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Who was the worst prez?
alledan
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There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... in the fair city of Detroit (Michigan) there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's one American city folks, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq!
Worst president in history ?
The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.
Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.
Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.
FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.
John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.
Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 800 soldiers, an average of 400 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.
Worst president in history? Come on!
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Worst president in history ?
The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.
Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.
Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.
FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. >From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.
John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.
Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. >From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 800 soldiers, an average of 400 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.
Worst president in history? Come on!
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE.....Benjamin Franklin ...1759
Clinton,,,
50 something, MARRIED man, letting a teenage girl suck on his 'special purpose', again and again and again in the oval office.
Then he is so arrogant, he lies to us about it,,again and again..
His wife is still ,married to him,,,she will be president someday,,,sheesh,,,it's the end of the world as we know it,,,
,,,[V]sod
Vietnam
Great Society
Silver (real) money ended
Between his fiascos internationally and his domestic blunders, was anyone surprised he didn't run again?
His programs are still costing us money.
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She was only a fisherman's daughter,
But when she saw my rod she reeled.
NOT because of the slavery thing, but because he was the first to establish that the government can and will control us, using whatever means necessary.
Bill Clinton did the most damage to the office of the President, which in turn damaged and lowered our standing in the world community.
Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Liberals....
As we all see today that there really isn't any relationship between the government and the contitution.
I'll cast my vote for Teddy Roosevelt!
A romatic figure, sportsman and gun enthusiast he was, but I don't understand how the nation sat still and allowed him to STEAL the National Parks and National Forest lands from the states.
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referring to the M1 Garand
There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.
Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.
You have no idea how emberassing it is to try to defend a President you do not believe in when you are in a foreign country, and they are using Clinton as the punchline of a joke. I truly wanted to crawl under the edge of a table.
NSDQ!
"The Lord knows the way I take, and when He has tested me, I shall come forth as gold" JOB 23:10
J. Patrick Tatum
What the man said!!!!!
JuJu(agreeing wholeheartedly)
And I would put George somewhere in the "worst five".
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
Love them Beavers
2. FDR---gave us socialism that continues to grow even today.
3. William Jefferson Clinton--devastating blow (no pun intended) to morality of our country
4. Carter--the one who preached that mediocrity was a virtue.
5. LBJ--Devesated our national will to fight to win when we engage in war.
Now you guys are going to make me go and change my signature. I just liked the quote, but it is certainly true of the senseless death, destruction and crushing of liberities, Lincoln did his share. Given what happened at the time, I am curious of what he could have done different (justifying it with abolition of slavery was sold to us in grade school, but we all know better) Never has a president been faced with a more difficult decision -- to make war on your own countrymen or to let the country divide into two either or which alone would never have amounted to much more than GB or France.
Carter -- smartest, that is book smart president we will ever have. No sense of the evil in the world.
Slick Willy Clinton -- fooled an entire nation. Worst example of a leader our children and nation will ever see.
Teddy Roosevelt is a character hero of mine, but the entire forest service which is an illigitimate child offspring of what he started is an ugly mutant of the original purpose.
There were lots of bad ones. Some of the bad ones even did some good things.
Best? I am still waiting.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln
Given what happened at the time, I am curious of what he could have done different (justifying it with abolition of slavery was sold to us in grade school, but we all know better) Never has a president been faced with a more difficult decision -- to make war on your own countrymen or to let the country divide into two either or which alone would never have amounted to much more than GB or France.
Well, he could have started off by actually reading the constitution.If he did that, he would have realized that the states had the constitutional right to leave if theywanted to.
If that didnt work, he could have found a copy of the declaration of independence, and read it, IN ITS ENIRETY, instead of only reading the "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL" partial sentence that he recited ad nauseum. If he read just a couple of more lines, he would not have thought it proper to deny people the right that the founders thought most important.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds"
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
This is an easy one! My vote goes to ole Dumbya himself. In 2 0r 3 yrs after the effects have began to wear off all will see the illeteracy and diversions that this presidency carried w/it!
I think we're already starting to see the illiteracy take effect.
Carter -- smartest, that is book smart president we will ever have. No sense of the evil in the world.
Best? I am still waiting.
Carter was also quite probably the most decent man to occupy the office. Too bad book smarts & decency don't add up to competence.
Best is much easier. We started off with the best & it's been downhill ever since. When I was younger that was taken for a given but the PC crowd has been busy since then.
Washington could have been king & turned it down. Could have stayed as long as he wanted but left after eight years. Had no president to go by & did a bang-up job. Took a bankrupt nation & set us on the road to fiscal resposibility that pretty much lasted (with some obvious exceptions) until George the Lesser. The sad part is we failed to pay much attention to his Fairwell Address when he warned us to mind our own bussiness.
I agree that "cannot tell a lie" GW was the best, but that he could have been king is just proof that people back then were, as a whole, just as foolish as they are today. At least we have some time between when we fought off oppression and when we voted more of it into office. Back then, they had no excuse!
One thing to keep in mind is that every profession has a core skill without which you cannot succeed in that field. In engineering, it's a structured imagination. In law enforcement, it's reading people and acting on your read instantaneously. In politics, it's lying. No matter how good a man is, if he is in office he told some lies on the way there.
how about the only president in our nations history to have never done military service of any kind...
i am sure we can make a historical case for graft, corruption, and moral failings among several past presidents, but slick willie wins hands down.
lying under oath, parsing the definition of "IS", bimbo eruptions (sure JFK had a lot of affairs, but at least his indescretions were attractive and high class, not trailer trash pigs and under age fat interns), whitewater, drug use, draft dodging, protesting against our military while in a foriegn country, not taking custody of OSAMA when offered on a silver platter, etc...
while many dislike GWB II, and disagree with his policies and decisions, you cannot compare him to WILLIE.
best regards, mike.
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Greg
Former Marine
A N G L I C O
Since I have been studying Greek lately, I'll give a more direct translation of the Thermopylae Monument: "Stranger, tell the Lakedaemonians that in agreement with their customs, we lie here."
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
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A close second would be a tie between Warren Harding ,Bill Clinton and LBJ.
Best....not really anyone I can say was the best but Reagan was pretty good.
Most interesting for sure is Nixon. I love to read about him. Wish I could have met him.
Jon