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Military guys question....
bigdaddyjunior
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I know the oath that all branches take makes you swear to defend the constitution with your life if necessary, but at anytime during basic or even in later training is there ever any reading of it or discussion of it? Just curious how many take an oath to defend something abstract with their lives. Seems like the military spawned politicians don't know what it says really . Or perhaps they don't care once it becomes a hinderance.
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1. I am an American, fighting in the forces, which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
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If so, then why are they called out during times of Peaceful Assembly guaranteed by the Constitution?
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Enlistment oath:
Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath: ''I, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the
Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.'' This oath may be taken before any commissioned officer of any armed force
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I, FULL NAME, having been appointed a Second Lieutenant, in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter. SO HELP ME GOD
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I've never had to sign the Code of Conduct--memorized it instead. It wasn't mandatory but I was asked, in more words or less, what requirements were contained in the second Article of the code during my E-5 promotion board. I said to myself "what the heck" and recided it verbatim. They didn't screw with me after that. They just asked me the basic questions without tossing any trick questions in the mix.
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I am familiar with the oath itself. What I was wondering is if the Constitution that you are swearing to defend is read and discussed. I mean how can you defend something if you don't know what it says? Seems like a brief course in constitutional interpretation would be appropriate before asking someone to defend it with their life.
Never had it discussed or even really mentioned in the 22 years I've been in. As for the National Guard the oath includes a part that says "I will obey the orders of the president of the united states and the governor of the state of __________" in addition to the other stuff.
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I've taken it six times and I've understood what it meant every time. I didn't need anyone to explain it to me.
I agree. I read the oath before I took it. I raised my right hand and recited the oath in front of witnesses.
I don't need someone to "talk to me about it" or what it means. I don't take oaths lightly and am perturbed by a thread that assumes that.
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