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Updated: 1:01 p.m. May 29, 2009
Alleged rapist posts bond, was client of Atlanta woman
Snellville man charged with rape in Tennessee
By MEGAN MATTEUCCI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday, May 28, 2009
Sevier County, Tenn. - An Atlanta business owner is back home recovering after being kidnapped, driven to a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and raped, Tennessee authorities said Friday.
The suspect, David Joseph Jansen of Snellville, was released from the Sevier County Jail late Thursday on an $800,000 bond, said sheriff's Capt. Jeff McCarter.
David J. Jansen
The 24-year-old woman told police she was jogging on Montgomery Ferry Road near the Morningside community around 11:30 a.m. Tuesday when Jansen, identified by authorities as someone who works in computers, pulled up in a Dodge Charger.
She didn't recognize Jansen at first, according to a Sheriff's Department report. But after a few minutes of talking, she recognized him as someone who has been client at the business she and her husband own, the report states. The report did not identify the business.
Jansen, 46, told the woman he had just purchased the new car and encouraged her to sit down in the passenger seat to check out the interior.
The woman agreed and was immediately restrained, deputies said.
Jansen bound the woman's hands and tied her to the car seat before driving her to Gatlinburg, Tenn. - about 240 miles north of Atlanta, the report states.
He took her to a rented cabin in the mountains, where he bound her again, cut her clothes off and raped her twice, police said.
"It's in the most isolated, desolate area of the county, way up in the mountains," McCarter said.
She remained in the cabin for several hours until a pizza deliveryman arrived to bring her abductor dinner, McCarter said.
As Jansen's back was turned, the woman showed the deliveryman her bound hands and silently mouthed for him to call 911, according to witness statements.
A deputy arrived shortly later and found the woman asleep on the couch, covered in a blanket.
"He [deputy] saw the female tied up, secured the scene and untied her," McCarter said. "He [the suspect] didn't resist or fight."
Jansen told deputies the two were on a "romantic getaway from their spouses" and the woman was sexually aroused by bondage, according to the report.
Deputies didn't buy this story, handcuffed Jansen and separated the couple. Once away from Jansen, the woman told police she had been kidnapped and raped, the report states.
"At this point we don't know what Mr. Jansen's intent was, but the pizza delivery man was instrumental in her safety," McCarter said.
The woman was treated at a local hospital for the sexual assault, along with minor cuts and scrapes.
Jansen was charged with aggravated rape and aggravated kidnapping.
Late Thursday, several Atlanta attorneys arrived at the Sevier County jail and paid Jansen's $800,000 bond, which required $80,000 in cash, McCarter said.
Jansen has no ties to Sevier County, McCarter said. Jail records show Jansen, who was born in Colorado, lives in Snellville with his wife Kristy and two children.
Deputies seized rope from the bed in the cabin and the Dodge Charger, along with bits of the victim's torn clothes and condoms, the report states.
Staff Reporter Mike Morris contributed to this report.
Alleged rapist posts bond, was client of Atlanta woman
Snellville man charged with rape in Tennessee
By MEGAN MATTEUCCI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday, May 28, 2009
Sevier County, Tenn. - An Atlanta business owner is back home recovering after being kidnapped, driven to a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and raped, Tennessee authorities said Friday.
The suspect, David Joseph Jansen of Snellville, was released from the Sevier County Jail late Thursday on an $800,000 bond, said sheriff's Capt. Jeff McCarter.
David J. Jansen
The 24-year-old woman told police she was jogging on Montgomery Ferry Road near the Morningside community around 11:30 a.m. Tuesday when Jansen, identified by authorities as someone who works in computers, pulled up in a Dodge Charger.
She didn't recognize Jansen at first, according to a Sheriff's Department report. But after a few minutes of talking, she recognized him as someone who has been client at the business she and her husband own, the report states. The report did not identify the business.
Jansen, 46, told the woman he had just purchased the new car and encouraged her to sit down in the passenger seat to check out the interior.
The woman agreed and was immediately restrained, deputies said.
Jansen bound the woman's hands and tied her to the car seat before driving her to Gatlinburg, Tenn. - about 240 miles north of Atlanta, the report states.
He took her to a rented cabin in the mountains, where he bound her again, cut her clothes off and raped her twice, police said.
"It's in the most isolated, desolate area of the county, way up in the mountains," McCarter said.
She remained in the cabin for several hours until a pizza deliveryman arrived to bring her abductor dinner, McCarter said.
As Jansen's back was turned, the woman showed the deliveryman her bound hands and silently mouthed for him to call 911, according to witness statements.
