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A brief history lesson
dheffley
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At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior.
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:
Population of counties won by:
Gore=127 million
Bush=143 million
Square miles of land won by:
Gore=580,000
Bush=2,2427,000
States won by:
Gore=19
Bush=29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore=13.2
Bush=2.1
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the! territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."
Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
How you doin'!
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:
Population of counties won by:
Gore=127 million
Bush=143 million
Square miles of land won by:
Gore=580,000
Bush=2,2427,000
States won by:
Gore=19
Bush=29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore=13.2
Bush=2.1
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the! territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."
Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
How you doin'!
Comments
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AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY
To sum it up, liberals live in cities, and we can thank them for the mess. And basically it's us country/rural folks supporting the mess makers. I don't know about you but I'm about fed up with the mess makers.
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"If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace" -Thomas Paine
If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.
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God Bless America and...
NEVER Forget WACO
NEVER, EVER Forget 911
Gore won 20 states, not 19.
Bush won 30, not 29.
Addressing Gore's more violent voter population, let's see the figures:
Bush won Texas... the state with the highest prisoner population in the United States (DoJ figures from 1998). The number of people under criminal justice control (ie, probation, incarceration, etc.) was 700,000. These figures rate Texas as having the highest proportion of lawbreakers in the United States.
The most violent cities in the U.S. circa 2000? Here are the top 5 with violent crimes per 100,000 and which candidate they ultimately voted for.
St Louis, MO (150.2, Bush with 51% of the vote)
Atlanta, GA (122.4, Bush with 55% of the vote)
Kansas City, MO (112.5, Bush with 51% of the vote)
Tampa, FL (111.9, Bush with 50% of the vote)
Memphis, TN (99.8, Bush with 51% of the vote)
Bush also laid claim to 59% of the rural vote (as opposed to Gore's 39%), so the notion that Gore's territory laid claim to a higher proportion of welfare recipients is ludicrous.
In 2000, farm aid subsidies (ie, rural welfare) accounted for $30 billion dollars of the government budget as opposed to the $25 million in Federal Temporary Assistance.
So, if we look at the hard facts, Bush's territory, not Gore's, represented the criminals and the welfare recipients.
So much for that presentation.
NOTE: Information was taken from Bureau of Justice records, CNN exit polls from the 2000 election, and Census Bureau records.
God Bless America and...
NEVER Forget WACO
NEVER, EVER Forget 911
Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
How you doin'!
I do believe we are goin' down the crapper.We have definatly passed our peak.
I am accused of being a pessimist but in reality I am a realist.I mean,can any of you really see America returning to what it once was?Land of the free,home of the brave.I like to think that we could obtain that again ,but how?Continuing to vote for the lesser of TWO EVILS is not going to cut it.A third party has not even been mentioned I don't think.[:(!]
Muggster
http://www.sos.state.ga.us/elections/results/2000_1107/0000100.htm
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.