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misunderstood communication abominations

KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
another thread got the wheels turning and i have some time to kill so here goes.

certain phrases enter our lexicon in various ways and are twisted around to the point where they become meaningless drivel(at best) or outright insulting(at worst). i thought that i'd share a couple that have been pissing me off lately.

qualified compliments.

you look great for forty.
you look great for having had three kids.
thats great work for an amateur.
that a great product for the money.

these are not compliments. they are backhanded insults. what you want to say is that whatever the object you're talking about is sub par, not up to standards. thats what you want to say, but you dont want to be a dick about it, so you cover the negative remark with a pseudo compliment. this is bs. either tell the truth or stfu. when i get back handed compliments, the insult immediately registers. you're not fooling anyone. say what you mean or keep your pie hole shut.

blame reducing modifiers.

no offense
just saying etc

one thing is for sure, if somebody starts a sentence with "no offense, but...", they are about to say something offensive. they just dont want to take the responsibility for it, so they add one of these totally bs modifiers. just saying? i know you're the one saying it. whats the just for? people who are "just saying" need to just stfu or admit that they are being offensive, accusatory, contradictory, or inflammatory. adding no offense or just saying to a sentence doesnt absolve the speaker of the repercussions of their words. also in this category are just kidding, joking, playing etc. you made an ill considered remark, noticed that it didnt land the way you though it would, and now want to absolve yourself of responsibility by covering it as humor. BS! you're not fooling anyone. all you're doing with either of these is putting an escape clause in your statements. if they dont play out like you thought they would, you have an out. its bull and it needs to stop, or at least people need to understand what the words they let out of their mouth mean and more to the point, people need to know what the words that are being thrown at them mean.

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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well,
    Bless your heart [:)]
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll be sure to avoid the things that piss you off....just sayin'.[8D]
  • ChetStaffordChetStafford Member Posts: 2,794
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cpermd
    Well,
    Bless your heart [:)]



    Being from the south I know what that REALLY means......
  • iceracerxiceracerx Member Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "I didn't mean that in a bad way"
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    I'll be sure to avoid the things that piss you off....just sayin'.[8D]


    its got nothing to do with pissing me off. it doesnt piss me off personally, as in i dont get offended by forum posts. not a single person on this board knows me personally, so i dont have feelings associated directly with what goes on here.

    what pisses me off is the ignorance and banality with which we as a society use our language. it makes me sad when i talk with people who cant manage to utilize the most basic method of communication.
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    I'll be sure to avoid the things that piss you off....just sayin'.[8D]


    its got nothing to do with pissing me off. it doesnt piss me off personally, as in i dont get offended by forum posts. not a single person on this board knows me personally, so i dont have feelings associated directly with what goes on here.

    what pisses me off is the ignorance and banality with which we as a society use our language. it makes me sad when i talk with people who cant manage to utilize the most basic method of communication.


    i thought that i'd share a couple that have been pissing me off lately.

    Sorry....I must have misunderstood what you were saying.
  • JohnnyBGoodJohnnyBGood Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    another thread got the wheels turning and i have some time to kill so here goes.


    I'll bet you really get ticked off with auction descriptions such as "Bore looks good for its age", or "Bluing is fine considering it was carried in a holster for 20 years." [:)]

    Johnny
  • gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Paraprosdokians are figures of speech in which the latter part of a sentence or phrase is surprising or unexpected; frequently humorous.

    We never really grow up; we only learn how to act in public.

    To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

    I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

    To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.

    [^][:D]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just talk to people that know what niggardly means. If they think it's something racial, let that clue you in that their command of the English language leaves something to be desired. I just classify them as morons and don't talk to them.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    No offense Kev, but this rant was pretty pathetic... you know...for a long time forum member. Just sayin'![:)][^][:X]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try this out:

    "You look like crap. Popping out 3 babies has made your butt saggy, your breasts droop, and I'll bet you have big wrinkles on your skin. 23 year old hotties is all that look good to me, you fat ugly cow."

    After you pick yourself up off the floor, your mouth will be swollen shut & you won't have to worry about the backhanded insults.
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    I'll be sure to avoid the things that piss you off....just sayin'.[8D]


    its got nothing to do with pissing me off. it doesnt piss me off personally, as in i dont get offended by forum posts. not a single person on this board knows me personally, so i dont have feelings associated directly with what goes on here.

    what pisses me off is the ignorance and banality with which we as a society use our language. it makes me sad when i talk with people who cant manage to utilize the most basic method of communication.


    i thought that i'd share a couple that have been pissing me off lately.

