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The Common Good....?
longhunter
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I can't find all by stuff on the constitution and etc,but isn't there something in there someplace about it being for the "commomn good"? Just what does the commom good mean to us in all this...how can it be for the common good and still leave us our "individual rights"/ Someone help me out here.....Please?
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...how can it be for the common good and still leave us our "individual rights".
Obviously, it can't. Worse, what is defined as the common good is relative to the power defining it. The notion of a common good has been used to impose upon the people everything from Mein Kampf to the Communist Manifesto to the Homeland Security Act.
Big Daddy my heros have always been cowboys,they still are it seems
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE......., do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America." The preamble, specifically, the "general welfare" clause, is used by constitutional deconstructionist to negate the entire constitution, under the guise of "well we can do whatever we want to do, because the constitution says we can do things for the "general welfare", which is, anything we say it is" When the reality is, the general welfare is specifically the powers mentioned in the constitution. The mention of "general welfare" can also be found in article 1 section 8, which enumerates the areas in which taxes can be raised for. Again, this is used by the decvonstructionist to deny the existence of areas in which the constitution SPECIFICALLY mentions that taxes can be raised for, and instead, use the preamble to negate the entire section 8, under the guise that "we can collect taxes for the general welfare, and the general welfare is whatever we deem the general welfare is." If that was the intent of the constitution, section 8, and for that matter, the entire constitution would be unecessary. The writers of the constitution would have written instead, something to the effect, "congress can collect taxes for whatever purposes it wants to collect taxes", and congress can legislate for whatever purposes itr wants to legislate."
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once"
-David Hume
However, as individual's rights end where another's begin, there are those who would say that since guns intrude upon so many others' rights (in the form of illegal assaults or murders) that guns, therefore, are contrary to the public good. What these people fail to realize, however, is that it is not the gun, but the criminal that has contributed to the detriment of the common good. To claim that guns, and therefore gun owners, are an affront to the common good is, more or less, a presumption of guilt upon all gun owners which is in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution's statement that we are "innocent until proven guilty."
Unfortunately, the "common good" as of late has come to be defined by the narrow interests of the political and social elite. You will note how often Republicans flaunt sentencing laws where their drug-addicted kids are involved. And look at how many Democrats preach gun eradication yet own multiple firearms and possess CCLs. The "common good" is no longer "common" or "good," but calling it "the tyranny of the rich and hypocritical" just doesn't have a nice enough ring to it.
that sounded quite impressive to the spin-doctors of
another era.
I can't find all by stuff on the constitution and etc,but isn't there something in there someplace about it being for the "commomn good"? Just what does the commom good mean to us in all this...how can it be for the common good and still leave us our "individual rights"/ Someone help me out here.....Please?
That phrase is interpreted by politicians to mean that the Bill of Rights and other guidelines put forth by the Founding Fathers are negated. It gives them full discretion to swindle the American public and buy votes.
Jacqueline
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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants and the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt (1783)
FS Ahhh,there yoou are,I've been waiting.....[;)]
I've been moving, but as you can tell, my new computer is up and running!
Jacqueline
www.gratuitouslylongdomainname.com
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants and the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt (1783)
THE TEN STEPS OF KARL MARX Taken from the Communist Manifesto
1) Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2) A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3) Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4) Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels.
5) Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6) Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
7) Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan
8) Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture
9) Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
10) Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
1.This goal has been fully implemented.
2.This goal has been fully implemented.
3.This goal is only partially implemented.
4.This goal has been fully implemented.
5.This goal has been fully implemented.
6.This goal is only partially implemented.
7.This goal is only partially implemented.
8.This goal is only partially implemented.
9.This goal is only partially implemented.
10.This goal has been fully implemented.
http://www.greaterthings.com/Constitution/Associates/10Marx_planks.htm
FS Glad to see yoou Up and Running!,I do look forward to your Logical line of thinking...i think....[;)]
BDJ....Yes I always liked the "Manifest Destiny" one myself...
To all ,I thank anyone for their input,it had just seemed that I could remember something about that.Guess I gotta get my books from storage....