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Harley-Philes?

interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
edited December 2003 in General Discussion
I saw the Harley V-rod special on TV again the other night. I came to the same conclusion as I did the first time, I think the bike sucks. Other than the fact that it has an awesome powerplant I think it is about as un Harley as you can get. What your opinion of the V-rod?


JC

Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I don't like it but I HAVE seen a bunch of them on the road. I guess SOMEBODY likes it.

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are quite a few other motorcycle manufactures that have tried to imitate Harley, by making a bike that tries to look and sound like a Harley. Is the V-rod the product of returning the favor?
    I am NOT a V-rod fan.


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  • greeker375greeker375 Member Posts: 3,644
    edited November -1
    Can't disagree on the looks...

    Have spoken to some V-Rod owners and they seem to love'em, but, a local dealer had 2 still on the floor and was offering them at about $17K each.

    But, they scoot right along.


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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    The V-Rod is Harleys answer to the sport bike, Light, lots of Power, water cooled, I guess they wanted into the sport bike market, as a Harley owner for years, I think its ugly and disgusting,[:o)]

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  • hawkeye6020hawkeye6020 Member Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't like the looks of it either but i think the power plant is here to stay. I have seen a couple in the bike mags that have been customised that look a lot better. They have been advertising them around here for below list with no interest.
  • jwhardingjwharding Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not going over to well around here. I think they are to high priced for the type people who wants them. Young kids can't aford them. I believe there's three on the show room floor here, and they have been marked down.
    I really don't care for them, they simply don't look like a Harley. I was impressed with the show and how they tested them for heat trouble and endurance.
    I haven't heard how they compare on the quater mile track with some of the Jap bikes, anyone know?
    JW

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I believe they'll run the 1/4 mile in the mid eleven-second range. Fast for an HD but not very fast for an 1100cc sport bike.

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

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    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • DIRTYRATDIRTYRAT Member Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothin I'd ever want! The only custom ones I've seen just had a custom paint-job on them. I don't think there is too much you can do with them with all that frame sticking out everywhere...Kinda reminds me of a slicked out Ducati...[xx(]

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  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sat on one while at the Harley Dealer a while back.
    It just ain't for me. Wife don't like it either.
    That was an excellent show on the V-Rod, however, I agree with jwharding, it was made for whippersnappers,,,who can't afford one, but can afford one of them jap crotchrockets[:o)].

    ,,,sod

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    WOW! Riding for 17 years, huh? I guess that really DOES make you an expert.[:D]

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

    Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets

    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Friggin forgive your two wheeled superior for only being born in 1970, maybe when I get older I will be as wise as you and buy a slow hunk of chrome.

    Sorry I freaking offened you, I'll delete it your majesty.

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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by interstatepawnllc

    Harley-Philes?

    I believe Michael Jackson regularly sleeps with an eight yearold Dyna Glide.
  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    7mm nut, don't sweat the small stuff. There's always someone out there who has done something longer than you, BUT, they're a lot closer to the grave than you are too![;)]
    Relax, you'll have a long time to get your riding in while they are taking a dirt nap.
    Oh yeah, I watched the show too, I agree, its built tough, but butt ugly.

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  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It looks like the results from a crash between a jap bike and a plumbers truck. I'll stick with my FXSTB.
  • DIRTYRATDIRTYRAT Member Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trap55, I got a 99 FXSTB[8D]

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Only born in 1970 but you already have all the answers to all the questions. How many Harleys have you owned? None? That's what I thought. But I've seen you, over the past year or more, explain every minute detail of what is wrong with them, every reason why other people would chose to ride them and you never hesitate to slam them, all the while telling such ridiculous fabrications as (and I'm paraphrasing here): "I love to go screaming past a big bunch of hard-core bikers, pull a wheelie at 100 miles-per-hour and give 'em all the finger." First, it shows how immature you are and; second, to anybody who rides, it shows what a vivid imagination you have. I would immediately ignore anything (and everything) I ever heard about motorcycles from anybody who ever told me a bullsheet story like that.

    And as far as having more riding time left because of your young age, don't bet on it. If only 1% of the crap you spout is true you'll be wrapped around a pole while I'm still cruising down the road on my "slow hunk of chrome." I WILL probably pay an increased insurance premium because of lunatics like you. Assuming you HAVE insurance.

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

    Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets

    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
    quote:Originally posted by interstatepawnllc

    Harley-Philes?

    I believe Michael Jackson regularly sleeps with an eight yearold Dyna Glide.
    Did ya have to bring up the "King of Kinkdom"?