    Sorry....I must have misunderstood what you were saying.


    what i was saying is that when somebody here, take mr. perfects post as an example, whips one of these abominations on me here it doesnt piss me off directly as not a single one of you can actually insult me because you dont know me and therefore cant get at my core.

    it pisses me off in a general sense to see our language being buzzardized like this. we're rapidly losing our ability to communicate, devolving into crap throwing apes.

    another example. like. properly used as part of a simile(a comparison most commonly using like or as) such as "it hit me like a ton of bricks" comparing the receipt of information to having a ton of bricks land on you' it has become an omniword, usable as nearly every tense of the sentence. thats a grammatical abomination and severely degrades the ability of a person to convey their thoughts or feelings.

    thats what i meant. while the posting here factor into this, this is far from the only place where i contact people. i hear it every day and it just pisses me off. perhaps i wasnt clear earlier and i hope i have clarified my position.
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MG1890
    Try this out:

    "You look like crap. Popping out 3 babies has made your butt saggy, your breasts droop, and I'll bet you have big wrinkles on your skin. 23 year old hotties is all that look good to me, you fat ugly cow."

    After you pick yourself up off the floor, your mouth will be swollen shut & you won't have to worry about the backhanded insults.


    wouldnt it be easier to with hold comment entirely? i frequently exercise my right to remain silent when a discussion turns to a females looks because saying nothing is better than saying the wrong thing and i wont lie for gratuitous reasons.
  • kissgoodnightkissgoodnight Member Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Southern way:
    She is so buck toothed, she could eat an apple through a picket fence. Bless her heart.
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Others may be "Buzzardizing" the language, sir, but YOU are absolutely slaughtering the hallowed traditions of capital letters.. Just sayin'.....[:D]
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,681 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The phrase I hear way to often on sunday morning.

    'Nice shot from there.'
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    I'll be sure to avoid the things that piss you off....just sayin'.[8D]


    its got nothing to do with pissing me off. it doesnt piss me off personally, as in i dont get offended by forum posts. not a single person on this board knows me personally, so i dont have feelings associated directly with what goes on here.

    what pisses me off is the ignorance and banality with which we as a society use our language. it makes me sad when i talk with people who cant manage to utilize the most basic method of communication.


    i thought that i'd share a couple that have been pissing me off lately.

    Sorry....I must have misunderstood what you were saying.


    what i was saying is that when somebody here, take mr. perfects post as an example, whips one of these abominations on me here it doesnt piss me off directly as not a single one of you can actually insult me because you dont know me and therefore cant get at my core.

    it pisses me off in a general sense to see our language being buzzardized like this. we're rapidly losing our ability to communicate, devolving into crap throwing apes.

    another example. like. properly used as part of a simile(a comparison most commonly using like or as) such as "it hit me like a ton of bricks" comparing the receipt of information to having a ton of bricks land on you' it has become an omniword, usable as nearly every tense of the sentence. thats a grammatical abomination and severely degrades the ability of a person to convey their thoughts or feelings.

    thats what i meant. while the posting here factor into this, this is far from the only place where i contact people. i hear it every day and it just pisses me off. perhaps i wasnt clear earlier and i hope i have clarified my position.


    Jeez, Kev! I was just messing with you....now my head hurts.

    If it makes a difference, I hear our language butchered every day. Sometimes by educated people who should know better.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    Add "literally" to "it hit me like a ton of bricks," or any other like statement.

    Do you even know what "literally" means? Or is that just a word that you think offers a deeper degree of intensity or seriousness to your situation?

    Because what you are saying is that a ton of bricks actually fell out of the sky on you.

    Or the dreaded, "Don't take this personally, but..." Everything is personal when you're a person...

    Just my pet peeves...[xx(][:)]
  • susiesusie Member Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As counselors we were taught that during any form of therapy any sentence that held a "but" meant that the first half of the sentence was cancelled by the second half of the sentence.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by susie
    As counselors we were taught that during any form of therapy any sentence that held a "but" meant that the first half of the sentence was cancelled by the second half of the sentence.


    Is that true for your sentence?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With all due respect, you shouldn't even make this kind of thread.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by susie
    As counselors we were taught that during any form of therapy any sentence that held a "but" meant that the first half of the sentence was cancelled by the second half of the sentence.


    Is that true for your sentence?


    Are you in therapy?

    [:D]
    Some days it feels like it.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somewhat related- or another name: damning by faint praise.

    As when a military commander sends a mesage to subordinate- "Fairly well done."
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    Just talk to people that know what niggardly means. If they think it's something racial, let that clue you in that their command of the English language leaves something to be desired. I just classify them as morons and don't talk to them.


    period.
  • NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pietro75
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    Just talk to people that know what niggardly means. If they think it's something racial, let that clue you in that their command of the English language leaves something to be desired. I just classify them as morons and don't talk to them.


    period.is that time of the month for some female species
    But not all of them[:D]
    KEVD18 didn't want to say this[:0] BUT[:0], you are an amateur[;)]give yourself more time and age/wisdom/ and trivial little things that get under your skin will fly over your head.just saying
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can I play? Maybe something like this:
    Kev, you are a nice guy for a "mazzhole".
    Does that work?[:D]

    Darned auto censor!
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