US there are over 5 million assualt weapons in the hands of the public, in pro gun states.
I'm very doubtfully the federal goverment, will out right confinscate any of them.
But more than likely will create a sub class in the NFA registery for these particular weapons, which will be bought and sold, same as the machine guns from the NFA act of 1934.
Walte
Then I realizd that everything is fired before it leaves the factory, and it's a perfect little skeet gun.[:D]
Now everything I have is (or will be) shot. My new theory is that I don't have any business owning a gun that I can't shoot (un-safe exempted, of course).
O Lord,
grant me the Serenity
to accept the things
I cannot change
the courage to change the things I can,
and the supreme firepower to make the difference.
R/
Dave
How different the world would be if we could consult the veteran instead of the politician. - Henry Miller
Very few guns are not test fired, so the myth of a never fired gun is mostly a false one. If I own it, I'm going to fire it. Maybe just a few times, but I am going to fire the gun![;)]
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I nod agreement.
Or, "Buying a great gun and not shooting it is like marrying a beautiful woman but never consumating it."
"Hmm," I say.
But truth is, I have several I've never shot, some of which will make you laugh. My German Luger, P-38, 12-gauge Mossberg Jungle Sweeper, 12-gauge 870 combat-fitted shotgun, and some others. There are others I just haven't gotten around to, yet.
I've traded in a few, still unfired. Question: How much does that raise the trade-in value? Or does only the next dealer benefit from virgin condition (outside of factory proof-rounds)?
Attn. Walte..."Assault Rifles" (ie. full auto)are already covered under the NFA. If you're speaking of the cosmetic "assault WEAPONS" I seriously doubt that another AWB will get through anytime soon.
Mudge the confident
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If you take into account inflation, I'm sure there are many guns that are going to appreciate. Those that do are rare collectors pieces, whose value is determined by the number of collectors who want to pay a premium for them. If the number os people interested in guns declines, the potential value of guns will decline. The last great generation of gun owners (WWII vets) is going to pass on within the next twenty years, the baby boomers (my generation) were not that into guns, neither are their kids(my sone loves guns but most of his friends are into video games). I think its debatable as to whether the "gun culture" that liberals are so fond of describing is not an endangered species. Not that I'm not doing my part to keep the next generation flourishing, I just see fewer people carrying on the tradition.
You need to attend the Tulsa gunshow. It would restore your faith in the gun culture people. I saw a lot of young people there standing in line at the ATMs.[:D]
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Whenever I see a cow eat grass, I am reminded that "This too shall pass."............ Baxter Black
I have two different Norinco folders NIB w/ accessories that have only been test fired because I may sell them. The Side Folder is only one number away from my Army S/N so it's going to be hard. They were bought in the early '80s. If the Side Folder were in 223 instead of 7.62 I'd be inclined to keep and shoot it and sell off the 223 Underfolder.