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We Should Do This, Just To Make It Fair!
Alpine
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I recieved this in an email:
Received the following from (Tom O'Malley) who was a Director with SW
BELL in Mexico.
You remember I spent five years working in Mexico.
I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew
it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was
technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.
During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to
secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US
passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized
originals (not copies) of my:
1 Birth certificate for Barbara and I.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of
graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at
least one year.
6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no
arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen
in good standing."
7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why
there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were
important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on
Earth" letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above were in English that had to be translated into
Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures
notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English
on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours
accompanied by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government
office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least
three times. At each location and we remember at least four locations
we instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that
we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences.
We could not protest any of the Governments actions or we would
be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees
and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could
legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs
in Loredo Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in
Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees
involved here that the company paid.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates
and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing
process. The company arranged for the Licensing agency to come to our
Headquarters location with their photography and finger print
equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license,
were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license
instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or
driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was
never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were
instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp.
If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the
number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican
accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared.
It was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after
paying more fees.
Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were
leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants,
tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman went
through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to
keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at
their White house or government offices but do protest daily in
front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a
strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican
Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to
shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy.
These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a
large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in
California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being
hard on illegal immigrants.
Received the following from (Tom O'Malley) who was a Director with SW
BELL in Mexico.
You remember I spent five years working in Mexico.
I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew
it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was
technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.
During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to
secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US
passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized
originals (not copies) of my:
1 Birth certificate for Barbara and I.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of
graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at
least one year.
6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no
arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen
in good standing."
7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why
there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were
important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on
Earth" letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above were in English that had to be translated into
Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures
notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English
on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours
accompanied by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government
office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least
three times. At each location and we remember at least four locations
we instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that
we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences.
We could not protest any of the Governments actions or we would
be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees
and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could
legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs
in Loredo Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in
Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees
involved here that the company paid.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates
and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing
process. The company arranged for the Licensing agency to come to our
Headquarters location with their photography and finger print
equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license,
were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license
instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or
driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was
never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were
instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp.
If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the
number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican
accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared.
It was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after
paying more fees.
Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were
leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants,
tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman went
through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to
keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at
their White house or government offices but do protest daily in
front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a
strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican
Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to
shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy.
These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a
large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in
California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being
hard on illegal immigrants.
?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Comments
The illegals coming here have NOTHING to do with the Mexican government! Sheesh......it annoys me to no end that people keep griping about how restrictive the Mexican government is. WHY do you think the illegals want to come HERE instead of THERE?
Duh.........
Merc (who has been trying not to rant about this.....)
Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in
California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being
hard on illegal immigrants.
Protesting this in mehico? Seems they already believe it's already theirs...and I'm not too sure it's not!!!