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Have to shoot a hog

use enough gunuse enough gun Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭
edited December 2017 in General Discussion
Ok guys here's the deal. My neighbor has one of these all natural animal farms and she asked me to come over and shoot a 285 pig when the butcher gets there. It's inside a building and I need to 'poleaxe' this critter with one shot to the head. If it was outside I'd just give it one from my BFR but as it's inside I don't want a bullet bouncing around the building.
I was thinking of using my single six in .22 and put one in the earhole. Thoughts, or have a better idea?
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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    General advice:draw an X from ear hole to opposite eye socket and hit on the "X". If shooting a pig while standing above it, aim a wee bit above(behind) the X and as close to 90* to the skull as possible. I'd prefer a 22lr rifle with HVHP to a handgun. The local butcher uses a 22WMR rifle w/HP ammo.
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  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,459 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    my grampa allways used a rifle, he would put a little food in the trough then lean over the pen and put the rifle as close as possible to it head and shoot....... right between the eyes just back a few inches, they would just fall in their tracks.
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  • dbain99dbain99 Member Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've shot a few and watched many more. .22lr out of a pistol will drop em with a single shot about half the time. .22lr generally gets the job done, .22mag is the king and I haven't seen one hp over penetration so I wouldn't worry much about that. Wear glasses and aim between the eyes a couple inches up from a foot away.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mobuck nailed it. Put down pan with water or food, shoot from straight in front. Have used a 22 rifle for years, and Dad before me. Put a 22LR in the X, and they drop like a puppet with cut strings.
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  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Local butcher uses .22 magnum rifle with solids (not HP) for BIG steers. That's what I'd use. I don't think you'd have to worry about ricochets (unless you miss!).
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  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hillbille
    my grampa allways used a rifle, he would put a little food in the trough then lean over the pen and put the rifle as close as possible to it head and shoot....... right between the eyes just back a few inches, they would just fall in their tracks.
    Same thing my Dad did!...22 lr between the eyes...
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes x marks the spot.
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  • use enough gunuse enough gun Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks guys. I'm going to take my 10-22 and my .22 Hornet and give the butcher the choice.
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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You don't have to actually draw the X. Just visualize where the X would be if you did draw one.
    6JGhtGy.jpg
    X marks the spot.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ya don?t want to kill it right away! Stun it but keep the heart beating and stick it with a juglar knife, get it nose down verticle with a pan to catch the blood, let it bleed itself out. Now some will cry foul but the best tasting meat come from an animal that was calm and bled. It is barbaric and animal lovers will freak out like mad but a sledge hammer to the noggin and a cut juglar is how my G Grandpa did it at his butcher shop.
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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If she has a butcher coming out, most likely he'll do the sticking. I've never seen one not bleed after being shot and stuck. I don't think you'll catch the blood in a pan. I'd just shoot the hog and let the butcher do the butchering.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Watched a video the other day of a guy consistently making one shot kills on hogs with a .22. He shot in the temple, centered between the ear and the eye, every one was DRT.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Justin Rhodes on youtube did the pig slaughter tutorial a while back. I've seen pistols and rifles used to deliver the 22 "between the eyes" (more or less) then knife the vein while it's still "kicking a bit".

    The thing I don't get is why the butcher don't get all killy? Extra charge your neighbor don't wanna spend? I'd think the butcher would have a bolt gun "No Country For Old Men".

    Big Sky Redneck - Damn going old school with a sledge "knocker".
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  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Slaughter houses used to have a stout fellow standing straddle the chute, animal would come walking down the chute and ka pow, a sledge hammer to the forehead, DRT. Bolt guns do the work now.
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  • use enough gunuse enough gun Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I used my .22 Hornet. Dead before he hit the ground the butcher was right there with a knife to bleed him. I told him I just want to see the skull tomorrow to check bullet performance.
    She wants me to come back in January, she's got a 900lb. boar to take care of.
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    900 pounder, next? 300 pounder got the .22 Hornet so what's 3X of the Hornet? I'm thinking a solid copper projectile to get through that noggin.
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  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    900 pounder, next? 300 pounder got the .22 Hornet so what's 3X of the Hornet? I'm thinking a solid copper projectile to get through that noggin.


    28oz. Estwing Framing Axe[:D]
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  • IdahoboundIdahobound Member Posts: 20,587 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well no else said it but use enough gun.
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  • use enough gunuse enough gun Member Posts: 1,443 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Idahobound
    Well no else said it but use enough gun.


    I'd love to use my BFR in 45/70 but this is being done inside with concrete floors. I need the bullet to stay inside the brain pan.
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  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Grandpa Brooks used to shoot em tween the eyes, take a big ole knife and throat cut em, granny would catch that in a pan.