    JC

    Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.
  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think this id kinda purty.[:p]

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lowrider, everyone else out here can take humor and picking, but you, my god when it comes to your scoot you can take no ribbing whatsoever. if you remember when most of that was going on I was funnin the heck out of Mudge, you take it to dang serious. My god it is only a friggin bike, not the holy grail, a friggin bike.

    Ohh, and owning a Harley, haha never! I made the comment to a member yesterday about a Harley that was won at a raffle, the winner took the money instead of the bike and I called him a good man. The member said something to the effect of , "your nuts, take the money?" I said yep, either that or take it straight to the Suzuki shop and trade it for a something I want. A comment you made before about those who cannot afford Harleys are the ones like me who always rag on them, well bud I wouldnt care if it was free, I don't want one mainly because of the attitude of alot of the Harley owners, sorta like yours.

    Now, how do you like me now?


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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Hey gramps, you gotta a new Road King??


    JC

    Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DIRTYRAT...2000 TC88B, Whites lowered,Hooker 2-1,Screamin Eagle.
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  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by interstatepawnllc
    Hey gramps, you gotta a new Road King??


    JC

    Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.


    Naw, that's my kid's. That's him and his pickup reflected on it. He was here this week, and left without cleaning guns. Kid's getting lazy, took me most of last evening to catch up.

    Whudumeengramps?[:(!]

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  • interstatepawnllcinterstatepawnllc Member Posts: 9,390
    edited November -1
    Well my friend, you sure would look good on it. Maybe if your a GOOD boy next year Santa will bestow one upon you. I am going to email you a pic of my 2000 FXSTB. If you can please post it under Pawns 2000 FXSTB and as you already know, it's for sale also. Thanks Scott.


    JC

    Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.
  • toolmaniamtoolmaniam Member Posts: 3,213
    edited November -1
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    Yamaha V-Star Custom
    Better quality and half the price.[;)]

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    And worth about a thousand bucks five years from now.

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

    Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets

    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • toolmaniamtoolmaniam Member Posts: 3,213
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
    And worth about a thousand bucks five years from now.


    I knew I could ruffle some feathers with that picture.[:D]

    A dead intruder cannot testify against you in a court of law!

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  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What three things still maintain a positive net worth after being worn, shot, or rode?


    Gold, Guns & Harleys![;)]


    Trinity +++


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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have it on good authority that the V-Rod engine (ie. water-cooled), is what you'll be seeing on all H-D's in the near future. Big Brother is making it more and more difficult for air cooled engines to pass emissions regulations. Protecting us from ourselves again. When do we march on DC to take our country back? Hope I'll be around. I'd love to go.

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I agree with you except I don't think it will be the same 1100cc engine, but it WILL be that style (overhead cam, liquid-cooled, 60-degree V-twin) of engine. There's no way that the V-Rod engine develops enough low-end torque to power a fully-loaded ElectraGlide with two passengers. They're going to need more cubic inches for that application.

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

    Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets

    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by toolmaniam
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    Yamaha V-Star Custom
    Better quality and half the price.[;)]

    A dead intruder cannot testify against you in a court of law!

    If they're still moving, put another round in them!

    I know you're just having fun here,,,so no flame from me.
    However,,,riding a motorcycle that looks like a Harley but isn't one?[:o)]
    Doesn't that compare to these women that bounce around bursting at the seams with those huge breast implants???
    It sorta looks the same,,,sorta feels the same(so i'm told),,,but it aint the same,,, 'cause they aint real!!!

    ,,,sod
    p.s. I know I'm not good with analagies,,but do you get the picture??

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  • plains scoutplains scout Member Posts: 4,563
    edited November -1
    Okay I tried to stay out of this one, but can not resist. Harley's? Have had two of them. The little ones -- you know the 883 and the 1200. Great fun bikes, but kept blowing head gaskets [:(]-- not made for long distance high speed. I do want a Fat Boy someday, when I want to ride no more than 50 miles in a day, park it in front of the bar and have girls quiver at my ride. But that is for later in life when I slow down.[:D]

    I am on my 4th BMW now, and lovin it. It matches the style that I like to ride and I can ride for hundreds of miles day after day after day. The performance in the corners is awesome. But when I park it by the bar girls just look at it and think What is that thing? (The bike not me [8D])

    So if it has two wheels and a motor, I don't really care, each to their own. Just remember that all good things start with "B"

    For example: Beer, Bikes, Bait, Bullets, and Babes. He haw![:p]
  • Rebel_JamesRebel_James Member Posts: 4,746
    edited November -1
    I don't like the V-Rod, both the looks and sound. I realize HD built that engine knowing they'll have to eventualy go with something like it because of the EPA regulations.

