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faldum
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Kindly read this discussion, currently running
on the GUN RIGHTS BOARD....
Mr Perkins needs our help.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39552
on the GUN RIGHTS BOARD....
Mr Perkins needs our help.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39552
Comments
I read the whole thing, believe it or not, and I think he's where he belongs. Just my opinion.
Clouder..
JuJu (more to this than is being said)
My heros have always killed cowboys.
Gun control is a steady hand
and assuming he applied for a renewal in a timely
manner, it should be asked why the application was
not processed in an expedient manner.
Mr. Perkins had (during the re-application period)
requested permission to legally transfer his stock
to another dealer.
He stated he was also repeatedly given verbal re-assurances
that "everything was going OK" when the renewal process
was dragging on.
I quess I am a bit uncomfortable with the brevity of
the time frame between when sworn testimony was given to the
magistrate and the "mystery package" delivery and seizure.
Many GB members might be well served to take note of the
sentencing judge's attitude on "assault weapons."
Mr. Perkins swears he did not request or pay for the
"mystery package" which is presumed to be some sort of
"assault weapon."
This seems to be the most disturbing part of this incident.
At this point, blunt, in your face-type questions (like one could expect on cross examination by a good attorney) are desperately
solicited.
Having read Mr. Perkins' web page and many local news accounts
of his political activities, a gut feeling tells me there is
more to this story than meets the eye.
He appeared much too knowledgeable to knowingly let something
like this get over on him through normal, law-abiding means.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
My heros have always killed cowboys.
News Graphic appeared to be somewhat sympathetic
to Mr. Perkins, whose name is quite familiar
due to his often probing letters to the editor
and political aspirations
The typical "evil firearm" paranoia is refreshingly absent.
One reporter even takes a subtle poke at Mr. Perkins'
lawyer.
In one of his prior posts, Mr. Perkins makes reference to
one of the witnesses giving false testimony.
If proven, a retrial (or dismissal of charges) should be
immediately ordered.
http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/print.gunshopowners.htm
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, not liberty to purchase power."
Benjamin Franklin, 1785
and a few mavericks,refusing to blend with the herd..talking futiley about freedom,the Constitution..all that stuff that is meaningless anymore...
The things history is made of..the ending of the greatest nation on earth..doomed to end by those unwilling to break the mind-chains placed on them by their intellectial superiors....
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
longhunter: well said
faldum: well said and great timing.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Who does he think he is anyway??
An AMERICAN???
Surely he didn't think the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" had any real meaning!!
It's painfully apparent that they don't on THIS forum!!
If he'd just stuck to hunting deer and ducks he wouldn't even NEED an FFL.
That's a good point!
Who really NEEDS an FFL anyway??
Private citizens dealing in firearms??
How can we keep the children truly safe when we allow that sort of EXTREMIST activity?
Only the government and our "public servants" should be allowed to have guns!!
So, if the BATF says he's bad then that's just good enough for some here at gunbroker huh??
Now you get the gist of it,bud.....
And I used to spend time wondering how in the world Hitler took over a nation of supposedly intelligent adults...
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
#1. Is it possible some members of a US Govt. agency (BATE, FBI, etc) could seriously violate some innocent citizens rights? I think every reasonable person would agree it is at least possible they could.
#2. WOULD they actually do it? That part is being debated. But knowing human nature I feel confident that there have been intentional and serious violations somewhere sometime. And keep in mind I have recently worked with at least one federal agent.
#3. Do I or any of the people here have iron-clad, absolute proof, beyond a doubt, that there have been violations? Of course not! If we had such proof the debate would now be about what are we going to do about it. The debate would no longer be about whether or not it actually happend. But to be exact there will always be a few people who refuse to believe their government would turn on them, to the point that even if it happened to their own mother, they would refuse to believe it happened. Instead they would blame their mother for what happened.
#4. If a govt. agency did on occassion violate an innocent citizen's rights is it likely it would be done often and in a widespread manner? Of course not! If it was then see #3. Most of us would know and believe it was actually happening and would try and do something about it.
#5. So it appears to me from a reasonable stand point, that the BATE, for just one example, could violate the law occassionaly and even if the story about this violation was circulated among the public, most of the public would refuse to believe it. That could be, just could be, what is happening right here and now. Because remember, there are not just one, but several stories of such violations and they are not muddled with only partial names or locations or dates. ALL the information is avilable in the event anyone wants to check into it and prove it wrong instead of just having an opinion it is wrong.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Longhunter you could be right because I know how "good ol boy politicks" works here in KY. Also Georgetown Ky is mostly run by Toyota Manufacturing. It is their own little "company town" so to speak. Toyota is very anti-gun.
We have two sides on this topic. One side, to varying degrees, thinks the ATFE (and all govt. agencies) would never, never violate an honest citizen's rights. The other side thinks that the ATFE (and other agencies) have already and continue to on occassion seriously violate innocent citizens rights. Now here is the interesting fact I have noticed and I truly would like some comments and feedback to help me.
It seems all the believers in no violations by a govt. agency provide limited "evidence" such as statements like "I have been a FFL dealer for 20 years and the BATFE has treated me great" or "Do you really think the BATFE has time to sit around and think of ways to violate citizens rights?" Now here is the part that interests me.
People like ForGodAndCountry and Faldum post actual names, dates, places, govt. agency involved and the actions that took place in which they claim there were williful and evil violations by the ATFE (and other agencies). I would assume a non-believer in govt. misconduct could investigate this information and truly determine if the outrageous acts were true. But none of the "non-believers" have done this to my knowledge. Is this a conflict in reason or not? Just asking.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.