    Us young ins would scrap the hide.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by use enough gun
    quote:Originally posted by Idahobound
    Well no else said it but use enough gun.


    I'd love to use my BFR in 45/70 but this is being done inside with concrete floors. I need the bullet to stay inside the brain pan.


    A round of .45-70 at "Trapdoor" pressure might be held in the 900 pound pig's brain pan.

    Kind a curious about the 5.7FN VS pig skull at point blank.
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  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Right between the eyes is best. A few years ago we were butchering a hog. My uncle instructed his son to shoot it right between the eyes. Well my cousin picked up his 1911, and racked a 230gr gold dot into the chamber. Like always he knew more then his dad, took careful aim and shot the hog right behind the ear. Needless to say, the hog was not impressed, and a good ole fashioned ball peen hammer ended it.
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  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,768 ******
    edited November -1
    It has been many years but back when my soon to be FIL invited me to watch him dispatch a steer he had raised.

    He was one of those big city born folks who escaped the riots of the 60's to become a "gentleman farmer" out here in God's country.

    Anyway, this is no hog story but one I will never forget.

    He used his Winchester 94 30\30 rifle and placed a shot nearly point blank at the steers forehead, between the eyes.

    The cow just stood there after the shot, didn't even show any signs of diress!

    The worst part was that he had only loaded the rifle with one round and had to run into the house for more ammo!
    After what seemed like a very long time, but in reallity was just a few minutes, he took the next shot at the steers temple, just under the ear and it's 4 legs buckled out in all directions and it dropped like a very large sack of potato's.

    Evidentally, bovine skulls are quite a bit thicker than hogs.
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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    You don't have to actually draw the X. Just visualize where the X would be if you did draw one.
    6JGhtGy.jpg
    X marks the spot.


    Damn James, you ruined it!!!! We all wanted to hear how he tried to draw an X on its forehead, as he rode it around the barn.
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    True story: Years ago I worked on a local farm that was sort of a greenhouses and petting zoo and fall hayrides and Christmas trees kind of place. They had animals and such, but it was more of a come visit place than a growing place. Every spring we'd get a bunch of animals, pigs and cows and such, and they'd grow and fatten all summer and fall, and in the early winter when the season was over we'd sell them to a slaughterhouse. Some guys would come out with trailers and take them away.

    One year the farmer, a very nice man but a fellow who always seemed to slightly muck up everything just a little bit, decided to keep one of the pigs. It looked quite good, and one of the hired men said he was a good amateur butcher and could provide many pounds of chops and such. Everybody agreed that was a good deal, and the only sticking point was the hired man said he would NOT kill the pig. He'd tried once or twice, had a bad experience, and that somebody else would have to do that job.

    The pig probably knew something was up because all the other animals had been hauled away and he was left, and there was a whole bunch of guys standing around watching. The farmer got into the pen with a hammer behind his back, and sort of sweet-talked his way up to the pig. The pig honestly looked like he knew something was up and was sort of shying away, and then the farmer whipped the hammer out and cracked the pig right in the head.

    Everybody, including the pig, took in a deep breath and froze, and then all hell broke loose. The pig took off like a shot, racing around the pen with blood shooting out of its head, and the all the farm hands started yelling and screaming, and the farmer suddenly realized he had done a significant injury to a 300 pound animal and had not killed it. He took another couple swings at the pig ran by, and he yelled at all of us to help, and with all the yelling and cussing and fussing the farmer's wife came running over.

    She'd agreed to killing and butchering the pig, but for damn sure hadn't agreed to a WWE cage match fight to the death, and started voicing some very strong opinions about how the pig killing was going.

    At this point the farmer decided this is just nuts, and he decided he needed to turn things up to 11 to get the job done. So he runs over to one of the farm trucks, jumps in, and roars down the road to the local gun shop. He goes racing through the front door, covered with blood and holding a bloody hammer, and he yells at the clerk, "Hurry, I need to buy a gun! I need to buy a gun!"
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  • Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
    edited November -1
    The 'X' works on basically all of the hoofed animals.[8D]
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember we raised a hog one year. When it came time to slaughter, my Dad went out back with the 22LR and 'intended' to kill the hog. He missed the 'X' and then we just had us a pissed off hog!

    We finally killed that hog, but it wasn't easy...

    Moral of the story: Don't miss the 'X'...
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  • pulsarncpulsarnc Member Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    22 LR at the x always did the job for us when we killed hogs
    cry Havoc and let slip  the dogs of war..... 
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