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How Far is Far Enough?
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Saw on FOX today, the Sgt. from the Army that Presents the Flag to the Widow, or Mother, of a soldier being burried, can no longer say at the end of the presentation, "God Bless you" .
Has it come to letting a few A--Holes that hate this country, and Athiest, have their way? tearing this country apart from within..
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
BIG DOG
Has it come to letting a few A--Holes that hate this country, and Athiest, have their way? tearing this country apart from within..
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
BIG DOG
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You must have something seriously, SERIOUSLY wrong with you if you find offense at someone wishing you well in times of grief.
Measure twice, cut once.
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Soviet Union and he told us that "God Bless You" was a commonly used phrase in private and in public during the rule of communism. He was musing about all the debate about God in our society.
Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.<BR>
In a major court trial, before you testify, don't you still put your hand on the Bible? Maybe not, I haven't ben to any kind of official court in forever.
Them ducks is wary.
I dont know where all these constitutional interpreters, are getting the words, "Seperate church from state" from? I have read it over and over and have yet to see these words, What I do see is the Government shall make no law as to the establishment of a religeon or infringe on the right to practice it. Which means to me, they cant tell us where and when we may, or what specific religeon we must have. No where does it say that prayer or symbols cant or can be used in government or public places.. So how can these idiots that want religion banned, saying "seperate church from state" ask the same government to rule on a religeous issue, of which they are forbidden to do by the constitution. (shall not infringe on the right to practice", and if their rulings dont infringe on my right, what do they do??
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
BIG DOG
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I dont know where all these constitutional interpreters, are getting the words, "Seperate church from state" from? I have read it over and over and have yet to see these words, What I do see is the Government shall make no law as to the establishment of a religeon or infringe on the right to practice it. Which means to me, they cant tell us where and when we may, or what specific religeon we must have. No where does it say that prayer or symbols cant or can be used in government or public places.. So how can these idiots that want religion banned, saying "seperate church from state" ask the same government to rule on a religeous issue, of which they are forbidden to do by the constitution. (shall not infringe on the right to practice", and if their rulings dont infringe on my right, what do they do??
Classic-More specifically it says "CONGRESS shall make no law." I was listening to a local talk show this morning, and the topic was Judge Moore and his ten commandmnents monument. Call after call, whether the caller was for or against Judge Moore, the callers continually misquoted the first amendment. One caller said that the first amendment prohibited state sponsored religion, but it is OK to have the ten commandments-the first amendment says no such thing. ANother caller said that the seperation of church and state is in the first amendment-Another one said that the "founders" only prohibited government sponsored religion. It was amazing. Not one caller correctly quoted what the first amendment syas-they all rely on what someone else says the first amendment says, which is the real problem. "CONGRESS shall make no law establishing religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof." The first amendment DOES NOT say that religion on a government level is prohibted, quite the contrary, it says that congress cant prohibit the free exercise of religion. If the state of Alabama, deems it appropriate to place a monument of the ten commandments IN THEIR COURTHOUSE-they are CONSTITUTIONALLY protected in doing so-In a nut shell, questions of religious practice are not of the concern of the federal government, but state and local governments are to decide these issues. At least, thats what the CONSTITUTION says.
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
-David Hume
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U!S!A! ALL THE WAY!!
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
BIG DOG
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I know it says CONGRESS, but Congress is government.. semantics, My point being is that the federal, nor state, government can over rule the constitution, but it seems as if they are doing it everyday.. Government is Government, be it at Federal level or State level..
Semantics? Hardly. When the constitution says congress, it means congress. It does not mean all government, and it certainly does not mean state governments, or state legislatures. Government may be government at federal or state level, but state government does not equate to CONGRESS. If it was the intention of the composers of the bill of rights and constitution to prohibit religion on the state level, than the writers of the constitution would have written it that way. This is easily proven(assuming we are going to pretend that "congress" might mean states)when one considers the fact that several states, after the ratification of the constitution, collected taxes for the church, and had religious requirments for elected officials. These actions would have obviously been unconstitutional IF the word "congress" meant something else. But no one raised an eyebrow at these practices, aor dared call them unconstitutional, because back then, people understood that the 1st amendment prohibited the federal government from meddling in the affairs of religion, because people knew what the word "congress" meant. If, the founders even thought of prohibiting the rights of the states to decide for themselves on religious matter, then the constitution would have never been ratified. The whole point of the constitution was to have in writing the very limited role of the federal government- and in very few places, religion not one of them, to place specific and very few limits on the states. It had to be that way, because the states ratified the constitution, and they werent about to surrender their authority to a new government, after shaking off the shackles of the former government.
Its funny-I just read an article in USA today, about the ten commandments fury going on in Alabama. USA today said that the courts have continually ruled that such displays "violate the first amendment requirement that GOVERNMENT 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion'" They actually put in quotes "MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION", but instead of placing the word CONGRESS in front of the quote, they instead chose GOVERNMENT. It is truly amazing how easy it is to pull the wool over the eyes of society. They actually changed the word so as to make these blatant violations(not Moores actions, the federal governments actions) of the first amendment seem constitutional. And at the same time, by changing that little word, it makes it seem like Moore is acting unconstitutionally, instead of the feds.
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
-David Hume
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She gave me the strangest look and I almost went to the medicine cabinet to fetch burn salve.
Now I know this girl and she can make a sailor blush when she's steamed. I just got to thinking how this world has really gone to extreme. I'm sure if someone else in the room had taken God's name in vain she wouldn't have batted an eye. However on the other hand if I were to object to her saying the Lord's name in vain she would have told me it was her freedom of speech and I have no right to tell her what she can and can't say. But mention what I said or the original name given homosexuals, and they have a calf. I guess I was born 200 years too late. Go figure.
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