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Enlighten me

beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2004 in General Discussion
Why on earth would a 62 year old man put himself in such a position that he could end up in the federal pen for 10 years? What is the big attraction to a sawed off shotgun that would tempt this man to risk ruining his life? Please see excerpt below.

A Mountain Grove man has pleaded guilty in federal court to charges he illegally possessed two sawed-off shotguns, said Todd P. Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Missouri.

William Earl Gates, 62, owner of the Marshfield-based Gator's Pawn, was set for trial Wednesday but instead pleaded. He was alleged to have possessed the .410-gauge shotguns, both with illegal barrel lengths shorter than 18 inches and neither registered to Gates, Graves said in a statement.

Gates could face a sentence of up to 10 years in federal prison without parole, plus a fine up to $250,000.
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  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
    edited November -1
    What about those 410 pistols with the six inch barrels? Stupid law! Stupid mistake too.

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  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:but you can cut a rifle barrel off to as short as you so desire and it's ok.

    Unnnn..here is some more jail time.
    Lots of misinformation out there...

    The REAL stupidity...is a Nation of stupid sheep..allowing the Elites to put such trash on our heads.We don't deserve a free country.

    LUCKILY...we don't have one.
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  • BOBBYWINSBOBBYWINS Member Posts: 7,810
    edited November -1
    A rifle barrel can't be less than 16" w/a minimum overall length of 26".

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    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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  • eastwood44mageastwood44mag Member Posts: 2,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BOBBYWINS
    A rifle barrel can't be less than 16" w/a minimum overall length of 26".

    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.


    And yet you can spend an extra $300 to get one from the manufacturer in a handgun configuration.

    Stupid people in large numbers[:(!]

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  • BOBBYWINSBOBBYWINS Member Posts: 7,810
    edited November -1
    Exactly!!

    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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  • Henry0ReillyHenry0Reilly Member Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It could be that the man had antique Stevens 410 pistols that were not registered by the cut-off date. I saw a pair of them in a gunshop in the 70's, in to have the wood refinished. The term "sawed-off" might have been added by the media.

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  • flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are 20,000 gun laws on the books. When will you run afoul of one?
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  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    I knew a fellow that had a Harrington & Richardson 410 Handy Gun, which was included in that short barreled shotgun nonsense. It was a single shot and was spectacular at it's intended use- obtaining game for the pot while on deep woods trips. As far as being a gun to commit crime with, one would have to be a little short of a full load to consider it as having any advantage, but then consider those that enacted the law.
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  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, interesting observations and comments. Frankly, I can understand why a guy would like a machine gun as a toy but not this shotgun. I will follow his story and post the actual sentence the judge imposes on this man.

    Bruce
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  • dipitsdipits Member Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You are allowed to have 410 pistol if it has rifling????????!!!!!!
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