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IF YOU ARE GOING TO CASTRATE...

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited February 2006 in General Discussion
Then you better know what you are doing...

A friend of mine needed some goats done....had 4 adults and 3 babies to be castrated...

Well, 3 adults as are the babies are all great...and the other one?....Dead...

Bled to death..

Owner of the goats hired someone who works in a feed store to do it....

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    beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It sure ain't brain surgery, that's for sure.
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    dlrjjdlrjj Member Posts: 5,528 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have done thousands of pigs. All it takes is a sharp knife, quick hands, deaf ears, and a strong stomach. Might not hurt to know what you are actually cutting.
    Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is an art form.
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    mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    do it with a small elastic, like the sheep, see ya local sheep farmer, he has the plier thingy's to put the band on.no pain ,no probs.. [:)]
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    jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    Cut, Pull, and Slap 'em on the * as they walk away. Pretty much all there is to it.[:D]

    Ben
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    Heavy ChevyHeavy Chevy Member Posts: 736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mond
    do it with a small elastic, like the sheep, see ya local sheep farmer, he has the plier thingy's to put the band on.no pain ,no probs.. [:)]



    Let's put a rubber on yours and test that no pain theory.
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    tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,335 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It used to take Pops and me about 30 seconds per hog....unless we let them get over 40 lbs. Fight? Oooooeeeee could they squirm. Slit, reach in and pull, cut, spray with gentian violet and let 'em loose. Dad usually cut, 'cause he was faster. That means I sat on them and got pi**ed in the face.
    I don't know how you could screw it up enough to result in that much bleeding. [V]
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    MossbergboogieMossbergboogie Member Posts: 12,211
    edited November -1
    rubber bands are much safer, You can use a crimp devise as well. We never cut calves stressed them way too much. 90 percent of the time we used the band method. never lost one
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    eastwood44mageastwood44mag Member Posts: 2,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Banding can lead to some nasty infection, can't it?
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    dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 31,950 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cutting is 100% effective. Banding and elastrators are not. Don
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    tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,335 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don, when they dry up and fall off, THAT is effective birth control...[:D]....should be used on other species...[;)]
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    mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    heavy chevy, "quote"
    try it on ya self bud, i'll keep ma ear to the ground. but if ya wanna play with ma nuts...mmmm try the blue oyster bar..[:D][:D]
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    jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Cutting is 100% effective. Banding and elastrators are not. Don


    Around here, we still band some (cattle), but have gone back to knife cutting most. The reason we have gone back to knife cutting is because the slaughter houses have been complaining about "steers" that were banded. What dcon12's talking about is the same thing we've been hearing from the slaughter houses. Apparently, they were receiving "steers" that still had a testicle. The person doing the banding would only get one testicle down inside the band and left the other one up. Well when the scrotum rots off it appears to have been castrated, but obviously wasn't. Another problem we have had, though only once or twice out of hundreds of castrations, was we would band a calf, turn it out only to come back in a week to find the band had broken. We started using two bands per calf after that and never had that problem again. Never used the "zip-tie" type devices, so I can't comment on their effectiveness.

    Ben
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    Heavy ChevyHeavy Chevy Member Posts: 736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    now ,now, just cos you carnt get the elastic on..[:D][:D]
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    chris_cechris_ce Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reading this thread I get a pain. Like you get when someone is kicked there and you just seen it.
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    Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,389 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:chrishiher Posted
    rubber bands are much safer, You can use a crimp devise as well. We never cut calves stressed them way too much. 90 percent of the time we used the band method. never lost one

    Bands are the way to go.
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    grizzclawgrizzclaw Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My wife's a pro, did me about thirty years ago and I never felt it coming.[:0][:0][:0]
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    calamitywoodcalamitywood Member Posts: 939 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We always banded the calves and cut the pigs. Never lost one never had an infection in the 18 years i lived on the farm. The thread about only one testicle is correct however. One should know how to count to two.
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    jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They make a tool that you cut the testicle off and it crushes the cord about the testicle to prevent much blood loss. Unlike just using a knife where once in a while one will bleed to death. Also on larger calves you can get a banding machine to work on them now, but the calf will need a tetanious shot to stop infections.
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    DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tapwater
    Slit, reach in and pull, cut, spray with gentian violet and let 'em loose.

    Interesting that this is the same procedure you must undergo to be a GB board moderator.
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    shootlowshootlow Member Posts: 5,425
    edited November -1
    rubber bands and a shot of CDT for tetinus
    i havent lost one yet
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    dolfandolfan Member Posts: 4,159
    edited November -1
    After reading this thread, thank God I'm a city boy.[:D]
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    dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 31,950 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shootlow
    rubber bands and a shot of CDT for tetinus
    i havent lost one yet


    I have not lost any yet but they do try to hide afterwords. Don
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    gbeggrowgbeggrow Member Posts: 5,499
    edited November -1
    [:0] Oh my![:D][:o)]
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    shootlowshootlow Member Posts: 5,425
    edited November -1
    i am going to do about 30 kidd billies this weekend
    any one else need it while i got the bands out [;)]
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    zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    What!?? No teeth???

    Oh MY![:0][:0][:0]
    chewtwigzz.gif
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    redrebelredrebel Member Posts: 826 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
    What!?? No teeth???

    Oh MY![:0][:0][:0]
    chewtwigzz.gif



    I actually seen it done that way before. Of course I was on the keep the calf held down end.
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    dipitsdipits Member Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    After readin this thread .

    PLEASE STOP BANDING and send me the cuttings .
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    Heavy ChevyHeavy Chevy Member Posts: 736 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shootlow
    i am going to do about 30 kidd billies this weekend
    any one else need it while i got the bands out [;)]


    Ya, take care of that English dude while you're at it! [:)][8D]
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    mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    heavy chevy.(big & daft) do it yourself...[:D][:D]
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    mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    seems like the band HAS been used eh! big & daft..[:D][:D]
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    richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    Need to make sure the animals have had enough vitamin "k" in their diet helps with clotting. Learned that with hogs many years ago.
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    tapwatertapwater Member Posts: 10,335 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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