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Question about international sales (Canada)

TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Why does no one sell firearms internationaly
I'm intrested in ww1/ww2 lee enfields, there is lots of stuff on this web site but no one sells outside the U.S. Any advice? (other than moving)[?][:(] What is an FFL anyway[?]

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  • watrulookinatwatrulookinat Member Posts: 4,693
    edited November -1
  • skeens41skeens41 Member Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    man!! this is going to get interesting, are canadians allowed to have guns now? i thought the new leader put a halt to that
  • spurgemasturspurgemastur Member Posts: 5,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    import/export paperwork is too much of a hassle.
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by watrulookinat
    Move.[:D]

    Wow, really useful information.
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cananians have always been able to have guns. just can't walk down the street with one. we use them at the range or hunting or private property for fun.

    Our new Prime Minster seems more intrested in protecting thease rights than the last one (I like that).

    Paperwork?

    Not sure how much there is on your end, there's a fair bit on my end but I'm willing to do it.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Toronto,

    Welcome to the Gunbroker Forums!

    International Import/Export of firearms has been overtly complicated by pressure brought to bear on governments by the anti-gun factions around the world. The U.N. backs several types of programs meant to deprive the average citizen of their rights to own firearms and protect themselves. Your own Mayor of Toronto is a vociferous anti-gunner/anti-American. The man yaps like a rabid dog about how America is responsible for gun violence and the prevalence of firearms in Canada. End politicized rant.

    Canada and the U.S. have escalated their regulations of firearms crossing our common border. It has become a tit-for-tat exercise in government regulatory paperwork. We add or change laws then Canada adds or changes laws. You need to contact your agencies that control importation to get the latest updated rules and regulations.

    We are not the Experts on your regulations about importation. My primary suggestion is for you to contact your regulatory agencies in Canada and have them spell out the process for you to import firearms into Canada. They have the pamphlets but these aren't very forthcoming with a straight forward set of steps. It appears that they intentionally leave out the important steps...

    Here is a short version:

    Importing Firearms

    "You cannot bring a prohibited firearm into Canada as a new import even if you are licensed to possess that class of firearm. You can re-import a prohibited firearm that you temporarily took out of Canada if you have a valid licence authorizing you to possess it and a valid Canadian registration certificate for the firearm. [If you plan to take a firearm out of Canada, note that you may need an export permit from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (DFAIT). For more information, contact the Export Controls Division of DFAIT at 1 800 267-8376 (toll free in Canada) or (613) 996-2387].

    In order to bring a restricted or non-restricted firearm as a new import, you must be at least 18 years old and have a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL) that is valid for the class of firearm you are importing. A Possession-Only Licence (POL) does not allow you to import a newly acquired firearm, though it does allow you to re-import one that you temporarily took out of Canada and that is registered in Canada.

    If the firearm is restricted and you are transporting it yourself, you must obtain in advance an Authorization to Transport (ATT) from the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of the province or territory where you will be entering Canada. You can apply for an ATT by calling 1 800 731-4000 or by mailing or faxing form CAFC 679 to the applicable CFO. The form can be obtained from any of the sources referred to at the end of this fact sheet.

    If you have the firearm shipped to you, it must be shipped by a carrier company licensed under the Firearms Act to transport firearms.

    Firearms shipped by a licensed carrier must be in a sturdy, non-transparent container that cannot readily be broken into and that is not likely to break open accidentally during transport. To deter theft, there should be no markings on the outside of the container to indicate that there are firearms inside unless the marking is an address. It is generally recommended that an envelope labelled "Customs Documents" be firmly attached to the outside of the container. Any waybills, import permits and export permits can then be put into the envelope.

    The firearm must be declared at Canada Customs and the applicable duties and taxes must be paid. For more information on the declaration process, please call the Canada Border Services Agency at 1 800 461-9999, (204) 983-3500 or (506) 636-5064. Information is also available on their web site.

    All newly imported firearms must be verified by an approved verifier and registered. For help to verify and register a newly imported firearm, call 1 800 731-4000, (Canada and the U.S.) or 1 506 624-5380 (outside Canada and the U.S.)."
    http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/imports_e.asp

    You might want to talk to:

    http://www.marstar.ca/gf-usedguns/index.shtm

    or

    http://www.ellwoodepps.com/

    Best.
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    nononsense:

    thanks for the info and links. Youre right the mayor is anti gun.
    he just passed a bill to prevent any new wholesalers/manufactures of guns from forming in the city. Also some of our ranges and clubs rent space on city property he wants to kick them off!
    Some or our olympic shooters train on thoes ranges![:(]
  • wlfmn323wlfmn323 Member Posts: 4,712
    edited November -1
    drive south, till you hit america.
    buy one and take it home.

    sounds simple enough to me![:D][:D][}:)][}:)]
  • MFIMFI Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Im looking for good tickets for the Yankees and Jays at the Skydome series coming up in a couple weeks. Got any contacts for me ? I went to Niagara University so I know the Toronto area quite well.
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey MFI Skydome is called Rogers Center now (Ted Rogers bought it)
    Try doing a search for there box office I think you can buy or reserv
    online if not there's allways scalpers.
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hey everyone sad news about the ranges I mentioned earlier, the clubs will be evicted and the ranges will be closed down.
    the decision was made on tuesday[:(!][:(!][:(!][V][V][V]
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I lived in Canada for 27 years (10 in Quebec and 17 in New Brunswick), and I'm going back in retirement. I may have to leave some of my guns behind with relatives. I've gotten more into Black Powder, so I don't think I'll have much of a problem with my muzzle loading long guns. I hope not. Red Tape ... ugh!
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    I sold a pistol to guy in Sweden, and wasn't sure just how to handle
    that. He had someone here in the states that always handled his
    transactions and had me ship it to them.

    Maybe you could find someone stateside that does this sort of thing
    for all international orders..?
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Andersk:

    As long as what you are bringing in isn't full auto and meets the max/min barel lenghts for restricted/ non resteicted you should be fine. Pistols and such may be more of a pain in the *, but we can have them so you should be able to bring them.[:)]
  • TorontoToronto Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spryor:

    That's a good idea. I will try to find someone in the Niagra Falls area. That's only 1.5 hours away.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, my muzzle loaders are not full-auto! [:D]

    But my revolver may not be worth the effort.

    And my other guns are already registered in Canada ... I'll just be bringing them back! [;)]
  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have received firearms from Canada and it was really not that big of a deal.
    I jad to ask Washington DC for permision and they sent me form 9, If I remember right, filled it out, sent it back to dc and they send it back to me which I had to send to Canada to be packed with the firearm for shipment.

    I don't know how Canadas laws are about importing though.
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