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Gun ID legislation may trigger exodus of gunmakers

beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
edited August 2012 in General Discussion
Two venerable American gun manufacturers - Remington and Colt - could head for the West their weapons helped win if New York and Connecticut force them to implement microstamping technology.

Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a patented process that uses laser technology to engrave a tiny marking of the make, model and serial number on the tip of a gun's firing pin to allow an imprint of that information on spent cartridge cases. Supporters of the technology say it will be a "game changer," allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes. Opponents claim the process is costly, unreliable and may ultimately impact the local economies that heavily depend on the gun industry, including Ilion, N.Y., where Remington Arms maintains a factory, and Hartford, Conn., where Colt's manufacturing is headquartered.

"Mandatory microstamping would have an immediate impact of a loss of 50 jobs," New York State Sen. James Seward, a Republican whose district includes Ilion, said, adding that Remington employs 1,100 workers in the town. "You're talking about a company that has options in other states. Why should they be in a state that's hostile to legal gun manufacturing? There could be serious negative economic impact with the passage of microstamping and other gun-control laws."

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  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd love to see Colt or Remington relocate out this way! What a boom for the local economy!
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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes


    Here we go again what registration.

    Also this would mean you had better collect all your brass at the range and you had better get it all.
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  • 4627046270 Member Posts: 12,627
    edited November -1
    Like to see them come south.[:D]
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  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    Colt still makes guns? I thought they were just in the business of suing people for copyright and trademark infringement...[}:)]
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  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i would just polish the fireing pin tip[;)]
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  • topdadtopdad Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    And after this, would it be a crime to polish the end of your firing pin with fine emory cloth ?
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  • BT99BT99 Member Posts: 1,043 ✭
    edited November -1
    I would like to see a 10 digit serial number on the tip of a firing pin and then have them imprint it on a primer and have someone read it.
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  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443 ✭
    edited November -1
    Awesome.
    Doesn't Colt make wheel guns too?

    I call BS on this one.
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  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes


    Here we go again what registration.

    Also this would mean you had better collect all your brass at the range and you had better get it all.

    would only be an issue if someone took your un-altered brass and tossed it around the crime scene
    "firing pin" would leave the stamp on the primer which is discarded in the first step of re-load would it not?
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tin hats and tall boots needed here.
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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by oldemagics
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes


    Here we go again what registration.

    Also this would mean you had better collect all your brass at the range and you had better get it all.

    would only be an issue if someone took your un-altered brass and tossed it around the crime scene
    "firing pin" would leave the stamp on the primer which is discarded in the first step of re-load would it not?


    What better way to confuse the crime seen having a bunch of different weapons stamps there.
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  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That makes about as much sense as this board does sometimes---crime will drop to 0 if implemented--as above -just through out about 20 pieces of brass from differnt guns---the dicktectives would love that-[|)]
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 22,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I fore see lots of square and rectangle firing pins real soon.
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  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    More taxpayer money squandered,
    buying high precision gizmos
    to read the number after it has
    been distorted in fired primer.
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  • WulfmannWulfmann Member Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, so you buy a Colt AR or 1911 or maybe a Rem-700 and you decide you want a titanium firing pin.

    How stupid are these people?

    That is like saying we can ID a bank robber if we implant numbers on gas caps.

    Just when you thought these idiots were as dumb as they could get they fool you and rise to new never before thought possibilities of ridiculous

    Wulfmann
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    "Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
    Otto von Bismarck
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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,233 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    i would just polish the fireing pin tip[;)]
    Yep, or buy an aftermarket firing pin.
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  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    ALL firing pins will be REGISTERED
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Use a brass catcher or revolver during your next drive by shooting spree in da hood.
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  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022 ✭
    edited November -1
    I tire of watching crime dramas on TV that go on about how they can ID a shooter by looking at the spent bullet or cartridge case. Saw one last night that had the medical examiner deduce the "individual markings on the bullet" from the bullet holes in bone, and thence ID the shooter's make and model of gun. Such BS! Great fiction, but the pizza-eaters watching at home believe it.

    We will NEVER see a Hollywood script where someone is framed because the real shooter tossed their brass around a crime scene. [V]
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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    Use a brass catcher or revolver during your next drive by shooting spree in da hood.


    Then throw out brass from the range that you have collected.
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  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    xx
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  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    For some reason,I can't edit a reply
    or unsubscribe to this post[?]
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  • MFIMFI Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They have been talking about it for years here in NYS. Going to kill my handgun business needless to say. Also will hurt our economy as well.
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your goal is to dick with the authorities, you just visit the local range ahead of time and fill you pockets with a wide assortment of brass, to be later distributed at the crime scene. But, if you are serious about just getting the job done and leaving as few clues as possible, just use a revolver. If you are still worried about forensics, use a Dan Wesson and put a new barrel on just after you leave the crime scene and dispose of the old barrel. So much for rifling marks on the bullet.[:D]
    Those idjits just don't use any common sense. All restrictive gun laws fall into the category of "well, we HAVE to do SOMETHING or the people will think we don't care about violence." So, they jump on anything they can publicize, whether it makes sense or not. Like I said, idjits. [xx(]
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  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rong
    For some reason,I can't edit a reply
    or unsubscribe to this post[?]


    You get an email every time someone responds? And you can't make it stop?
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  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    Generally,I can unsubscribe
    to a post and no more emails.
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