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Dog tags [?]

Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
edited August 2003 in General Discussion
We've had a few roll calls of veterans on the board. I was wondering how many still carry their dog tag(s) ? I have one of mine on my keyring.

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  • maggiethecatmaggiethecat Member Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    one of my Marine Corps ones on the keys also. still in the boots i wear for the air force too. guess i should replace that with the new af one.

    speaking of dog tags, i went to get some made, and they had this $14,000 machine that stamps them. wowsers. $14,000. in the Corps we pushed a bar to the right letter, the pulled the lever hard as hell. man the af has all kinds of cash.

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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    But do you have one with a notch it[?]

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  • TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    22WRF,

    I wonder how many here know what the "notch" was for ?

    Twodogs
  • 19gator5519gator55 Member Posts: 125 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, I still have my dog tags, including a set with the notch, and it would probably slide right thru my teeth.[:D]

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  • jujujuju Member Posts: 6,321
    edited November -1
    quote:I wonder how many here know what the "notch" was for ?


    Twodogs, I hope you are not suscribing to the old rumour that the "notch" was so that the tag could be placed between the teeth of a dead soldier and pushed between the teeth.

    This is untrue, according to the US Army the notch is a result of the maufacturing process and was actually eliminated when additional info was included on the tag, info such as religion. The "notch" has nothing to do with the above mentioned rumour and in fact I nor any of the many vets I have served with and spoken have ever seen this done in a theater of combat.

    As a matter of fact this very topic was covered not to long ago on a episode of "Mail Call" with R. Lee Ermy.

    As to the original post, my tags disappeared a long time ago along with most of my papers. The result of a varied and mobile lifestyle way back when. When I bought my house I had to get copys from the the Records Center in St louis. It took a while but they found em.

    JuJu (just setting the record straight)
  • marinerahmarinerah Member Posts: 99 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Still have em'![:D] Actually, only have one of mine and one of my dads. He was a Vietnam veteran and active army reserve. When he passed away a few years ago, my brother(USMC) and I took both of his dog tags and gave him one of ours, so he has one of ours and we have one of his. I'll always have them!
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by juju

    quote:I wonder how many here know what the "notch" was for ?

    This is untrue...

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  • IAMACLONE_2IAMACLONE_2 Member Posts: 4,725
    edited November -1
    Good question.
    Lost them before I got out, I think.
    Still got the get'n out uniform,ribbons,badges, dinner bar stripes
    Yez 35 yrs ago..Damm get'n old and dont know it.
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  • maggiethecatmaggiethecat Member Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    juju is right on the money. the notch was merely a by product of manufacturing and stamping. NEVER were the tags kicked into the mouth. any vet here ever seen that done? didnt think so

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  • pack rat633pack rat633 Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, got mine right here, and my P-38 too, somewhere here(any one know what that is??)

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  • TOOLS1TOOLS1 Member Posts: 6,133
    edited November -1
    Got My tags and my fathers. His has the notch. And I have several P-38s. Some day I hope to fly them[:D]
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  • maggiethecatmaggiethecat Member Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yes i have the p-38. always call it a john wayne though

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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • jjmitchell60jjmitchell60 Member Posts: 3,887
    edited November -1
    I have one of mine on my keys and the old lady has the other on hers. Sad part is if I loose my keys then some one has my Social Security Number since that was my serial number. My youngest son has the one that was sent back with the body of my great uncle who he was named after. He was killed in Korea long before he or I were thought of! I will have my son get it out to see if there is a notch in it.
  • TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JuJu and MaggieC,
    You really think the "notch" on millions of tags was part of a glitch in the production process???....I admit I have no military experiance.. and I saw the show you metioned JuJu.....but after making countless murder scenes...here is my slant...I think the original "notch" for was the purpose I implied...(50-60 year ago reasoning and medical information at the time)
    They discovred it simply did not work as intended...IE.. a combat casualty will many times have multiple wounds...namely..enough escape routes for the gases to evaporate...to prevent bloating..in addition, what if there were no head...Furthermore, I belive it may have had a great negative effect on the troops...that the device handging around there neck...was to be shoved into the mouth if they bought it.....
    Just my opinion...
  • trooperchintrooperchin Member Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My grandfather who served in WW2 has his and they still have the notch..

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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...anyone know what the letter "H" stood for?
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,637 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Still have mine. Wish I had asked my dad about his before it was too late.

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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Correct DWS....During WWII the military offered to reissue dog tags to those of the Jewish faith if they so desired, they would change the "H" to something else in case of capture by the Nazi's.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt: Know the "non-denominational" notation?
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...afraid I don't know DWS, I just saw the explanation of the "H" on the History Channel a couple of months ago.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt: I think the "H" notation started around WWI, not WWII.
  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I lose dog tags right and left. I have to buy new sets everytime I move somewhere. I hope I have enough wits about me to keep my final set safe after I retire.

    It sure would be nice to own an old P-38....maybe one with a little history behind it. I wonder if there are dealers on one of the other internet auction site that might sell these types of things. I used my first P-38 to open coffee cans in my last office back in 2000. I wonder when they stopped issuing the P-38. Maybe at the advent of the MRE?
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IDSMAN: I have two or three from Vietnam (they actually opened up B3 Ham n' Limas). Email me--I'll send you one.
  • maggiethecatmaggiethecat Member Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    two dogs: the notch was not a glitch as you imply, it was put there on purpose so the machines making them then later stamping the info on them coul have a positive grip location so the tag did not rotate. i have personally talked to many vets of wars as far as WWI and NONE of them ever actually saw a tag kicked into a mouth. in fact, none were ever told to do it.

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  • jjmitchell60jjmitchell60 Member Posts: 3,887
    edited November -1
    DWS, on mine the non-denominational" notation is NO-REL-PREF except where I put the dash there is a dot.
  • 0311marine0311marine Member Posts: 3,233
    edited November -1
    I WEAR MINE ONCE A MONTH FOR DRILL,IVE GOT MY LUCKY GRENADE PIN ON IT TOO

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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still have one on my key ring.
    Don

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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    I moved about 9 years ago and I saw them, so their here some where, yes they have the notch. Dont know why I saved them.
  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Only had one left till a month ago my brother ran across my other
    one that got mixed up with his WW 2 stuff. The notch was only
    for locating it in the stamping machine. Nothing to do with in the teeth. Mine has blood type, religion, serial number (not SS no.)
    and latest tetanus shot date (44) also full name. At least in the ETO
    dog tags NEVER were removed from the dead OR PUT IN THE TEETH. Bodies
    were left for the Grave Registration people. Our company Medics usually confirmed the death when possible, and informed the Company
    commander.
  • Smokeeater 38Smokeeater 38 Member Posts: 2,735
    edited November -1
    I have mine some place safe. I if could only remember where it was. [:p]






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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I still have mine...my wife has them on her key ring. I've been through many sets, but this last one has managed to hang around. [:)]

    Eric
  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine are hanging on the gun cabinet door. Former USN
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