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Cop Trying to Kill the Family Dog, Kills Woman ?

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Here's a twist on a cop killing and he walk!

serf

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-kill-family-dog-kills-woman-instead-front-husband-4-year-old-son/

This is a tragic case of police incompetence. The very government agency who claims the authority to carry deadly weapons into all situations often disregard this heavy responsibility and end up hurting those they ostensibly protect.

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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    yep needs to be Are your Skeerd of Dogs on their Application.......
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html
    Am I supposed to be surprised by that outcome?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html
    Am I supposed to be surprised by that outcome?


    Nope! But did he even hit the dog once with a shot? I doubt it. The cop is incompetent and should find a desk job in the future.He took a life for nothing for being afraid and losing his stance.

    serf

    http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/12/aspca-most-instances-of-police-shooting-dogs-are-avoidable/

    Animal rights and behavior experts say police execute these dogs because of prejudice, or even worse, simply because it is more convenient. It is more convenient for a cop to shoot a furry family member than to think of a better solution.

    It would be understandable if these dogs were actual threats, but there is not one documented case of a dog killing a police officer. There aren't even very many dog bites. According to the NYPD's 2011 Firearms discharge report, there were 28,000 calls to police about dogs or other animals. Out of 28,000 calls, only five officers and two civilians were bitten during shooting incidents.

    serf
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html


    and.....i have been bitten ..didnt kill a person because of it..no i aint a cop ....so what.....carry on ......
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by serf
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html
    Am I supposed to be surprised by that outcome?


    Nope! But did he even hit the dog once with a shot? I doubt it. The cop is incompetent and should find a desk job in the future.He took a life for nothing for being afraid and losing his stance.

    serf

    http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/12/aspca-most-instances-of-police-shooting-dogs-are-avoidable/

    Animal rights and behavior experts say police execute these dogs because of prejudice, or even worse, simply because it is more convenient. It is more convenient for a cop to shoot a furry family member than to think of a better solution.

    It would be understandable if these dogs were actual threats, but there is not one documented case of a dog killing a police officer. There aren't even very many dog bites. According to the NYPD's 2011 Firearms discharge report, there were 28,000 calls to police about dogs or other animals. Out of 28,000 calls, only five officers and two civilians were bitten during shooting incidents.

    serf


    yep bunch of p---y with guns imho
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    The officer was cleared,, "body camera evidence". Dog was German Shepherd and the officer was bitten.

    http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/burlington-police-officer-cleared-in-fatal-shooting/article_699d6064-becb-11e4-a29d-7b8e88d74960.html
    Am I supposed to be surprised by that outcome?



    Yep just like the cop here who shot a guy 15 times during a so-called struggle. Yp he got fired but this week is attempting to get his job back.
  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pepper spray works on dogs. My little brother is the local mailman and that's what he carries. Over the past 30+ years he has been bitten 5 times; 3 of those were bad enough that he missed work. But, that was early in his career. Since he started carrying police-grade chemical deterrents, he has been bitten 0 times. The U.S.P.S. takes dog bite incidents very seriously.
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    so now if you want to kill someone in Iowa, just wait and shoot them while they are walking their dog. Then you will be cleared too!
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
    so now if you want to kill someone in Iowa, just wait and shoot them while they are walking their dog. Then you will be cleared too!
    Appears to be the case.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • WranglerWrangler Member Posts: 5,788
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I guess you have never been bitten by anything before and know nothing of the damage that can be done. Kick an ankle biter and blast the bigger ones if they come at you! [;)]
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I guess you have never been bitten by anything before and know nothing of the damage that can be done. Kick an ankle biter and blast the bigger ones if they come at you! [;)]
    In fact I have been bitten by a large dog. Took me off my bicycle by my leg. Never felt the need to shoot it though.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    I wonder if I'd be cleared of any wrong doing if my neighbors dog attacked me and I accidentally shot my neighbor in the chest a killed them?
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SG
    I wonder if I'd be cleared of any wrong doing if my neighbors dog attacked me and I accidentally shot my neighbor in the chest a killed them?
    Perhaps if you're wearing the right badge at the time.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If a dog bites me and I'm not in it's house or yard, I'd shoot it.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I guess you have never been bitten by anything before and know nothing of the damage that can be done. Kick an ankle biter and blast the bigger ones if they come at you! [;)]
    In fact I have been bitten by a large dog. Took me off my bicycle by my leg. Never felt the need to shoot it though.


    I have been bitten four times. Most of them on my paper route as a kid. The worst tore my right ankle to shreds, the owner knew the dog was vicious, knew it attacked people yet let it run most days. I got bit, went home got patched up by mom grabbed my Remington 788 in 222 went back on my bike sat across the railroad tracks and blew the dogs brains out while it was on a chain. The owner knew I did it and never said a word to me.

