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scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
American Idol is an extremely popular hit show. Note how the aspiring "Idols" hold a microphone or wear one alongside their face? Dancing around? Back and forth? Somewhat like the highly animated and highly talented Garth Brooks?

Now........

Remember when a male singer came out on stage in a TV show, dressed in a tuxedo, clean shaven, hair perfect, wearing patent leather dress shoes, stayed in one spot on that stage and sang out into the air (we couldn't see the boom microphone over his head), using his arms to express himself during the performance.

Remember when a female singer came out in an evening dress or gown, fully coiffed, makeup impeccably applied and like her male counterpart, stayed in one place on the stage, sang out into the air and used her hands to gracefully express herself?

Remember when singers in general didn't hold notes forever and roll them around, up and down and up and down and up and down on a vocal washboard just to create an effect?

Remember when singers didn't scream songs? When they actually hit the high notes fluidly and repeatedly, without crouching down into a near-spasm stance, kness bent inward as if their baldder was about to burst?

Remember when singers immediately bowed or courtsied after the sing ended and said "Thank You!" to their audience?

Remember how we looked forward to The Ed Sullivan Show every Sunday evening?

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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Do you remember when we all thought Judge Dread was nuts?


    He didn't come close to some of the lame loonie tunes that are hanging around here now.


    Compared to some of the current members, Eric Williams was an intellectual giant.


    Trolls have come and gone over the years, but I think there are more now than at any other time.

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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Bidden said "mark my words, it won't be 6 months before something happens, an international incident to test the metal of this guy" BARAK
    funny thing is the arabs and others have been pulling their money out of the stock market and now floundering banks in somewhat of a controled fashion so they don't start a panic but they want all their assets out of this country and why? because when they start a war with isreal, they know the US will freeze all their assets. IRAN will attack Isreal before next memorial day and the US will do nothing about it because the libs are in power. That was the second half of Bidens message..."at first it may seem we are making the wrong descision about how to deal with the crisis"
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Remember when your mom said "Never take candy from a stranger?"...

    This is who she was talking about...












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  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    On August 24, 2011, armed FBI agents in SWAT gear executed a warrant for the seizure of wood at Gibson Guitar facilities.

    At the time, the raid appeared peculiar because of the excessive forced used over charges of regulatory violations. The premise of the raid was an obscure 100-year-old law known as the Lacey Act. On the basis of this act, the Feds were able to storm the facilities, claiming that Gibson's had broken foreign (not American) law in its procurement of the wood, even though the government produced no evidence of the crime at the time and no evidence has since emerged that the material was illegally obtained. Juszkiewicz was only told at the time that the Gibson supply chain had a "risk" of including illicit wood.

    Notably, one of Gibson's biggest competitors, C.F. Martin & Co., reportedly uses the same type of wood seized from Gibson's, but did not face any kind of interference from the federal government. The Examiner reports that Chris Martin IV, CEO of C.F. Martin & Co., is a well-known Democratic fundraiser. The Examiner describes Martin as "a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of election cycles." Furthermore, no other companies known to use the wood in question, such as furniture manufacturers, have reported similar prosecution from the federal government, though the wood is distributed widely throughout the world.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Israel could not win a conventional war with iran...not without our help but I know they would use nukes to level the playing field especially if iran is backed by the russians or chinese..this is the gateway to WWIII
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    if israel is attacked they would habe every right to use nukes to defend themselves...they would be foolish not to.
  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Not taking sides...just fact: Israel has done more than merely shooting down one of our jets....







    anybody remember the USS Liberty?
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    the point isn't about saving Israel, it's about the war that will start after they are attacked. Obama swore to take us out of Iraq and within 6 months we will be in Iran..I can feel the tail wagging the dog even now.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    The UN has an obligation to protect nations from unprovoked agression. Their mandate prevents (supposedly) alliances from forming behind enemies and compelling many nations to fight, escalating to global war. What we would be doing in Iran is supporting UN resolutions. However, there are many in this country who believe it is our Christian duty to support and defend Israel. (it is biblical)
    Those are powerful people in our government plus an effective lobby.
    As the only self sustained democracy in the region, Israel is one of our prized protectorates.
    I don't like it when Israel forces it's will on their neighbors but I like it even less when rogue governments like the one in Iran deliberately test our will by attacking our allies
  • milshootermilshooter Member Posts: 30 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    The UN has an obligation to protect nations from unprovoked agression. Their mandate prevents (supposedly) alliances from forming behind enemies and compelling many nations to fight, escalating to global war. What we would be doing in Iran is supporting UN resolutions.


    Scott, I may be wrong, but I don't think the UN mandate includes defending anyone nor any compulsion for anyone to fight. Perhaps you are thinking about NATO? If your statements were true, all nations of the UN would have joined us in Iraq because the UN called for force if Saddam did not comply with the UN resolutions. As I understand things, the UN is powerless to unilaterally do anything except complain.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    I know all that and I mostly agree with you...why do we do the UN's dirty work? and foot the bill? why do we support such a small segment of our population (jewish americans) Why do we support one country when abandoning them would grant us a large measure of peace in a region we have to do business in? Why do we stick our noses in the business of other countries? What can we do to get our government to follow the will of the majority of it's people?
    Many in this country believe we are blessed by GOD and that by supporting Israel we are earning that blessing. It is one thing to be a good neighbor and to uplift the oppressed, protect the innocent and support the civil/human rights of all people but how do you continue to do that for ungratful, backstabbing traitors who have only their own desires at heart? I guess you have to be "Christlike" Forgiving, generous, loving your enemies,and being the rock in a world of sand
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by milshooter
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    The UN has an obligation to protect nations from unprovoked agression. Their mandate prevents (supposedly) alliances from forming behind enemies and compelling many nations to fight, escalating to global war. What we would be doing in Iran is supporting UN resolutions.