A deputy arrived shortly later and found the woman asleep on the couch, covered in a blanket.
"He [deputy] saw the female tied up, secured the scene and untied her," McCarter said. "He [the suspect] didn't resist or fight."
Jansen told deputies the two were on a "romantic getaway from their spouses" and the woman was sexually aroused by bondage, according to the report.
Deputies didn't buy this story, handcuffed Jansen and separated the couple. Once away from Jansen, the woman told police she had been kidnapped and raped, the report states.
"At this point we don't know what Mr. Jansen's intent was, but the pizza delivery man was instrumental in her safety," McCarter said.
The woman was treated at a local hospital for the sexual assault, along with minor cuts and scrapes.
Jansen was charged with aggravated rape and aggravated kidnapping.
Late Thursday, several Atlanta attorneys arrived at the Sevier County jail and paid Jansen's $800,000 bond, which required $80,000 in cash, McCarter said.
Jansen has no ties to Sevier County, McCarter said. Jail records show Jansen, who was born in Colorado, lives in Snellville with his wife Kristy and two children.
Deputies seized rope from the bed in the cabin and the Dodge Charger, along with bits of the victim's torn clothes and condoms, the report states.
Staff Reporter Mike Morris contributed to this report.
Comments
Doug
yeah, I bet she even tied herself up to make him look bad......
you gotta be kidding!
I hope the guy gets to be somebody's boy toy in prison! and I hope the dirt bag lawyers who posted his bail get to go with him.
jmho[:(!]
rider
The woman agreed" and was immediately restrained, deputies said.
Does anybody know of a woman that would do this? (Item in blue).
..didn't think so. Let's wait until the entire story is out. Joe
He has 80K cash that quick to kick up for bail? he must have a nice nest egg. I wonder if she knows how much he has tucked away, I wonder what kind of "client" he was? something smells like she is looking for a payday....
JMHO.
Don
But, y'all are bringing up some good points.
A femme who is out jogging is not likely to get into a car with a guy who is, pretty much, a stranger. "To check out the interior?" Sounds fishy.
Also, he is going to leave a kidnap and rape victim tied up in sight of the pizza delivery guy?
Fishy.
A femme who is out jogging is not likely to get into a car with a guy who is, pretty much, a stranger. "To check out the interior?" Sounds fishy.
Also, he is going to leave a kidnap and rape victim tied up in sight of the pizza delivery guy?
Fishy.
+1
It isn't impossible that she could have been raped, but from what info is presented, I don't belive her story.
Either she is looking for a payday, or she got buyer's remorse.
If my wife was out jogging she wouldn't get into a car with me.
He's either a stalker or something don't add up right. I figure he committed some sort of crime, but the article looks like he has some reasonable doubt.
Doug
Yeah...nekkid.
Doug
[:D]
Pizza man didn't believe kidnapping, rape victim at first
By MEGAN MATTEUCCI
Friday, May 29, 2009
Sevier County, Tenn. - A pizza deliveryman said he thought about his own wife's safety when he saw an Atlanta woman bound with rope and begging for help inside a secluded cabin.
On Friday, police called the deliveryman a hero for rescuing the 24-year-old after she was allegedly kidnapped from Atlanta, driven to a cabin in the Smoky Mountains and raped.
Chris and Laniesha Turner
`I kept thinking it could have been her,' said Chris Turner, referring to his wife, Laniesha Turner. Chris Turner was instrumental in the arrest of a man accused of rape and kidnapping.
"I kept thinking it could have been her," deliveryman Chris Turner said as he looked at his wife. "She could have been another one for his sex party."
Police say David Joseph Jansen, of Snellville, abducted the woman as she was jogging in her subdivision on Montgomery Ferry Road in Atlanta around 11:30 a.m. Tuesday.
Jansen was arrested on charges of aggravated rape and kidnapping after a tip from Turner. Jansen was released from the Sevier County (Tenn.) Jail late Thursday on an $800,000 bond, said Capt. Jeff McCarter of the Sevier County Sheriff's Department.
Jansen, 46, approached the woman and encouraged her to check out his new Dodge Charger.
The victim told police she didn't recognize Jansen at first. But after a few minutes of talking, she recognized him as someone who attended the nightclub she and her husband own, according to a Sevier County Sheriff's Department report.
Jansen encouraged her to sit in the passenger seat to check out the interior, she told investigators. The woman complied and was immediately restrained, deputies said.
Jansen bound the woman's hands and tied her to the car seat before driving her to Gatlinburg, Tenn., about 240 miles north of Atlanta, the report states.