    Something I've noticed about bike bashers. Most all of the time, it's the anti-HD riders that start it. There's even a website totally devoted to bashing Harleys. I know of no HD website's that are like that.

    I ride a '93 1200 Sportster, custom tanks, bars, pipes, etc. Even some HD riders think it's a LowRider till they look closer. It ain't for sale, but I'll bet if I did sell it, it would bring more than any other nonHD bike made in '93.

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  • jwhardingjwharding Member Posts: 2,897 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by plains scout
    Okay I tried to stay out of this one, but can not resist. Harley's? Have had two of them. The little ones -- you know the 883 and the 1200. Great fun bikes, but kept blowing head gaskets [:(]-- not made for long distance high speed. I do want a Fat Boy someday, when I want to ride no more than 50 miles in a day, park it in front of the bar and have girls quiver at my ride. But that is for later in life when I slow down.[:D]

    I am on my 4th BMW now, and lovin it. It matches the style that I like to ride and I can ride for hundreds of miles day after day after day. The performance in the corners is awesome. But when I park it by the bar girls just look at it and think What is that thing? (The bike not me [8D])

    So if it has two wheels and a motor, I don't really care, each to their own. Just remember that all good things start with "B"

    For example: Beer, Bikes, Bait, Bullets, and Babes. He haw![:p]





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  • Rebel_JamesRebel_James Member Posts: 4,746
    edited November -1
    Plains Scout, I'm glad you're happy with your BMW. If you like what you're riding, that's fine, just RIDE.

    As for blowing the head gaskets on the Sportsters, (or rather, the rocker box gaskets), there's a reason I learned the hard way. You've got to warm up a Sportster slow, letting it idle till the rockers are warm to the touch. I always let mine run for a couple of minutes on the day's first start up. You can't just jump on and ride like you can your BMW.

    Not made for long trips? I've ridden to Myrtle Beach 4 times, 350 miles one way, Daytona twice, 500 miles one way, and Panama City once, 350 miles one way. On the trip home from Panama City, I'm not admitting to how fast we were riding, but there was only one vehicle, a Chevy pickup, that passed us. There was 4 of us on that trip, a 2000 Softail, a '95 Softail, a '93 Fatboy, and my '93 Sportster.

    I haven't learned how to post pics here yet. If any of you are interested in seeing a pic of my HD, go to www.sportster.org
    Click on "Boutique", then type in Miss Scarlet in the description line.

    I ride what I want, you ride what you want, no problem....JUST RIDE!!

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  • plains scoutplains scout Member Posts: 4,563
    edited November -1
    Rebel

    I think there was more of a problem with the operator than the Sportster in regard to the head gasket blowing (racing carb, cross over pipe off, long range hard sustained high speed riding, etc.).

    I actually switched to the BMW after a friend let me ride his from LA to Tombstone and back. The riding position just fit my comfort zone better than the Harley and the "style" that I ride was more conducive to the BMW. I started with a 77 R100RS, then a 96 R1100RS (which my son "stole" from me), then a 94 R100GSPD (looked like a giant dirt bike) and now a canyon racer/road cruiser 03 R1150R.

    I do like the Harleys and those that ride them not trailer them. Do you ever make it to the Stugis Rally? Everyone should do it once in their life. My favorite ride is to Saloon #10 and play poker while Wild Bill's chair sits empty in honor of the great shootist.


    I agree completely. RIDE, just RIDE. It is cheaper than thearpy.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I take at least one long trip every summer on my Harley and usually more than one. By long trip I mean 3, 4 or 5000 miles or more. When on a trip I NEVER ride less than 600 miles in a day and never ride the interstate highways; always do the trip on the two-lane backroads. Last fall we finished up a 6000-mile tour around the southwest by riding home non-stop from Cedar City, Utah; over 1200 miles of backroads in about 21 hours. Most Harley riders I associate with have similar riding habits.

    Plains Scout: I don't know where you got the idea that Harleys were only good for 50 miles per day but evidently you aren't talking to the right Harley people. The good folks who ride BMWs really like to ride them and really like to rack up the miles but they aren't the only bikers on the road that cover the long distances.

    Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.

    Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets

    She was only a fisherman's daughter,
    But when she saw my rod she reeled.
  • cletus85cletus85 Member Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    This is the 2002 1200 custom that I rode 3402 mile before I got tired of the rough ride. Don't get me wrong the first 2000 miles I was in heaven[:D][:D] Then I rode a friends Deuce and Fatboy[V] Should have stayed off of them bikes. I later bought a 2003 V-Star 1100 Classic a nice ride, no doubt about it, but it doesn't compare to the Fatboy that it looks sort of like.
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