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2000 Ford ... Update on truck shopping adventure
jpwolf
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We are going to get a diesel tomorrow. Found a haldf dozen that fit the bill online. One GMC, the rest were Ford's
This one caught my eye and you guys said a 7.3 on the fords was okay and anything under 200k, right? See what ya think... it may or may not be the one...
http://www.elwaydealers.com/vehicle/pre-owned/164893-1FTSW31F9YED62497/2000-Ford-Super_Duty_F_350_SRW.htm
This one caught my eye and you guys said a 7.3 on the fords was okay and anything under 200k, right? See what ya think... it may or may not be the one...
http://www.elwaydealers.com/vehicle/pre-owned/164893-1FTSW31F9YED62497/2000-Ford-Super_Duty_F_350_SRW.htm
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That is a good truck but is a little high on the price. My 99 f250 diesel with 350,000 is still running strong. With 183,000 on the motor there should have been a injector change out done. If it hasn't been done it will cost you at least 2400.00 to do. My milage went from 14 mpg to 22 with new injectors.
Thank you I will make sure!
ive been hankering for a great big giant diesel pickup for like 9 months. ive looked on ebay, thatguyslist, all over the net on nearly a daily basis. thats a 10k dollar truck all day long. 12k for a manual trans, or 50k less miles, and ive seen them go for that with the dual rear axle.
We'll see what they offer on my trade.
So you guys think they are exxagerating the KBB just a tad?
We'll see what they offer on my trade.
Here is one to compare it with. You are paying for the low miles on this one.
http://trucks.gibsontruckworld.com/gibson_truck_world_sanford_fl/details/1999-Ford-F-250-Lariat-Crew-Cab-73L-Powerstroke-Diesel-2WD/1FTNW20F7XEB39835/
Mileage: 183301
Engine: V8 7.3l
Transmission: Automatic
Drive train: 4WD
Ext Color: Dark Toreador Red Metallic
Int Color: Medium Graphite
Body Style: Crew Cab Pickup
along with the list of options like a Sliding Rear Window, a Single Cd Player Premium Electronic Am/fm Stereo Radio W/cassette and a 6-Way Pwr Driver Seat.
Take that information and call the dealer. Act like you have that truck to trade in and ask if they will give you an estimated trade in value.
If they quote you say (for example) $7000.00.
While the John Elway asking price for the same exact truck sitting on his lot is $12,481.
Confront them on it rather loudly. Raise enough cane over the price difference and they will do anything to get you out of their dealership.
Saved my brother a few grand on a Ford truck that way.
He was told his trade in was worth $13,500. Their asking price for the same truck was $21,000. He left the dealer with the truck for $15,000.
Go to this link and put in all of the information on the truck that you are interested in. And see what THEY are willing to PAY YOU for a truck sitting on their lot.
http://www.elwaydealers.com/appraise.php
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
So you guys think they are exxagerating the KBB just a tad?
We'll see what they offer on my trade.
Here is one to compare it with. You are paying for the low miles on this one.
http://trucks.gibsontruckworld.com/gibson_truck_world_sanford_fl/details/1999-Ford-F-250-Lariat-Crew-Cab-73L-Powerstroke-Diesel-2WD/1FTNW20F7XEB39835/
one is 4wd the other is 2wd....big value difference there, I'd say $3k-4k
With Diesel past $4 a gal, I wouldn't be shopping for a diesel right now unless I NEEDED it. A private party sale would save you a bunch, and the values are going to depreciate as diesel nears $5/gal which is far off
quote:Originally posted by gjshaw
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
So you guys think they are exxagerating the KBB just a tad?
We'll see what they offer on my trade.
Here is one to compare it with. You are paying for the low miles on this one.
http://trucks.gibsontruckworld.com/gibson_truck_world_sanford_fl/details/1999-Ford-F-250-Lariat-Crew-Cab-73L-Powerstroke-Diesel-2WD/1FTNW20F7XEB39835/
one is 4wd the other is 2wd....big value difference there, I'd say $3k-4k
With Diesel past $4 a gal, I wouldn't be shopping for a diesel right now unless I NEEDED it. A private party sale would save you a bunch, and the values are going to depreciate as diesel nears $5/gal which is far off
I do need one.[:(] Can't pull a 5th wheel that's pushing 14k lbs loaded without one. The 5th wheel is for work. Tired of throwing money away on rent everywhere we go.
With fuel prices going thru the roof they should deal more with you.
Hopefully. It will require a nudge though.
I do need one.[:(] Can't pull a 5th wheel that's pushing 14k lbs loaded without one. The 5th wheel is for work. Tired of throwing money away on rent everywhere we go.
That must be one big-* trailer, mine only weighs 8000-8500# loaded.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
I do need one.[:(] Can't pull a 5th wheel that's pushing 14k lbs loaded without one. The 5th wheel is for work. Tired of throwing money away on rent everywhere we go.
That must be one big-* trailer, mine only weighs 8000-8500# loaded.
37-6, 4 slides, suitable for "living" in. 12G lbs. with water.
Just getting ready to turn 200k
Truck has been a absolute sweetheart
I've been through 2 alternaters
1 waterpump
1 clutch pack
1 slave
Nothing else has been done to my engine other than basic maint
Injector and tranny problems were on the 99 models and were rectified by 99.5 models
Here is a great website for info on these trucks http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/
Did you get it?