He took her to a rented cabin in the mountains, where he bound her again, forced her to take some prescription pills, cut her clothes off and raped her twice, police said.
"It's in the most isolated, desolate area of the county, way up in the mountains," McCarter said.
The woman remained in the cabin for several hours until the deliveryman arrived to bring Jansen dinner - an extra large supreme pizza, ten hot wings and four 20 ounce-bottles of soda.
"He was signing the credit card slip when she popped up from the couch and showed me her tied hands and mouthed `call 911,'" said Turner, who has been delivering pizzas at Capelli's Pizza in Gaitlinburg for a month. "I said `Are you for real?' I didn't believe her."
The woman rolled her eyes and again silently pleaded for Turner to call police.
"My stomach was turning and I turned white as a ghost and left. I wanted to remain calm so he didn't know I suspected anything," Turner said Friday.
Turner then climbed into the delivery van, where his wife, Laniesha, was waiting. They drove to neighbor Bill Toomey's house, where they called police.
Toomey and Turner waited for about 20 minutes for deputies to arrive. Worried that Jansen would flee, Toomey blocked the cabin's driveway with his truck.
"I had a gun at my side in case," said Toomey, who owns Toomey's Country Market in Gatlinburg.
Deputies arrived shortly later and found the woman asleep on the couch, covered in a blanket.
"He saw the female tied up, secured the scene and untied her," McCarter said. Jansen told deputies the two were on a "romantic getaway from their spouses" and the woman was sexually aroused by bondage, according to the report.
Deputies didn't buy this story, handcuffed Jansen and separated the couple. Once away from Jansen, the woman told police she had been kidnapped and raped, the report states.
"At this point we don't know what Mr. Jansen's intent was, but the pizza delivery man was instrumental in her safety," McCarter said.
The woman was treated at a local hospital for the sexual assault, along with minor cuts and scrapes. She returned to Atlanta two days later, police said.
Jansen was charged with aggravated rape and aggravated kidnapping.
Late Thursday, several Atlanta attorneys arrived at the Sevier County jail and paid Jansen's $800,000 bond, which required $80,000 in cash, McCarter said.
Pam Hill, who owns Stony Brook Chalets, said Jansen called and reserved the cabin early Tuesday. He arrived around 5 p.m. and paid with a credit card.
"He seemed normal and nice as could be," said Hill, whose family owns 40 cabins in the Smoky Mountains.
The secluded cabin, which is about 15 miles outside Gatlinburg, is about two miles off the road, up a steep gravel driveway on the side of the mountain. A hot tub sits on the cabin's deck, overlooking the mountains.
Jansen has no ties to Sevier County, McCarter said. Jail records show Jansen, who was born in Colorado, lives in Snellville with his wife and two children.
Deputies seized rope from the bed in the cabin and Charger, along with bits of the victim's torn clothes and condoms, the report states.
Turner met the victim and her husband, who thanked him.
"I was doing my job and being a citizen," the 32-year-old deliveryman said. "Plus, I got $13 off the delivery. That's not bad for a half an hour."
"He said, she said."
I mean, a woman wouldn't cheat on her husband, get caught, and then, lie about it, would she?
On the other hand, a man would kidnap and rape.
But, he is going to leave his victim in plain sight of the pizza boy? Fishy.
I will update this case as the stories appear in the newspapers.
Something don't add up....
Don
Kidnapper lets a women be in plain view of the pizza guy?
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She felt guilty that she went up north to bang the Smoky Mountain Bear and now needs a way out.
Throw her in jail for false informing.
Only a fool would buy this BS.
Rape is about power, not sex.
You don't really believe that feminist bullcrap, do you?
Saying rape is not about sex is like saying bank robbery is not about money.
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
Your right we should wait for the nancy grace version...
Don
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
look, my opinion means poop to anyone else, but it is my opinion. Rape is a horrible crime. If the facts come out that she is lying then I am all for giving her the sentence he would have received had he been convicted, but to put the victim on trial until this is proven is kind of ridiculous. It still needs to be investigated, and if he is telling the truth I am sure there will be more than enough evidence to back his side.
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
look, my opinion means poop to anyone else, but it is my opinion. Rape is a horrible crime. If the facts come out that she is lying then I am all for giving her the sentence he would have received had he been convicted, but to put the victim on trial until this is proven is kind of ridiculous. It still needs to be investigated, and if he is telling the truth I am sure there will be more than enough evidence to back his side.
I don't think any poster here has insinuated that rape ISN'T horrible.
