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I had to put the fear of god into some kids!

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
I was out in my storage building doing a couple things and my kids came and got me saying that there was someone out in the woods throwing stuff at them. I just so happened to have a shotgun in the building with me at the time.

I grabbed the shotgun loaded with turkey shot at walked out that way. I'll tell you you never heard anyone take off so quick! I held that shotgun in plain view and just started walking towards the direction and you heard branches breaking and a ton of racket!

I doubt they will do that crap again![;)][:D][;)][:D][;)][:D]
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    watch out that kids dad might be the guy who roughed you up last time [:o)]
  • scrumpyjackscrumpyjack Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "I swear Dad, me and Jimmy-John were just walking in the woods and this crazy man with a shotgun started chasing us! His grass really needed to be mowed, too!"

    Gotta watch your six these days, GRD.[;)]
  • awindsawinds Member Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GRD's new "moniker" ?..........

    *-r-Die !![8)]
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,286 ******
    edited November -1
    That used to happen with regularity when I was a kid. There were a few people in our area that just didn't want to be bothered. If you messed around their place, they'd come out with a gun. If you told your parents, they'd say "Well, don't mess around there anymore."
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by scrumpyjack
    "I swear Dad, me and Jimmy-John were just walking in the woods and this crazy man with a shotgun started chasing us! His grass really needed to be mowed, too!"

    Gotta watch your six these days, GRD.[;)]
    Those woods are my property and they are well posted for no trespassing. So they had no buissness out there anyway.

    And even if there was a problem with the other all I would have to say is I was not going walking out in tyhe woods at night without a gun on me.[;)]
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    nice flag in your sig line[;)][:D]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,540 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tomahawk
    nice flag in your sig line[;)][:D]


    I don't see it ...my sig line stuff is turned OFF
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    GRD,

    I don't know what the age of the "kids" were, but I never address anyone including adults with a gun in hand unless I am in fear of my life or someone elses an I think I need to defend them with deadly force.

    While I agree that they probably got a shock, approaching someone with a gun could justify an armed response, and I doubt a gunfight over "kid" stuff was what you wanted. I would also not want to teach my kids that armed response should be used in non-life-threatening situations.

    I would be willing to bet that if you would have approached them in an authoritative adult manner, they would have had the same response and no guns would have been needed.

    I'm not critizing you in any way because I wasn't there to see what went on, and I would have had to be in your position and circumstances to know how I would have reacted, and obviously, I wasn't there, so no "judgement" intended from here. I'm just saying sometimes reaction is not the best action to take.

    If the kids were young adults (18'ish) and you were outnumbered, I support protecting yourself, your family and your property as needed.

    Take care my friend. Be safe, defend you and yours, and if those "kids" are old enough, watch your back incase the decide they need to respond in kind.
  • cactuspete1cactuspete1 Member Posts: 1,482 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think they feared the crazy dude with the shotgun more than God.[}:)]
  • jabronij3jabronij3 Member Posts: 4,686
    edited November -1
    ok so I have been away from the board for a bit but what is the relationship between grd's sig "line" and kyplumber's?
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Show them the pics of Drjew zipper
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dheffley
    GRD,

    I don't know what the age of the "kids" were, but I never address anyone including adults with a gun in hand unless I am in fear of my life or someone elses an I think I need to defend them with deadly force.




    +100[^]
  • warriorsfanwarriorsfan Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Brandishing a firearm towards some unarmed kids is a quick ticket to a felony conviction and never being allowed to legally own a firearm again. It doesn't matter if it's your property or not, I can't stand on my front lawn with a shotgun in hand without having the police there in five minutes with guns drawn, they're not going to give a spit where your property line is when they get a call about some guy chasing after some 13-year olds with a shotgun.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by warriorsfan
    Brandishing a firearm towards some unarmed kids is a quick ticket to a felony conviction and never being allowed to legally own a firearm again. It doesn't matter if it's your property or not, I can't stand on my front lawn with a shotgun in hand without having the police there in five minutes with guns drawn, they're not going to give a spit where your property line is when they get a call about some guy chasing after some 13-year olds with a shotgun.
    Whole piont to the matter is I had no idea of thier age or how many there were. All I knew for sure is that there was someone out in my woods throwing stuff at my kids.

