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How do you defend yourself...

SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
against a person or group that is verbally attacking you and hitting way below the belt?
I could respond in kind, and drag out some of their dirty laundry (they have much more than i do) but then I would be stooping to their level.
But to ignore them might make some people think the statements are true.
it's that old belief that if you argue too much it's because you have something to hide.
I've discussed it with my lawyer who wants to sue them for slander (or some such thing) but I'm not ready to spend alot of money in leagal fees.
there's some level heads here, what would you do?
thanks
tom
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  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A blowtorch to the face and/or genitals usually shuts people up real quick.
  • swampwalkerswampwalker Member Posts: 440 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stick your tongue out and make that pfffffffffft noise at them.

    I'm facing something similar at work. I know where you're coming from. I have no answers since I'm not even able to help myself at this moment.
  • War Pig ActualWar Pig Actual Member Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your attorney feels strongly enough about your case, ask him or her to work on contingency.

    Other than that, .308s can solve most issues.
  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's a shame that projectile vomiting is such a tough skill to master.
  • MgderfMgderf Member Posts: 907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trauma to the groin!
  • 7RiverMan77RiverMan7 Member Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    E-mail your moderator and tell on them.
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    i'd start by having a subscription of fag mag sent to their place of employment in their name[;)][:D]
  • mousemouse Member Posts: 3,624
    edited November -1
    If they are your friend they'll ask you point blank if it's true or
    not. If they aren't a true friend, who cares. Sticks and stones...
    let it go. Don't stoop to their level. Just ignore them. I've
    found that the mealy mouthed gossips are immature, don't have
    enough work to do, jealous, or just plain vidictive little rats.
    Who needs em. Do your job and go home. Keep a smile on your
    face. Why get bent out of shape over it?
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    tom...always remember ...revenge feels good![8D]
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you have a case and they have money sue them.

    If you don't have a case or they don't have money, sink to their level.

    Best I can do.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    thanks for all the advice and laughs!
    I like the art of war quote.
    the problem is that I'm leaving "the company" and will be in direct competition with them when I start my own practice.
    there is potentially alot of green at stake, on both sides.
    I truly believe that the attacks will get worse as time goes on.
    if i do nothing, the people that know me well will still be there, but others might start to believe the garbage.
    I guess it bothers me so much because it's not the way i behave.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Sun Tsu.

    Highly recommended.

    Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical. If it is to your advantage, make a forward move; if not, stay where you are. Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may be succeeded by content.
    - Sun Tzu


    Ditto...
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You'll probably figure out what course of action to take one way or the other in due time.
    What's next?
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    If you know their email address, go to createafart.com and send them a nice juicy one. [:p][xx(]
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the matter is strictly personal, smile quietly, think whatever you like about their momma, and walk away. Nobody keeps score when you are over 10 yrs of age.

    Now, if this is a business matter, falsely alleging lack of skill, unethical behavior, etc, that is not personal, that is money. If the allegations are completely untrue, and likely to cause you financial harm, have your attorney send them a letter, advising that continued conduct will be seen as actionable, directing them to cease and desist. IF you DO have to sue them at a later time, continuing that behavior after having been put on notice MAY trigger punitive damages.

    Sun Tzu had good advice. So did my Mom "Stir something long enough, you'll get some on you."
  • IngallsIngalls Member Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:the problem is that I'm leaving "the company" and will be in direct competition with them when I start my own practice.
    there is potentially alot of green at stake, on both sides.
    I truly believe that the attacks will get worse as time goes on.
    if i do nothing, the people that know me well will still be there, but others might start to believe the garbage.
    I guess it bothers me so much because it's not the way i behave.

    You answered your question in your last line. Dont stoop to his level, and watch whos business succeeds. Guaranteed, it WILL be YOURS.
  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sue then put a lein on his house.
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    My response to ither business or personal nasty words is always: You know who I am. Draw your own conclusions. Then I won't discuss it further.

    Doug
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    The truth will out. You can't defend yourself from a person or group that's spreading gossip about you. Rise above it, in time (much less than you might think) the rumors will cease and the matter will be forgotten. Be of cool nature and rise above the name calling, it will elevate you in the eyes of your friends and peers.
    Tom
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tplumeri
    thanks for all the advice and laughs!
    I like the art of war quote.
    the problem is that I'm leaving "the company" and will be in direct competition with them when I start my own practice.
    there is potentially alot of green at stake, on both sides.
    I truly believe that the attacks will get worse as time goes on.
    if i do nothing, the people that know me well will still be there, but others might start to believe the garbage.
    I guess it bothers me so much because it's not the way i behave.


    Actions speak louder than words. Those that know you will spread the good word. Those that are talking trash will disappear when they get no action.

    If you hold your head high and follow through with your decisions I think you will be fine.