The "victim" should well be on trial. She had no obvious cuts, bruises, ect. that the deliveryman would see to make it obvious she was a victim of a kidnapping.
She willingly jumps in a car, with a man she barely knows (or even knows at all). He is merely a "client", not a friend, partner, or big spender.
He ties her up, and drives 200 miles with her in the front seat. 200 miles and no one notices her tied up? She makes no point to attract attention?
He takes her to some cabin in the mountains, has sex with her twice. He wears condoms.
Then they are hungry and he orders pizza and soda.
No mention of a weapon. No mention of her fighting back.
None of that sounds fishy to you? Are you one of those people that automatically belive the female, because she SAID so?
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
look, my opinion means poop to anyone else, but it is my opinion. Rape is a horrible crime. If the facts come out that she is lying then I am all for giving her the sentence he would have received had he been convicted, but to put the victim on trial until this is proven is kind of ridiculous. It still needs to be investigated, and if he is telling the truth I am sure there will be more than enough evidence to back his side.
I don't think any poster here has insinuated that rape ISN'T horrible.
The "victim" should well be on trial. She had no obvious cuts, bruises, ect. that the deliveryman would see to make it obvious she was a victim of a kidnapping.
She willingly jumps in a car, with a man she barely knows (or even knows at all). He is merely a "client", not a friend, partner, or big spender.
He ties her up, and drives 200 miles with her in the front seat. 200 miles and no one notices her tied up? She makes no point to attract attention?
He takes her to some cabin in the mountains, has sex with her twice. He wears condoms.
Then they are hungry and he orders pizza and soda.
No mention of a weapon. No mention of her fighting back.
None of that sounds fishy to you? Are you one of those people that automatically belive the female, because she SAID so?
no, I am not a person who automatically believes a female when a rape charge is made. That being said the story that some have proposed here makes no sense either.
a) the fact that she got caught, and was trying to wiggle out of her responsibility. Why would she purposely make herself seen to a stranger if this was the case.
b)payday. If a person is charged they will have to spend the majority of their money on defense, pretty much breaking the average person with a little money (obviously this guy was not totally loaded or he wouldnt have been driving a Dodge Charger.
c) A rape/evidence kit will prove or disprove a lot of what she is saying.
d)Some people in different areas are more trusting than others, and are just plain dimwitted. Lack of common sense does not make one a willing participant.
e) sometimes the mere threat of physical violence makes some people comply, look at the black panther thread.
f)He looks like a caveman, not something a woman who apparently cares about her own appearance (jogging) would be attracted to.
g)If a woman who wanted affair would probably find a way to make the time without drawing so much attention to herself.
I am just saying let the facts come out before you rain too much criticism on her, or not. I have no say in your opinions, or beliefs, it was just something I dont agree with.
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
look, my opinion means poop to anyone else, but it is my opinion. Rape is a horrible crime. If the facts come out that she is lying then I am all for giving her the sentence he would have received had he been convicted, but to put the victim on trial until this is proven is kind of ridiculous. It still needs to be investigated, and if he is telling the truth I am sure there will be more than enough evidence to back his side.
I don't think any poster here has insinuated that rape ISN'T horrible.
The "victim" should well be on trial. She had no obvious cuts, bruises, ect. that the deliveryman would see to make it obvious she was a victim of a kidnapping.
She willingly jumps in a car, with a man she barely knows (or even knows at all). He is merely a "client", not a friend, partner, or big spender.
He ties her up, and drives 200 miles with her in the front seat. 200 miles and no one notices her tied up? She makes no point to attract attention?
He takes her to some cabin in the mountains, has sex with her twice. He wears condoms.
Then they are hungry and he orders pizza and soda.
No mention of a weapon. No mention of her fighting back.
None of that sounds fishy to you? Are you one of those people that automatically belive the female, because she SAID so?
no, I am not a person who automatically believes a female when a rape charge is made. That being said the story that some have proposed here makes no sense either.
a) the fact that she got caught, and was trying to wiggle out of her responsibility. Why would she purposely make herself seen to a stranger if this was the case. Like yoou said later in your post, some people are dumb. Perhaps it was a snap decision, or perhaps it was a planned opertunity.
b)payday. If a person is charged they will have to spend the majority of their money on defense, pretty much breaking the average person with a little money (obviously this guy was not totally loaded or he wouldnt have been driving a Dodge Charger.I know a "rich" fella. He has a gold Rolls Royce in his garage. He drives a low end BMW everyday. He dresses in clothes that are plain, not Armani suits. He has given MILLIONS in this community.