    I know that it was probly nieghborhood kids and even can make an educated guess as to which kids it was. But with me going to go check it out without 100% facts I was well within my rights to go out into the woods on my property armed like I was. Hell I have guns on me in plain sight while on my property all the time and have never had a problem. I have even had guys on the sheriffs dept stop while driving by just to check out what I have. So I am not worried in the least about a brandishing charge out here.
  • watrulookinatwatrulookinat Member Posts: 4,693
    edited November -1
    In *_r_done's defense there were at least! three or four of them kids. Odds were against him, he did what he had to do.[:(!]
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I can't stand on my front lawn with a shotgun in hand without having the police there in five minutes with guns drawn, they're not going to give a spit where your property line

    that is why I will NEVER live north of the mason dixon line,,,here where I live not only do I walk out into the yard fully armed but I will pop off a few when the mood strikes me and the only time the police might stop buy is to see what I am shooting and talk guns and drink a glass of ice tea
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sharpshooter039
    quote:I can't stand on my front lawn with a shotgun in hand without having the police there in five minutes with guns drawn, they're not going to give a spit where your property line

    that is why I will NEVER live north of the mason dixon line,,,here where I live not only do I walk out into the yard fully armed but I will pop off a few when the mood strikes me and the only time the police might stop buy is to see what I am shooting and talk guns and drink a glass of ice tea
    +1
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    its stories like these that frequently make me wonder if some of the members here will enjoy prison.

    that was stupid kid stuff. if somebody meant serious harm to your children, they would be throwing one of two things. 1)candy(pedophiles) or 2)hand grenades(armed combatants). shoot either and you wont here a peep out of me. but you approached neighborhood kids horsing around with a shotgun? thats a blatant over reaction.

    as mentioned, holler at em. approach and conduct yourself in an adult and stern manner and be done with it. if that had been my children(of which its well know i have none but my opinion is still valid), even as an avid supporter of gun rights, i would have pressed charges against you in a heartbeat. you were in the wrong.

    and please save this "i will do anything to protect my family" crap. there was no significant threat.

    N.B. while the above is in response to grd's post, it isnt directed specifically at him, but at all who wither agree with his action or have acted similarly.
  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seems to me that I recall people being stoned to death at some time in the past. I do not need a reason to be armed on my own property. In todays crazy world it is within the realm of possibility for a group of youths to beat a person to death just for the fun of it. Threatening somone with a gun for no reason would be foolish. Responding to a possible threat with out the means to defend against that threat would be equally foolish.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    its stories like these that frequently make me wonder if some of the members here will enjoy prison.

    that was stupid kid stuff. if somebody meant serious harm to your children, they would be throwing one of two things. 1)candy(pedophiles) or 2)hand grenades(armed combatants). shoot either and you wont here a peep out of me. but you approached neighborhood kids horsing around with a shotgun? thats a blatant over reaction.

    as mentioned, holler at em. approach and conduct yourself in an adult and stern manner and be done with it. if that had been my children(of which its well know i have none but my opinion is still valid), even as an avid supporter of gun rights, i would have pressed charges against you in a heartbeat. you were in the wrong.and please save this "i will do anything to protect my family" crap. there was no significant threat.

    N.B. while the above is in response to grd's post, it isnt directed specifically at him, but at all who wither agree with his action or have acted similarly.
    I hate to tell you but by South Carolina state law I was not in the wrong!

    And you cannot tell me that in any state that if an officer was going into some unlit woods to investigate something that was even a slight possible threat that they would not do so with guns drawn!

    Since I posted this I even talked with a local sheriff deputy and he laffed and said that I did exactly as he would have! I never pointed the gun at anyone (I had the barrel safely pointed up) and went into those woods anounceing the fact that I was armed. It was after I said that I heard the breaking branches of people takeing off.

    Plain and simple I never put anyone into danger! All I did was give a message not to screw around on my property!
  • gjshawgjshaw Member Posts: 14,770 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [/quote]



    Since I posted this I even talked with a local sheriff deputy and he laffed and said that I did exactly as he would have!

    All I did was give a message not to screw around on my property!
    [/quote]
    Two questions Kevin,
    1.Does the local sheriff deputy that you talked with live in the same trailer park as you do?
    2. Do you pay rent on all the land behind your trailer or just the lot that your trailer sits on and the real landowner just lets you have use of the other land?
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gjshaw







    Since I posted this I even talked with a local sheriff deputy and he laffed and said that I did exactly as he would have!

    All I did was give a message not to screw around on my property!
    [/quote]
    Two questions Kevin,
    1.Does the local sheriff deputy that you talked with live in the same trailer park as you do?
    2. Do you pay rent on all the land behind your trailer or just the lot that your trailer sits on and the real landowner just lets you have use of the other land?
    [/quote]



    It is not a trailer park but I will answer this.

    On my rental agreement I rent the entire 3 acres of land for the lot that my mobil sits on. My landlord has told me that I can do with the land as I wish as long as I do not destroy it. I have gone out and cut down trees as the start of a true 200 yard shooting range and an area to hunt at.

    The deputy that I talked with does patrol this area. He has stopped by on several accations when I have had guns out (either getting ready to shoot or while I'm cleaning them) and stopped just to shoot the bull with me. He is one who is amazed at a couple of the things that I have so he allways stops to see if I have anything new if he catches me outside. He is a real nice guy that has said that he needs to come by one day when he is off duty and go shooting with me out back (I shoot out there all the time).
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your kids can go out back in the dark and play, but you have to grab a shotgun to go out back in the dark to yell at some kids? What am I missing here? Don
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:there was someone out in the woods throwing stuff at them

    what kinda "stuff"
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    Your kids can go out back in the dark and play, but you have to grab a shotgun to go out back in the dark to yell at some kids? What am I missing here? Don
    My kids don't go into the uncleared woods at night. Whoever was out there was in the woods throwing stuff up towards the house were my kids were on the lawn playing.

