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Bush Lied???

wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
edited February 2004 in General Discussion
If you really believe that President BUSH lied,
THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ AND HE TOOK US TO WAR SOLELY FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES -- then please read this.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtl! ess usin g the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We a! lso shou ld remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has
also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK Us TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Boy! Talk about fork tongued, two faced, lying hypocrites!!!





Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: And he that hath no sword,let him sell his garment, and buy one

Comments

  • powdersmokepowdersmoke Member Posts: 3,241
    edited November -1
    So a politician lied to you, this is news how? When we mature we realize part of the job of politicians is to lie.

    Are their lips moving? They're lying.

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I LOVE IT!
    You know Republicans have hit rock bottom when they use what Clinton said to defend themselves.
    "THERE were WMDs, cause Clinton said there were WMDS".
    HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.
    I guess it all depends on what WMDs, is"

    "Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
    -Jimmy the cheese man
  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    Bush, the man-child...

    "Well, uh, well, see, uh see, Billy Clinton? He said, uh, that there were WMDs in Iraq, so I was, you know, I was just, like, saying what he was saying... I'm really too stupid and too immature to take any responsibility for my own words and actions."
  • wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
    edited November -1
    Salzo as usual you miss the point
    @ S%$^ for what it is You need to be a Democrap because you don't have the brains to pour pi$$ out of your boot

    Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: And he that hath no sword,let him sell his garment, and buy one
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wipala-The hypocrisy is irrelevant with respect to this post.
    The name of the post is "Bush lied".
    The name of the article in the post is "If you really believed that Bush lied....then please read this".
    And upon "reading this", we see several quotes from Bill Clinton dealing with WMDs, and we are supposed to infer that Clinton said it, and therefore it is true.
    So the article is saying that Bush didnt lie, because Clinton believed there to be WMDs.

    "Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
    -Jimmy the cheese man
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How Ironic that Bush is trying to blame the Democrats for his mistake. History will record Bush is the President who went into Iraq and did not find WMD. History will also tell ya'll that Clinton was smart enough NOT To start the war...
  • wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
    edited November -1
    quote: Wipala-The hypocrisy is irrelevant with respect to this post.
    The name of the post is "Bush lied".
    The name of the article in the post is "If you really believed that Bush lied....then please read this".


    Salzo The post title is BUSH LIED???
    I guess you don't know what a question mark is. I guess we will have to blame your eyesight or your education[}:)]

    Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: And he that hath no sword,let him sell his garment, and buy one
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    With respect to our discussion, the question mark is as irrelevant as the hypocrisy that you mentioned.

    Geez talk about hypocrisy-Ill bet you are the first one to wheeze about what a bunch of liars the democrats are, yet you use quotes from democrats to say that Bush isnt a liar.

    "Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
    -Jimmy the cheese man
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    I might be better titled as "Bush Lied?????" I also think the point was missed. The point seems to be, either our intelligence system has been flawed,incorrect or misrepresenting the truth since Clintons reign and most likely before or that knowledge of a problem and willingness to adress this problem has been in existance as far back as George Sr's. reign. Wipala seems to be trying to dispel the claims that GW is a war monger with evidence that this type of action was in the back of the minds of MANY of our leaders. While 9/11 may not have been directly related it may have been the catalyst needed to get the ball rolling. Had GW not gone forward it is likely that the next dem in the house would have been forced to.
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dakotashooter2
    Wipala seems to be trying to dispel the claims that GW is a war monger with evidence that this type of action was in the back of the minds of MANY of our leaders.




    I dont think so. Whatever Wipalas motives, that does not change the fact that the article is trying to claim that Bush was not lying, becaue a bunch of Democrats believed and said there were WMDs. I dont know what Wipala was trying to infer with this topic, because the original article only infers that Bush is not a liar, because Democrats believed there to be a WMDs threat.
    Now if Wipala titled this topic "IS GW A WAR MONGER???????????????????????????????????????????, then maybe I would agree with your asessment of the purpose of the topic.

    "Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
    -Jimmy the cheese man
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo.. good new topic .LMAO
  • Travis HallamTravis Hallam Member Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OKAY lets be fair. Bush Lied when he said he had not drank since a certain time (they had video of him drinking years after he supposedly quit)[:p].

    Clinton lied when he said he did not engage in sexual contact with Monica (not really a lie because he was confused with the deffinition of a big word)[:D].

    The moth truthful president is......

    Honest Abe Lincoln. The republicans won I guess.[:0]

    Who cares, so they both lie. They both lie about personal finances (they both had insider trading that would make Martha blush), both are professional politicians so it is their job to lie (at least it seems that way).[:(]



    Mad Dog
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    The major problem with politicians lying is that our servicemen die needlessly.[;)]

    I don't think a single military man or woman signed up to either rebuild Iraq or to bring democracy to Iraq; they might have been more under the impression they were protecting the US of A!

    And in case everyone forgot, Iraq was not involved in 9/11--remember???? [}:)] As a reminder, it was Osama Bin Forgotten.





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  • NOSLEEPNOSLEEP Member Posts: 4,526
    edited November -1
    Some of you guys have found a way to give the word
    "NAIVE" a new meaning.
    Your so concerned that your candidate or political affiliation is
    right, that its obvious your last concern is for your fellow
    country man. or your country.[V][:X]

    Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not,
    and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is.
  • wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,067
    edited November -1
    quote:SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK Us TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

    Boy! Talk about fork tongued, two faced, lying hypocrites!!!

    So Salzo you missed this part of the article. The same people who were harping about the WMDs now claim there were never any and bush made it all up to help out Haliburton. The entire point was the hypocracy of the same people who said there were WMDs now saying Bush was lying.

    Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: And he that hath no sword,let him sell his garment, and buy one
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hairy , Bush had to go after someone. Bid Laden is probably already caught. Bush will get him out around election day so he Might have a chance to win...
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    America does not have to worry about the likes of UBL and Hussein. Hell, the Democrats will destroy us and our way of life just for the sake of getting back in power. What a bunch of spoiled children they are.

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed"

    NRA Life Member
  • pablopablo Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are all liberals that stupid, NO just sneaky liers. Look back a few years here in Milwaukee with the Smokes For Votes. If a Republican had done that it would have went alot further. Just thank God the clinton years are done.
  • WagionWagion Member Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All presidents lie what's new show me an honest president and Ill show you a liar

    If force ain't work'n... Your not use'n nough of it.
    I know the spelling is bad but guess what I DON'T CARE
  • NOSLEEPNOSLEEP Member Posts: 4,526
    edited November -1
    President Jimmy Carter.
    Remember u said liar.

    Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not,
    and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is.
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