What this guy drives is no indication of real wealth
c) A rape/evidence kit will prove or disprove a lot of what she is saying. only thing it will prove, is they had sex. It will not prove if that sex was rape.
d)Some people in different areas are more trusting than others, and are just plain dimwitted. Lack of common sense does not make one a willing participant. True. But I doubt if some hairy ape were trying to rape you, you would comply so meekly. But your right, she may just be plain stupid.
e) sometimes the mere threat of physical violence makes some people comply, look at the black panther thread. Well, she had enough guts to tip off the pizza guy. Where was her courage on the 200 mile road trip?
f)He looks like a caveman, not something a woman who apparently cares about her own appearance (jogging) would be attracted to.And some 18 year old hottie will do some 90 year old cogger. Different strokes for different folks. Maybe she likes em' hairy and gross.
g)If a woman who wanted affair would probably find a way to make the time without drawing so much attention to herself. unless it was her plan to be seen
I am just saying let the facts come out before you rain too much criticism on her, or not. I have no say in your opinions, or beliefs, it was just something I dont agree with.
Hey, I am all for being wrong in this case. I just think too many details are fishy. Too many things don't add up.
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
After reading some of the responses here I can't help but feel ashamed.
OK. If you say so Tod.
look, my opinion means poop to anyone else, but it is my opinion. Rape is a horrible crime. If the facts come out that she is lying then I am all for giving her the sentence he would have received had he been convicted, but to put the victim on trial until this is proven is kind of ridiculous. It still needs to be investigated, and if he is telling the truth I am sure there will be more than enough evidence to back his side.
I don't think any poster here has insinuated that rape ISN'T horrible.
The "victim" should well be on trial. She had no obvious cuts, bruises, ect. that the deliveryman would see to make it obvious she was a victim of a kidnapping.
She willingly jumps in a car, with a man she barely knows (or even knows at all). He is merely a "client", not a friend, partner, or big spender.
He ties her up, and drives 200 miles with her in the front seat. 200 miles and no one notices her tied up? She makes no point to attract attention?
He takes her to some cabin in the mountains, has sex with her twice. He wears condoms.
Then they are hungry and he orders pizza and soda.
No mention of a weapon. No mention of her fighting back.
None of that sounds fishy to you? Are you one of those people that automatically belive the female, because she SAID so?
no, I am not a person who automatically believes a female when a rape charge is made. That being said the story that some have proposed here makes no sense either.
a) the fact that she got caught, and was trying to wiggle out of her responsibility. Why would she purposely make herself seen to a stranger if this was the case. Like yoou said later in your post, some people are dumb. Perhaps it was a snap decision, or perhaps it was a planned opertunity.
b)payday. If a person is charged they will have to spend the majority of their money on defense, pretty much breaking the average person with a little money (obviously this guy was not totally loaded or he wouldnt have been driving a Dodge Charger.I know a "rich" fella. He has a gold Rolls Royce in his garage. He drives a low end BMW everyday. He dresses in clothes that are plain, not Armani suits. He has given MILLIONS in this community.
What this guy drives is no indication of real wealth
c) A rape/evidence kit will prove or disprove a lot of what she is saying. only thing it will prove, is they had sex. It will not prove if that sex was rape.
d)Some people in different areas are more trusting than others, and are just plain dimwitted. Lack of common sense does not make one a willing participant. True. But I doubt if some hairy ape were trying to rape you, you would comply so meekly. But your right, she may just be plain stupid.
e) sometimes the mere threat of physical violence makes some people comply, look at the black panther thread. Well, she had enough guts to tip off the pizza guy. Where was her courage on the 200 mile road trip?
f)He looks like a caveman, not something a woman who apparently cares about her own appearance (jogging) would be attracted to.And some 18 year old hottie will do some 90 year old cogger. Different strokes for different folks. Maybe she likes em' hairy and gross.
g)If a woman who wanted affair would probably find a way to make the time without drawing so much attention to herself. unless it was her plan to be seen
I am just saying let the facts come out before you rain too much criticism on her, or not. I have no say in your opinions, or beliefs, it was just something I dont agree with.
Hey, I am all for being wrong in this case. I just think too many details are fishy. Too many things don't add up.
we could debate back and forth all night, but I prefer not to fight with my brothers. Here is to the facts being the facts and justice prevailing on whatever side it should.
But why a ((an)almost)) year old thread ??
Are you involved, somehow ??
Doug
I'd like to see a follow up.
What happened to those involved ??
Hubby shot rapist ??
Rapee divorced hubby and married rapist.
Rapist in the clink ??
What ??
Doug