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GOA & Nepotism?
tr fox
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For quite awhile now the NRA has taken a lot of criticisim here on this board.. And the fact that no other pro-gun rights organization has been brought up for criticism is almost proof that the NRA is the only player well known enough, big enough and strong enough to even bother complaining about. But it seems only fair to question how well other pro-gun organizations are doing and the Gun Owners of America might be one to examine.
Now please keep in mind that I am a dues paid member of the GOA. I haven't personally witnessed any good they have done for gun rights and I haven't even read in any of the numerous news publications the mention of the group, GOA. But from what I have heard from other people and members and the GOA newsletter I THINK they are doing good. At least the stories and ideas expressed in the GOA newsletter arre often times new and better ideas that I truly believe in. But here are a few questions that maybe someone will try and answer for me.
A slogan of the GOA is "no compromise since 1975" or words to that effect. Now my question is if the GOA has had no compromise since 1975 just who do we hold responsible for all those unwanted guns laws that have been enacted since 1975?
larry Pratt seems like a very capable executive director of GOA. But I am a little surprised that of all the other capable pro-gun people that were available to be promoted to executive level in the GOA, he apparently chose a close relative, Erich Pratt for director of communications.
People have complained about how much Wayne LaPierre of the NRA is paid. Have those same complainers checked to see how much Larry Pratt is paid, and what his pay ratio is compared to the numbers of dues paying members of the GOA and the amount of annual income for the GOA?
People say the NRA doesn't listen to them. A while back I wrote a letter addressed to Larry Pratt stating I had some new and different ideas to help with gun rights. I said if he was interested in taking a few minutes to read those ideas he might see something he might like and by showing that the GOA was interrested in new ideas and ideas from the rank & file, he could pickup three new members (myself who was not a member at the time, my daughter and grandson). Larry Pratt didn't even respond.
Again, I am not trying to do any harm to the GOA. I want it and EVERY pro-gun group to thrive. But if the NRA is going to be closely and critically examined on this forum, it only seems fair to do the same to the GOA and other pro-gun groups such as the 2nd Admendment Foundatation, etc., etc..
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Now please keep in mind that I am a dues paid member of the GOA. I haven't personally witnessed any good they have done for gun rights and I haven't even read in any of the numerous news publications the mention of the group, GOA. But from what I have heard from other people and members and the GOA newsletter I THINK they are doing good. At least the stories and ideas expressed in the GOA newsletter arre often times new and better ideas that I truly believe in. But here are a few questions that maybe someone will try and answer for me.
A slogan of the GOA is "no compromise since 1975" or words to that effect. Now my question is if the GOA has had no compromise since 1975 just who do we hold responsible for all those unwanted guns laws that have been enacted since 1975?
larry Pratt seems like a very capable executive director of GOA. But I am a little surprised that of all the other capable pro-gun people that were available to be promoted to executive level in the GOA, he apparently chose a close relative, Erich Pratt for director of communications.
People have complained about how much Wayne LaPierre of the NRA is paid. Have those same complainers checked to see how much Larry Pratt is paid, and what his pay ratio is compared to the numbers of dues paying members of the GOA and the amount of annual income for the GOA?
People say the NRA doesn't listen to them. A while back I wrote a letter addressed to Larry Pratt stating I had some new and different ideas to help with gun rights. I said if he was interested in taking a few minutes to read those ideas he might see something he might like and by showing that the GOA was interrested in new ideas and ideas from the rank & file, he could pickup three new members (myself who was not a member at the time, my daughter and grandson). Larry Pratt didn't even respond.
Again, I am not trying to do any harm to the GOA. I want it and EVERY pro-gun group to thrive. But if the NRA is going to be closely and critically examined on this forum, it only seems fair to do the same to the GOA and other pro-gun groups such as the 2nd Admendment Foundatation, etc., etc..
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
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20 years ago...I had a discussion with Pratt about taking the fight to the Socialists infesting this country..introducing bills rolling back gun laws..suing in court for the Second Amendment...
His reply.."Never work.cost too much..a good idea..but unworkable.."
The last time I saw him..his opinion was..its too late to stop the juggernaut.This was about 4-5 years ago.
All the above is paraphrased..Larry has more couth then me.
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
The last time I saw him..his opinion was..its too late to stop the juggernaut. This was about 4-5 years ago.
Given this, isn't Pratt's GOA salary like a doctor accepting payments for service 4-5 years after the patient has died?
KABA fights...spent all their money on a 2nd Amend Court Case and is about flat broke right now.
I joined when I heard that hence the picture below.
They've got very few members so I doubt whomever is in charge of it is making a living solely off of running KABA.com.
Larry Pratt is a knight in Shining Armor,compared to those at the NRA,busily compromising away my rights.
Notice I said MY rights..since many gun-owners appear to believe they only have priviledges.
I truly weary of these exchanges..but those engaged in trading away rights never rest..and their defenders never rest either.
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
trfox,Understand your point and a good one,will see...does anyone have answers to fox's questions?It is Just and fitting that we should qustion ALL of those that "claim" to defend OUR RIGHTS. With that I agree,fox GOA makes it all easier in my opinion in so far as sending letters,emails etc.Now A quetion for you ,Just because no one is Hurrahing(or daming) the GOA that means that their members are ineffective?YOu think that all the letters,emails and phone calls by GOA members do not affect an election? True NRA has or had more money to throw at them,but in the end isn't it THE VOTE that matters?Isn't that what you all have been saying all along,to get THE VOTE out.....I would belong to them both as well friend,but ...well you KNOW the rest....L.H.
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Wherein in my post did you get the idea that Pratt 'gave up without a fight" ??
The man has been in the trenches for..30 years ? or so...and even given his mindset today..still taking your 'soft fight' to the enemy.
The man is laying the groundwork for eventually other men throwing up their hands and proclaiming.." ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.."...
This man is TIRED of compromising..as is JPFO..and will get a nice spot in the history books as a defender of Freedom in America..assuming we win.
The NRA will be a case study of powerful organizations that are turned into Judas goats.
And another, you yourself stated that the NRA is the only player. Seems obvious to me who we blame all these post '75 laws on. Let's help GOA become a player and see what happens.
Ya.......What he said!!!!!!
"I dont care how thin you make a pancake, it still has two sides"
"A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows.