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Turkey in Pennsylvania

outdoortexasoutdoortexas Member Posts: 4,780
edited August 2003 in General Discussion
Turkey Call Magazine came this week, just opened it.

Has a list by state that shows population and harvest records. I was stunned to notice Penn. has 350,000 birds and 48,008 harvested!

Texas 578,512 pop. and 38,181 harvested.

Missouri was 800,000 and only 14,487 harvested...and that's third in line. These are all Eastern birds.

New York 250,000 birds and 12,000 harvest.

Only other state with over 10,000 harvest is Wisconsin with 10,850 out of 320,000.

Now, to be correct, there is no record for Louisiana. [:D] Gotta say it Coonass(and spiny/Dune)you guys don't know what a season is. [;)]

Comments

  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pennsylvanians like to hunt.


    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.<BR>
  • outdoortexasoutdoortexas Member Posts: 4,780
    edited November -1
    Must be so. The map furnished shows season dates, Pa. has 21 days for the fall hunt, Texas has almost four months from Nov. 1, to 22 FEB.

    Our spring hunt starts around the first of April and runs about 5/6 weeks. That's when it's fun!
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Outdooretex- I think most of the PA hunting seasons are short, when compared to other states. Deer season is two weeks(rifle),bear season is last time I checked, three days.
    And we got a lot of turkeys-my yard is infested with them. It is unusual to NOT see a turkey on my property at any hour of the day.

    "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
    -David Hume
  • toocarztoocarz Member Posts: 174 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OT,

    I hope you are doing well...IL harvested 14,631 of the wiley critters based on IL DNR preliminary results they published last May. Fortunately, I accounted for 2 of them [:D]

    http://dnr.state.il.us/pubaffairs/2003/May/spturkeyharvest2003.htm
  • TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Outdoor,
    I have always passed on Turkeys until last year.
    I hunt out around Rocksprings,Texas and we are covered in turkey on our lease. I'm talking 20-25 Toms most evenings.
    Others hunters finally talked me into takin a couple.
    Any good recipes???

    I'm now hunting in East Texas and lo and behold the turkey population here is taking off which really surprised me.

    Twodogs
  • paboogerpabooger Member Posts: 13,953
    edited November -1
    Come on up next Spring, and we will go hunt em. We had a hard time getting them to come in this year, they henned up early. They would Gobble on the Roost, come down and head right for the hens.
    Turkeys have been on the increase for the last several years. Remember Pennsylvania is mostly miles and miles of vast timber. Especially in Mckean and Potter County!

    pacamo

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    This was the Ancient law of Youth
    Old times are past, old times are done:
    But the Law runs true, O little son!
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    PA- See any poults? We have 70+ birds running around on our property-did not see one poult. The rain wreaked havoc on the nesting, and reports say not many poults made it.

    "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
    -David Hume
  • paboogerpabooger Member Posts: 13,953
    edited November -1
    Salzo: I haven't seen any, but several of my friends have. Your right though, all this rain has not been easy on them. My one buddy seen some real small ones the other day, do you suppose they had a second hatch, or was it just a late one?

    pacamo

    To Ride, shoot straight,and speak the truth
    This was the Ancient law of Youth
    Old times are past, old times are done:
    But the Law runs true, O little son!
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SOOOOO that means only 97 more days till Turkey day [:D]
    Hey Spiny- ya get your Shotgun fixed yet?

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    PA- From what I have read, if turkeys face a bad breeding season, they will extend it. I heard and saw a lot of Gobbling and strutting in the month of June, even the first week of July(well not as much as you would see in May, but a lot more than you should see in the summer). It definately looked to me like there was breeding activity going on at the late date-but I still havent seen any poults. With all of the turkeys I have running around here, I should see something.

    "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
    -David Hume
  • paboogerpabooger Member Posts: 13,953
    edited November -1
    Just got this off the PGC website, seems they tend to agree with ya.
    WILD TURKEY PRODUCTIVITY (Job 27001 PDF)
    Wildlife Conservation Officers (WCOs) recorded their daily travel distance and the number of wild turkeys seen each day while in the field during the months of June, July, and August 2001 to determine summer turkey population index trends. The statewide index of turkeys seen by WCOs in 2001 (18.2 turkeys seen/1,000 km) was similar to 2000 (18.8 turkeys seen/1,000 km). Although Turkey Management Areas (TMAs) 3 and 6 showed record values of turkeys seen/1,000 km, these increases were not significant. TMA 2 showed a significant decrease in turkeys seen, and represents the second consecutive year of fewer turkeys seen than the record number of 33.1 in 1995. TMA 5 had a significant increase in turkeys seen, closer to the record 26.9 seen in 1999. Daily rain events during the last week of May and first week of June, in many parts of Pennsylvania, may have negatively impacted poult survival during the first peak of hatch. This lower first-nest success, however, may have been offset by increased turkey poult survival during second nestings, which was prompted by dry, warm weather and outstanding food and cover conditions. This speculation is consistent with survey results and field reports of large turkey flocks that included multi-age young, which revealed re-nesting success. Spring harvest densities in TMAs 1A, 1B, 2, 5, 8, and 9B have shown substantial increases since 1995. TMAs 3, 4, and 6 have shown slight increases since 1995. TMAs 7A and 9A have shown stable spring harvest densities since 1995. TMA 7B, where we are studying the causes of a suppressed population, have had variable spring harvest densities. I recommend continuing this survey and spring harvest analysis to provide a basis for monitoring turkey population trends.




    pacamo

    To Ride, shoot straight,and speak the truth
    This was the Ancient law of Youth
    Old times are past, old times are done:
    But the Law runs true, O little son!
  • outdoortexasoutdoortexas Member Posts: 4,780
    edited November -1
    toocarz, these numbers are for the fall only and shows Illinois at 140,000 birds with only 2,037 harvested. Gotta have guns to hunt don't ya? [:D]
    Don't know why, just had a flash of Al Bundy with a shotgun...wouldn't that be scary! [;)]

    TwoDogs, lot of folks deep fryin' now a days but you've got to have the pot and all. My lady slices the breast and chicken frys it like we do down this way along with cream gravy. If you want it whole, a lot of bar-b-que places will cook it for ya.
  • BlackieBoogerBlackieBooger Member Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Does anyone have the number of turkeys taken by county in Pennsylvania? I think Crawford County could be high on the list, but I am not sure.
    Also I am going over to Beaver Valley gun shop in Waterford today to order an Ithaca Turkeyslayer Storm. Ithaca suspended their turkey retro-kit promotion a year ago and I was not able to get one of those.

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  • toocarztoocarz Member Posts: 174 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OT...for fall, you are correct....not many permits available. There will be slightly less than 3,000 shotgun permits issued statewide for this fall. However, I did get one with a bow last fall. I would write more, but I gotta make Peg breakfast, see if my daughter made it home last night, check the air pressure on Bud's doll, and make Peg breakfast...no butter, I'll just use the oil that leaked out of the Dodge overnight! [:D][:D][:D][:D] We are not all like Al Bundy here....just our mayor is.
  • outdoortexasoutdoortexas Member Posts: 4,780
    edited November -1
    [:D]
    No offence intended! Al's my hero!

    Who else can make the rest of us feel like we have it made when compared to his life? [;)]
  • toocarztoocarz Member Posts: 174 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I love the show too...it cracks me up [:D]
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