    What is the saying? don't add fuel to the fire. Don't keep the game going by mud slinging. Just be the person you are and your character will be recognized for what it is.

    In such a judgemental world, most people are very critical of others. If you are stand up it will be recognized. Most people don't want to hear a bunch of trash talking and don't care for those that do it. It is a big turn off to hear this kinda crap.

    I don't know what kinda talk you are getting but don't forget it is said even bad publicity is good publicity. You may have a chance to prove yourself.
  • Survivalist86Survivalist86 Member Posts: 3,105
    edited November -1
    Sticks and stones Bro!!
  • pietro75pietro75 Member Posts: 7,048
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RebelRooster
    The truth will out. You can't defend yourself from a person or group that's spreading gossip about you. Rise above it, in time (much less than you might think) the rumors will cease and the matter will be forgotten. Be of cool nature and rise above the name calling, it will elevate you in the eyes of your friends and peers.
    Tom



    Yeah what he said! coulda saved me some typing.
  • breddyrrtbreddyrrt Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I own a sleep lab and have a group of internal medicine docs as partners. They have lost three fellow docs from there practice and it always goes bad. I don't get why there is so much bitterness amongest docs. Long story short, do what you know is right and set the record straight with those who ask.
    Good luck with your new practice.

    Want to start a sleep lab?[:D]
  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd take off my left mail gauntlet and smack them across the face with it and challange them to a duel under yonder old oak tree.

    dagger and vambrace.


    good luck
  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RebelRooster
    The truth will out. You can't defend yourself from a person or group that's spreading gossip about you. Rise above it, in time (much less than you might think) the rumors will cease and the matter will be forgotten. Be of cool nature and rise above the name calling, it will elevate you in the eyes of your friends and peers.
    Tom


    what he said...
    and if that dont work, i got a couple body bags ill give you a special deal on...[;)]
  • onthebreakonthebreak Member Posts: 14 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just say " I'm rubber and your glue, what ever you say bounces off me and sicks to you". Works for me!
  • lindalecowboylindalecowboy Member Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just SMILE [:)] it will kill them with kindness and make everyone else "wonder" if it's true or not, ????? always keepem guessing.

    I learned a long time ago, you can't match wits with an idiot so don't even try. I love to DEBATE but when those of opposite opinions want to get into a serious FIGHT, I just walk away or just SMILE !!!
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,613 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tell em to uckoff.
  • ATHOMSONATHOMSON Member Posts: 3,399 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thermite on the hood of their car.[}:)] Anonymously of course.[;)]

    AT
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    I just laugh it off and walk away.

    If they want to provoke any further, I make sure they throw the first punch - and let them have it.
  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would just walk away. Now if they raise a hand, that's a different story.
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    Nothing hurts more than being IGNORED!. Dont say sh&t back or get a lawyer if it is serious enough!
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    I can't worry about what people say, people who know me, already know the truth, if people don't know me, I probably couldn't convince them anyway. People love to believe the worst about others.
    If they are costing you money by damaging your business reputation then you have to sue them and make the suit public.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think this lesson is learned in elementary school if I'm not mistaken.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    quote:I could respond in kind, and drag out some of their dirty laundry (they have much more than i do) but then I would be stooping to their level.

    Draft a letter to the media pointing out this information along with information or sources to verify it. Send it to the party who is causing you problems with the threat of submitting the letter if they don't back off.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Um start by talking to them? Ask them why they are doing this, try and work out an understanding. If no chance then you have to evaluate the damage they are doing or not to you, what is it worth to you your good name?

    Any chance they are right?

    Or just nuke em

    [;)]
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    well, thanks again for all the advice and ideas.
    I had a sitdown with the offensive ones today.
    I calmly asked them to stop the smear campaign or I would be forced to turn my lawyer loose.
    they of course, denied everything, but (get this!) agreed to stop spreading rumors if I would back down on my plans to go private!
    yes, you read that right!
    I stayed calm and didn't show any anger or concern and excused myself from the meeting saying "if you want to discuss this again please call my mr xxxx" (my lawyer)
    an hour later i got a phone call (on condition of anonymity) that they expected me to go ballistic and threaten them and i screwed up their plans.
    also told me that the recorded the meeting!
    so, it's in the lawyers hands now.
    thanks again
    tom
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You would think (hope) that people with twenty years or more of formal education wouldn't act like that.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    In most instances, I'd be inclined to let it ride...and let my own actions/reputation speak for itself. Most folks can see through the BS...at least I hope they can.

    If it's something serious, I'd call them on it.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
    Roundhouse kick to the side of the head works every time. Spinning back fist is just about as effective if enough energy is created. [^]

    Jim

    [:D]

    [:p]

    Edit: Please note that is to deal with your attorney. All attorneys suck, except mine of course. My relative. [;)]




    Elbows are seriously underrated...and very effective as well!
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