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Bush to address Immigrant Issue Hairy

select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
All your Wisdom is coming full circle...Put this in the record books folks... We all know how slick Willie was.. Well y'all are going to see how you were fooled for the past 7 years.. Just pay attention how 12 million Mexicans will STAY in the U.S.A. Just remember YOU voted for Bush... Flame away

Bush to address Americans on immigration Fri May 12, 10:00 AM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Amid a clamor over illegal immigration, President George W. Bush will make his case for a comprehensive overhaul of U.S. immigration law on Monday night in a prime-time Oval Office address, the White House announced on Friday.

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White House spokesman Tony Snow said the White House was asking the U.S. television networks to carry the speech live at 8 p.m (Midnight GMT).

Bush and many members of the Republican-led U.S. Congress are divided over how to address the issue of up to 12 million illegal immigrants working in the United States, with conservatives pressing for tougher border security.

Bush wants more border security along with a temporary guest-worker program for the illegal immigrants.


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  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All you folks were saying that you don't have anything against immigration, that you are only against "illegal" immigration. Well the president heard you and he has responded. he's gonna make 'em all legal, so you won't have to worry about a bunch of "illegals" running around the country anymore.
  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He's just going to do the same thing the Democraps would do.What's the correct date for the speech,Fri.or Monday???[:)]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:)]I said it once and I will say it again. 12 million Mexicans ARE NOT going back.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ATF
    He's just going to do the same thing the Democraps would do.[:)]


    Not quite. He could have shut the border down when negotiation with Fox 6 years ago. Bush decided to table it and see what happens. Well now you see what has happened.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Didn't you vote for him too?

    I support Bush's TEMPORARY guest worker solution far more than I support allowing them amnesty.

    I hope and pray that ALL of you are emailing and calling your representatives on this matter. The Senate has lost it's mind...if it ever had one.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bush's temporary work program is a band-aid on a severed artery. Once it is passed they are here. Well hell they are here anyway.. Just a formality to say something was done about the situation.
  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    I know that it is clear that both parties support illegial immigration. They are both scared to death of the backlash from the hispanic population if they take a stand against Immigration. The democrats are praying that Bush will take that stand, so they can call him a racist. They all support illegial immigration openly. So how can Bush be the bad guy!! So funny!

    You all know Bush came from Texas and many of his friends are hispanics, good grief, his brother Jeb is married to a hispanic. He will never take a position against hispancs. He isn't stupid!

    If not for the Republicans taking the White House we would not be gun owners today, most likely. The Klintons were taking away that right by packing the courts with anti-gun activists judges. All the gov offices were clamping down on our rights. Well that all changed so we get to be gun owners for a few more years until the Demos get the White House and Congress back. Then the takeaway programs will begin again.

    So I guess we have to decide what is most important to us. We will never get a President or Congress that supports all the programs we favor. As the country moves with the rest of the world to the left and embraces this socialistic crap its unlikely we will ever see a real conservative again. Just watered down varities like Bush.

    I wonder sometimes what the agenda of the left is in this forum. Just to create dissent? Because the left is behind the movement to remove gun ownership in this county, so how can you support it and be a gun owner. Wake up!
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is still a Republican / Democrat issue all the time. It is never an American issue of what is right. I do blame Bush for letting this happen;


    Well , all you diehard Bush supporters, read the DATE on the top of this article.






    09/05/2001 - Updated 11:14 PM ET





    Fox urges Bush to speed immigration accord


    By Larry Downing, Reuters
    Mexican President Vicente Fox and President Bush listen to their national anthems.

    By Laurence McQuillan and Mimi Hall, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON - Mexican President Vicente Fox challenged President Bush on Wednesday to reach an accord this year aimed at allowing millions of Mexicans to work legally in the United States and create "new conditions of fairness" in both countries. Speaking during a red-carpet arrival ceremony at the White House, Fox addressed a problem that has strained relations between the two nations, which share a 2,000-mile border.

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    "We must and we can reach an agreement on migration before the end of this very year," Fox said. Such a pact would be meant to reduce dangerous illegal crossings from Mexico and ease the burden on the United States, which provides education and other services to illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes. Fox also called for legal recognition for undocumented workers already in this country.

    What's for dinner?