Just got home and no I did not.
Made it to 4 dealers.
Lot#1
It was the lowest priced on my schedule, and with good reason. It had a couple issues that none of the others tried had...
1) Lack of power, not impressive at all like a turbo diesel should be
2) The steering was wierd. It kind of darted back and forth. So I made the salesboy drive it and he said "yup I feel it, I'll ask"... the svc folks said it was a steering geer issue
(183k miles)
Anyway, drove 3 other trucks.
Lot#2
had only 2 used diesels, neither were in my range.
Lot #3
a 2007 (too new) ford with the 6.0(?)[V] that was priced in my high range (161k miles)$17k that had just come in on trade that morning. Had much more power than the 7.3 I drove but was a long bed [V].
Lot #4
two trucks.
a GMC over my price range (of course) but man was it sweet. Incredibly comfortable "cockpit", best fit I've ever had in a truck. Loved it. Best power of the 3 so far. (107k miles) $26k
Then a Chevy. Also out of my range, but what the heck, fun to drive[:D] Not quite as comfy as the GMC but nice, Same power, same miles, $21k Oh, funny thing, teh longer I drove it the higher the speedometer went, until it pegged. I parked back at the dealer doing 140mph.[:0] Fastest I've ever gone![8D]
No deals. Try again next weekend.[xx(]
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-DODGE-RAM-3500-LARAMIE-DIESEL-CUMMINS-6SPD-MANUAL-/150568123022?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item230e8f3a8e
This one is set up right. Make a rediculous offer. This is the Laramie , top of the line. I did notice it needs rear tires but use that as a bargaining chip. Low miles.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-DODGE-RAM-3500-LARAMIE-DIESEL-CUMMINS-6SPD-MANUAL-/150568123022?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item230e8f3a8e
Its a DODGE[xx(]. you could give me one of those though. would make a nice trade in on a ford or chevy.
This one is set up right. Make a rediculous offer. This is the Laramie , top of the line. I did notice it needs rear tires but use that as a bargaining chip. Low miles.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-DODGE-RAM-3500-LARAMIE-DIESEL-CUMMINS-6SPD-MANUAL-/150568123022?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item230e8f3a8e
That is a low miler, good price. Just leery of buying big ticket on ebarf...
If you're going to be hauling that weight everyday, I'd say yeah spend the money, but for once a month or so I wouldn't.
You can haul stuff with a gas motor too, ya know.
If you're going to be hauling that weight everyday, I'd say yeah spend the money, but for once a month or so I wouldn't.
This camper will be near 14,000 loaded. It will be pulled cross country, long round trips, twice a year for work. Probably a minimum 5-6k miles per trip, so not even counting leisure/recreational use.
Regular maint and 2 clutches(I am really hard on them, lazy driver) all I ever had to do to it in over 350,000 miles.
If the one you drove seemed under powered there were probably issues with it.
jp - For what it's worth, I have 2000 F250 w/ 7.3. Best truck I have ever owned, towed our 31' 5th wheel w/ ease. Up the mtns rarely had to drop out of 6th gear, always 15 mpg and up to 18 mpg out on the flat.
Regular maint and 2 clutches(I am really hard on them, lazy driver) all I ever had to do to it in over 350,000 miles.
If the one you drove seemed under powered there were probably issues with it.
Well it didn't suck you into the seat like the duramax. It was musch as you would expect from a gasser on a truck that big, maybe a tad less even.
On a diesel truck putting you back into the seat is not the most important thing. The most important thing and what separates a gas engine from a diesel is low end torque. Where a gas might jerk you back in your seat a diesel will keep towing where a gas will run out of power. I have had both and there is no comparison on towing ability between the two I don't care how much HP the gas has. My 2002 Ford diesel when the turbo kicks in you can feel it. If the one you where looking at was weak feeling then it probably has issues.
I understand torque, but since I can't hook onto a 12k lb load at the dealership, that is the only test I can give it.
I couldn't hear the diesel "whistle" on that one, now that I think about it. Hmmm....
quote:Originally posted by jltrent
On a diesel truck putting you back into the seat is not the most important thing. The most important thing and what separates a gas engine from a diesel is low end torque. Where a gas might jerk you back in your seat a diesel will keep towing where a gas will run out of power. I have had both and there is no comparison on towing ability between the two I don't care how much HP the gas has. My 2002 Ford diesel when the turbo kicks in you can feel it. If the one you where looking at was weak feeling then it probably has issues.
I understand torque, but since I can't hook onto a 12k lb load at the dealership, that is the only test I can give it.
I couldn't hear the diesel "whistle" on that one, now that I think about it. Hmmm....
If you put your foot into it and you didn't hear or feel any get up and go, turbo boost then I bet it has turbo problems which can be a pretty good problem.
My neighbor has a 2002 manual Duramax and my Ford is a 2002 manual 7.3 power stroke and power wise they are pretty close. His does seem the torque curve is longer, but I believe the lower end torque is better on mine.
That's what I have been told by some on that 7.3 so you are most likely correct, at least some I know agree with you.