    If a dog bites me, it dies.
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Dad was a milkman back in the day when they did home deliveries. He had several routes that he ran. Some of the places had dogs that he knew to be wary about. A spray bottle of ammonia was always hanging off the dash for emergencies.

    Regarding police officers, a(and everyone else for that matter), I tend to believe that if your only tool is a hammer, you will see all your problems as nails.

    Maybe we could all just use a few more tools in our toolbox.
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That cop needs a desk job...
  • Oso2142Oso2142 Member Posts: 2,940
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Cops sure are wusses when it comes to dogs. If dogs are such a threat to them, what are they doing on the force in the first place? It sure seems like that should be the first question a department asks a potential officer "Are you afraid of dogs: 'yes', 'no', 'sometimes', 'I wet myself at the thought'". Seems like there'd be a lot of potential cops answering with the latter of those options.


    This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I guess you have never been bitten by anything before and know nothing of the damage that can be done. Kick an ankle biter and blast the bigger ones if they come at you! [;)]
    In fact I have been bitten by a large dog. Took me off my bicycle by my leg. Never felt the need to shoot it though.


    I have been bitten four times. Most of them on my paper route as a kid. The worst tore my right ankle to shreds, the owner knew the dog was vicious, knew it attacked people yet let it run most days. I got bit, went home got patched up by mom grabbed my Remington 788 in 222 went back on my bike sat across the railroad tracks and blew the dogs brains out while it was on a chain. The owner knew I did it and never said a word to me.

    If a dog bites me, it dies.


    Good post!

    If a dog posses a legitimate threat to an officer, or anybody else, off it goes. I know you guys love your dogs, and I don't blame you, but a "pet" dog should never attack a police officer. And, if it does, it's dealt with - lethal force, and don't show your tears to me.

    I don't like to hear about a much loved dog put down by a police officer. However, a police officer injured by that much loved dog is intolerable.
  • 96harley96harley Member Posts: 3,992 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The dogs I have concern about are the meth and dope dogs the dirt sacks have as pets. Ninety percent are pit bulls. You see the tattooed wonders walking these aggressive beast on chains while the meat grinder pulls a cinder block down the sidewalk. I will put a round through one if it comes at me.

    Our own canine, a Belgium Mel...something, locked in on me when I stopped to assist on a drug stop and I was off duty. All I saw was a mouth full of teeth as he pinned me against my car, bounced off my chest and didn't leave a scratch. I was lucky and had a guardian angel on my side.

    The woman' untimely death is an unfortunate situation. A first grade kid can be an armchair quarterback. How many gun totting second amendment supporters who claim to be gun experts, more of them that cops, would have done the same had a land shark attacked them?
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    Years ago a Police officer came to the house
    to deliver my pistol permit renewal.
    That's how they do it here,you go to the station
    fill out the necessary paperwork,pay
    and they deliver it to your home.
    Officer comes to the house my dog (springer)
    started growling ,he told
    me to let the dog go and the mutt bit him.
    The officer was an older guy prolly 50 so
    he obviously knew some dogs are protective
    and don't deserve to be shot, He did give him
    a good kick. End of story.
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    so now there are a bunch of the womans relitives who didn,t fail the police exam or are crimminals who will hate the police, to me with good reason. to shoot the dog is one thing, but to kill its owner is a whole new ball of wax. according to T.S. uncle albert, shoot the dog, shoot the dog.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found that Mace (bear spray)works well enough and is far safer for all involved than firearms. Over 30 years of dealing with dogs in yards and only got bit once(chihuahua). I did inform a homeowner a couple of years ago that I was armed and authorized to protect myself after he loosed his dog on me-but I had no real intention of doing so(the threat was enough).
    That kind of cop is stomping around all over the country and woe to the poor citizen who encounters one and gives any sort of reason to be shot.
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remember cops have immunity from the state and letting this cop walked after killing an innocent bystander is a outrageous protection of a incompetence cop.

    Just like when The USA Military cannot get immunity in foreign operations the cops would all walk out if they could be held libel.

    And Remember cops testimony is always believed by a grand jury over a common citizen testimony and in court too.

    I had a jury trial before with a speed trap incident.Even after proving the flashing yellow lights were off around two areas the static sign with stated hours prevailed even if the other areas were not.

    It's all a set up and the cops know the game well. Thank G-d I never had a felony trial because then they can take your time and money but that poor women lost her life!

    I wonder if even the police sent flowers to funeral home?

    serf
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    Cops under cetain cicumstances are
    liable for their own actions,especially
    where serious injury or death is involved.
    The "immunity" law isn't cut and dry.
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