    On the menu for Wednesday's state dinner for Mexican President Vicente Fox:
    First course: Maryland crab and chorizo pozole, summer vegetables, Mi Sueno Chardonnay ''Carneros'' 1999.
    Second course: Pepita (pumpkin seed) crusted bison, poblano whipped potatoes, fava bean and chanterelle ragout, apple chipotle sauce, Shafer Cabernet Sauvignon ''Hillside Select'' 1994.
    Third course: Salad of gold and red tomatoes, mache and micro greens, sherry dressing.
    Dessert: Mango and coconut ice cream dome, peaches, raspberries, red chile pepper sauce, tequila sabayon, Schramsberg ''Cremant'' 1997.



    After the two leaders talked for about 90 minutes, White House national security adviser Condoleezza Rice emerged from the meeting to describe their discussion. She told reporters that Bush would like to nail down an agreement this year but stopped short of a deadline. "We were aware that President Fox had this objective," Rice said. "Indeed, we think that it would be terrific if we were able by the end of the year to achieve agreement."

    She emphasized, however, that while Bush "shares the desire to do it quickly," he wants "to get it right." Privately, some administration officials said Fox's timetable caught them off-guard, and they would have preferred that he not state it publicly. They said it will be difficult to move immigration legislation through Congress quickly. Congressional Republicans generally want more limited changes. Democrats have called for expanding Bush's idea to other nationalities.

    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, the senior Democrat on the House immigration subcommittee, said, "It is disappointing that both presidents think reform will take so long to broker." Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the congressional immigration-reform caucus, said chances are slim that Congress will grant legal status to undocumented Mexicans. "It sends the wrong message," he said.

    Fox wants a swift agreement so it can be approved by both countries and implemented while he and Bush are in their first terms. Bush's term expires in 2005, Fox's in 2006.

    Bush said both nations "must work together in a spirit of respect and common purpose" on immigration, illegal drugs and environmental protection. "The United States has no more important relationship in the world than the one we have with Mexico."

    Experts estimate that at least 3 million Mexicans are now working illegally in the USA, most in low-paying jobs. Bush has endorsed extending legal status to at least some Mexicans and other illegal immigrants who are working and paying taxes in the USA. But he has not defined the conditions under which they would receive permanent residency or said whether they would become citizens.

    This morning, Fox is scheduled to become the first Mexican leader in a decade to address a joint session of Congress. He then flies with Bush to Toledo, Ohio, for a midday visit with Mexican-Americans living there. They will then return to Washington for a small dinner hosted by Fox.




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  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    Yea, I agree this stuff makes us crazy! All you can do is listen at election time and see if anyone has enough courage to take a stand against immigration and vote for them. I have not heard many take that stand! Scary huh? Makes you wonder if we are out of step with the rest of the world.

    I read a post about the Mexican leader talking about suing Sheriff Joe A. That made me nuts! I wonder if its true? Makes me want to join his posse and get it on with the min men.
  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I cant help but wonder where in hell will the U.S. get enough interperters to help these 12 million people apply for citizenship
    papers, and enough welfare workers to meet the demand when they become
    citizens. Talk about a "make work" project, this is it in spades. Here
    go our taxes up again guys.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is this what you call passing the buck?
    He knows he will not be in office when his "temporary" program runs out.
    Let someone else deal with it.

    In the mean time, 20 million more will be arriving.

    Does anyone know the stock symbol for Chipotle? Didn't they just go public? If the SHTF soon with the illegals, their stock should take a dive. Since it looks like they WILL be here following the SHTF scenario, this dip should be a good time to pick up some of their stock. [}:)]
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Hey guys, he was YOUR choice, remember? [}:)]

    Sig232: You seem to forget that Bush said he WOULD SIGN the AWB if it came to his desk, so you can put him in the column as the other gun-grabbing politicians. [:(]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hairy , somehow I don't think they wanna hear that. His IQ is less than mine and I sure as H don't wanna run a Superpower nation.[;)]
  • get_involvedget_involved Member Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bush wants more border security? I guess the problem just started yesterday because he has been on office for how many years?

    Do you think it might be a ploy to get his guest worker program/amnesty passed? LOL!

    No such thing as temporary workers. http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1212/p09s02-coop.html
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