quick reloading question

RustyBones

I have the RCBS Rock Chucker (given to me for free). It has the primer tool shown here:



I want to be able to use the primer tubes like this:



What do I need?

RustyBones

How many grains of 777 do I need for this old Redhawk? I about fill the case up and it still doesnt seem right. Also when I hammer in the 45 ball it deforms the case a little, not so much that i cant load and fire it though. accuracy leaves a lot to be desired. any suggestions welcome for this new handloader.

RustyBones

Are the dies for 5.56 and .223 the same? I can't find anything listing 5.56.

rider

What exact caliber?

RustyBones

44 magnum

bama55

Buy some loading equipment, and a powder manual!

phillip

quote:Originally posted by bama55
Buy some loading equipment, and a powder manual!


+10,000

RustyBones

hammer and pliers, and an empty casing to measure the powder with,is all you really need.

likemhot

Good luck 777 is black powder, let me know where you shoot, so I won't. Don't get me wrong I did'nt say it couldn't be done, just that for all the smoke, blast and poor accuracy I wouldn't do to my guns.

Stole this from another site.

http://www.handloads.com/forum/showthread.asp?topic=5&thread=1316

rider

I had a good pal like you when I was younger. Haven't seen old Stubby in years. [:0][:0]

rider

RustyBones

[8D]

1911a1-fan

quote:Originally posted by likemhot
Good luck 777 is black powder, let me know where you shoot, so I won't.


+1

there is a reason no one uses your method, primer seating has to be done gently, powder must be exact within 1/10 of a grain, bullet must be seated within 1/100 of exact depth, and MUST be crimped

i hope you where joking

agman1999

And nobody even mentioned the .45 ball...

jonk

I'll be the first to admit that I find loading BP a pain, but it is also rewarding; I don't find that it is any less accurate than any other powder, and a lot of cowboy action shooters would take some serious hombrage with what you're all saying.

Blackpowder or any of the substitutes- very simple. Fill case. Either to the top or nearly so; settle powder. Seat bullet to the powder. Done. You can play with fillers and wads and grease cookies all you want, but the bottom line is, whatever you put above the powder column, there can be no air between the bullet and the powder.

The hammer and ball approach may work, but you seriously need to invest in real reloading gear. A simple lee loader can be had for $15 that is slow but will do the job. And real bullets, not balls.

Odawgp

don't do it here is the offical data and warning from hodgdon

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/muzzleloading/pellets/metallic.php

dakotashooter2

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quote:when I hammer in the 45 ball it deforms the case a little,


Hint: 45 cal bullets are .452-.454 a .44 mag requires bullets of .429-.430 [B)]

You are not going to get magnum performance using a black powder or a black powder substitute in a .44 mag case. Even the orginal 45 colt cases were "balloon head" to allow for more powder capacity and they still didn't reach todays magnum status. Accuracy depends on consistency in the powder charge, bullet seating depth and case tension on the bullet. All hard to achieve with a hammer and pliers.
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At least get an original lee loader (15-$20)and a Hodgdon Annual Manual ($8).[^] http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=79404805

So far the strenth of that redhawks is probably what has allowed you to keep your fingers.

bama55

quote:Originally posted by agman1999
And nobody even mentioned the .45 ball...


I just figured he was shaving it to size when he hammered it in the case.[:D]

RustyBones

i confess: was only joking [}:)]