    They were back far enuff in the darkened woods that you could not see who it was.

    Like I said by our laws here I was well within the law.

    The kids that I believe it was have bullied my kids in the past and this was just another way for them to do this.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:there was someone out in the woods throwing stuff at them

    what kinda "stuff"
    I believe it was small rocks.
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    Even though you didnt point it If my kid came home and told me someone pointed a gun at them (although you didnt and I beleive you) I would have a serious problem with that and Im pretty sure the law would ALSO. Did you ever go on posted property when you were a kid? If nothing else it would cause some aggravation in some way to you. Geezz, all I would have to do is call the cops and say someone threatned my life over the phone and they would be hauled Off Ive seen it happen, Not to me personally but to a friend. Im not defending kids throwing stuff at your Kids. Just tell them to throw stuff back and tell them to stop whinning.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?
  • claysclays Member Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My first thought after reading your scenario was how you would have reacted, if your kids had came running home telling you a man with a gun chased them out of some woods where they were playing?
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by clays
    My first thought after reading your scenario was how you would have reacted, if your kids had came running home telling you a man with a gun chased them out of some woods where they were playing?


    I would have asked them whose property were they on? If you keep your kids on your property, you need not worry.

    If you let them run wild, you need your own * kicked.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by clays
    My first thought after reading your scenario was how you would have reacted, if your kids had came running home telling you a man with a gun chased them out of some woods where they were playing?


    I would probly tan thier rears for playing out on someones property without permission! And both of my kids know this so they would 1) never be on someones property when they do not belong there 2) If they did break #1 they would not tell me because they know they would get thier rears tanned!

    I am the type of father who is not affraid to disipline my kids! That is why I get nothing but complements on how well manered my kids are![;)][:D]
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    What would you do if you had kids and they told you someone pointed a gun at them even though a gun hadnt been pointed at them??? You are just asking for a confrontation from someone either a pissed of parent or the cops. Let me be clear I know a gun was never pointed. Its got nothing to do with balls its having a little common sence and thinking of what the consequences of your actions might be IMOquote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i was hit with some shot when i was a kid for trespassing on a pumpkin farm, i think it was falling shot from the farmer firing into the air, it was enough to discourage going back




    don't blame ya kevin one bit, hypothetically if there where a law against it i still wouldn't give a rat's *, anymore the justice system only protects the criminals, a man has to do what he has to do
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by riflemike
    What would you do if you had kids and they told you someone pointed a gun at them even though a gun hadnt been pointed at them??? You are just asking for a confrontation from someone either a pissed of parent or the cops. Let me be clear I know a gun was never pointed. Its got nothing to do with balls its having a little common sence and thinking of what the consequences of your actions might be IMOquote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    If your kid said a gun had been pointed at him and it wasn't, he's a liar and needs his * kicked. If you din't teach him any better than that then you need your * kicked. Just best to save yourself an asswhoopin' and stay off other people's property.
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    The wuss is the one who thinks he needs a gun to confront some kids, no matter whose property they are on. Some would call it common sense. Look it up, it used to be common. Don
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    The wuss is the one who thinks he needs a gun to confront some kids, no matter whose property they are on. Some would call it common sense. Look it up, it used to be common. Don


    *.


    Addendum: Then you need to quit being a wuss and confront GHD instead of me. Common sense dictates that if you don't know who your advisary is, you load for bear.
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    The wuss is the one who thinks he needs a gun to confront some kids, no matter whose property they are on. Some would call it common sense. Look it up, it used to be common. Don


    *.



    GRD handles the lightweight stuff around here. Don
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    next time grd post it here, and ask if it is kids or not[:)]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    The wuss is the one who thinks he needs a gun to confront some kids, no matter whose property they are on. Some would call it common sense. Look it up, it used to be common. Don


    *.



    GRD handles the lightweight stuff around here. Don
    I refuse to handle your work![}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    What a bunch of wussies.

    What GRD did was fine. It's his leased property, on his property and the weapon was not fired at, or even pointed toward anyone. GRD lives in a redneck area and is just trying to fit in. [:D] Hell, I carry a weapon at night on my property, it's just concealed unless I need it.

    Why do you folks with no balls even bother having firearms?





    The wuss is the one who thinks he needs a gun to confront some kids, no matter whose property they are on. Some would call it common sense. Look it up, it used to be common. Don


    *.



    GRD handles the lightweight stuff around here. Don
    I refuse to handle your work![}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)]



    Besides, only Dcon and and a few others have mouthes big enough.[}:)]
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