    Scott, I may be wrong, but I don't think the UN mandate includes defending anyone nor any compulsion for anyone to fight. Perhaps you are thinking about NATO? If your statements were true, all nations of the UN would have joined us in Iraq because the UN called for force if Saddam did not comply with the UN resolutions. As I understand things, the UN is powerless to unilaterally do anything except complain.

    LOL I think youre right
  • milshootermilshooter Member Posts: 30 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scottm21166
    why do we do the UN's dirty work? and foot the bill? why do we support such a small segment of our population (jewish americans) Why do we support one country when abandoning them would grant us a large measure of peace in a region we have to do business in? Why do we stick our noses in the business of other countries?

    Scott, here's my read on that.... I have traveled and continue to travel throughout Europe (also Russia) - many times each year. I have met and talked with hundreds of normal people there. While the people there almost universally complain about the USA, they EXPECT us to maintain order in the world. They almost revere the USA as the "Universal Protector". Without us, they would be at risk from foreign aggression. I know it sucks and I personally think we should learn to mind our own business, but we're like the big brother - always called upon to defend our little brothers. The bottom line is that we will (and have) almost always stood to defend ANY democracy against aggression. And we always come out of it smelling like poop. So it isn't a "Jewish" thing - it is a "democracy" thing. As I understand it (from sources within the government), we did NOT go into the (deomocratic) Republic of Georgia when Russia "invaded" because we repeatedly warned the Georgian President AGAINST his stupid acts of defiance and aggression against Russia. There can be no winner if Russia and the USA begin hostilities directly as opposed to through surrogates.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by badwrench
    Why would we be in Iran? Why SHOULD we ever be in Iran? We wouldn't have to have anything to do with it. A simple solution would be to let Israel fight them. It would be their war anyway. They would have been the ones being attacked, not us.

    Everyone here just loves to rail about the bailout, welfare, illegals, foreign aid, anti-globalism, the evils of collectivism and a one world government, the "new world order", people standing up for themselves, defense (home, self, national and otherwise), etc. My feelings toward being involved in ANY FUTURE FOREIGN WARS is directly related to all of these things. International politics and past actions have put the US in the position of the world's police force, welfare office, soup kitchen, food bank, homeless shelter, dumping ground for excess population, etc. Whenever a UN "peacekeeping force" is deployed, it's primarily composed of troops from the US and the same people who * about UN interference are beating the war drums and chanting "get some!" Well, I say we can no longer have it both ways.

    What I am saying is let other countries do what so many here are saying we need to do for ourselves. I agree we need to do these things for ourselves, but we also should butt out of the rest of the world and let them do for themselves. We need to stop "making the world safe for democracy" and let other nations solve their own problems. We cannot afford to go around saving the world at the cost of out own nation. Sink or swim, that goes for us, too. The water is too deep for others to stand on our shoulders any longer.

    Sticking our collective nose in the business of other sovereign nations is what got us in the "terror" mess to begin with, and getting involved in anything with Iran would make things 1,000 times worse than they are now. And, of course even the folks that are champing at the bit for a war with Iran would blame Obama if it all went to $#!+, which it will no matter who is in charge. It is just a lose-lose situation. So I say we pay the rest of the world what we owe them. Nothing. That is what we're getting from them.



    Point of clarification, if I may be so bold.

    I believe that you have confused who is beating the "war-drums". It is the Neoconservatives and Globalist-Leftists, not those of us espousing adherence to the Constitution.

    Being the worlds policeman and involving ourselves into such foreign entanglements is central to the "one-world", neocon, CFR, UN Globalist crowd, not the Constitutional Republic crowd.
  • OleDukOleDuk Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't see too many people talking to joe givette's question about the U.S.S. Liberty. Out and out unprovoked attack on a United States ship in International waters. Wouldn't have bothered me if we had taken out their whole damned navy.

    OleDuk[:(!][:(!]
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    We need to tell the whole world to kiss our big ole hairy butts and close down all military bases, embassys, business, that the US has over in some other country and then clean up by our own back door.

    We have the resorces that we do not need anyone other than the hard working American people. We need to get rid of any and all illegals and the American people can go back to work.
  • 17tobyracing17tobyracing Member Posts: 3,429 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Our politicians will stop at nothing to defend the Socialistic State of Israel. Our politicians will continue to truckle to Israel because of the Jewish-American Lobbyists. Israel was a major topic at each of the Presidential Debates; while such topics as our 2nd Amendment Rights and Social Security were brushed aside. There was a "Holocaust Memorial" in Washington D.C., paid for with our tax money, well before their was one erected for our own brave W.W.II Veterans. Israel has been caught spying on us and has sold our military technology; yet our politicians still consider them to be our great ally. Not once has the Israeli Military taken up arms and fought side-by-side with Americans, not even when we are defending their very existence in the Middle East. The 9/11 terrorist attacks were a direct result of our continuing political, financial, and military support of Israel...

    You want to lower our deficit? Start by cutting off this parasite...

    U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact Summary:


    Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
    Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

    Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
    $74,157,600,000

    Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of our total Foreign Aid expenditures)
    $9,047,227,200

    Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
    $1,650,000,000

    Grand Total
    $84,854,827,200

    Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
    $49,936,680,000

    Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
    $134,791,507,200

    Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
    $23,240
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gentlemen all I can say is we are in for some very interesting times over the next 4 years and beyond.
  • victorlvlbvictorlvlb Member Posts: 5,004
    edited November -1
    badwrench
    Ever heard of frendly fire? Not so much as in a platoon on patrol , but between nations. It can be used to get another nation to come to a nations aid. There is no difference in a Jew , Hebrew or Israelit, when they all believe in the Old testament.
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