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Serious question in regards to protecting the home
Big Sky Redneck
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In the many posts I have read here in the last few years it seems that there are some here who are itching to shoot someone. What I want to know is do you really feel it is the right thing to do to shoot someone for something as simple as trespassing or stealing the TV from your living room? Some have said the being in the house is a death sentence for the perp. Is that really how it should be? For myself one of my biggest fears is having to shoot another person, that fear dictates how I conduct myself when it comes to home protection. I will confront a burglar gun in hand but in no way will I shoot unless it is an absolute only choice. I do not like the idea of killing a person under most circumstanses and someone stealing my TV is not going to get shot. I am not for protecting the criminals at all, I just don't feal that a death penalty is the answer for all criminals. I am all for harsh punishment, chain gangs, hard labor, life in prison and so on. Death penalty for the violents is a good thing and should be adminstered more often but I myself cannot shoot someone for commiting theft or trespassing.
Am I on the wrong side of the fence thinking this way? Maybe blasting all criminals into hell would be a good deterrant to crime but then on the other hand isnt this what we pay the cops and judges for, to arrest and punsih severly those who would violate our homes and lives?
Talk is cheap and there is alot of it going on, it sounds cool I guess to sound off by saying, "come into my house and I will kill you just for being there" but could you really do it? Another question, those of you who wish death upon a thief have you ever seen a dead person? I have and it isnt pretty.
Now when it comes to endagering my family yes I will shoot but for a common thief who is only interested in stealing I will do my best to identify the person or hold him for the cops. And to say, "well I was in danger just because he was there" is kinda rediculous, not to side with the criminals but do you honestly believe that every thief is a murderer or rapist intent on doing harm?
I'm rambling, sorry but this bugs me that some cannot wait to kill. Maybe they need to join the military so they can get some trigger time.
Am I on the wrong side of the fence thinking this way? Maybe blasting all criminals into hell would be a good deterrant to crime but then on the other hand isnt this what we pay the cops and judges for, to arrest and punsih severly those who would violate our homes and lives?
Talk is cheap and there is alot of it going on, it sounds cool I guess to sound off by saying, "come into my house and I will kill you just for being there" but could you really do it? Another question, those of you who wish death upon a thief have you ever seen a dead person? I have and it isnt pretty.
Now when it comes to endagering my family yes I will shoot but for a common thief who is only interested in stealing I will do my best to identify the person or hold him for the cops. And to say, "well I was in danger just because he was there" is kinda rediculous, not to side with the criminals but do you honestly believe that every thief is a murderer or rapist intent on doing harm?
I'm rambling, sorry but this bugs me that some cannot wait to kill. Maybe they need to join the military so they can get some trigger time.
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I can honestly say that the last thing I want to do is to open fire inside my own home, with ANY firearm, in ANY direction, at ANY target!
BUT,,,, I would if necessary.
And that's my serious answer to your serious question.....
Sure, I can afford to have my television stolen... it's just stuff, right? Surely a $100, $200, or even $1000 dollar TV isn't worth a human life, right?
But what happens when that thief breaks into a single woman's apartment? And what if he decides to have himself a little "party" before he carts her stuff away? Suddenly my decision to NOT shoot that intruder has consequences that someone else will pay for.
Admittedly, those are big "if's." But they are "if's" I'm not willing to bet someone else's safety on.
And to say, "well I was in danger just because he was there" is kinda rediculous...
...unless, of course, you live in a rural area and shop at CO-OP and are talking about a dog.
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The way I see it is the person who breaks into someones house has made the choice freely knowing there is a risk of being shot. Home intruders will never get my sympathy.
How many times on the news do you hear of one of these thugs getting arrested (again) and when the reporter starts reading down his/her rap sheet, it sounds like this slime is just going down the list of actions that are illegal? Seeing how many he/she can get away with. Starts off with petty crimes and progressively worsens to a point, where all you can do is shake your head, and wonder why this slime is still on the street. They are on probation for their last assault and battery, or out on parole for armed robbery, rape, or murder. These are the kinds of thugs you hear about all the time.
These facts would be going through my mind if I was to confront anyone that was uninvited in my home. The VERY LAST thing I would want to do is put a hole in anyone. But if I had NO CHOICE....well....read the next line.....
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So - would I shoot an intruder coming into my home? - I wont know until it happens, but if it does, there are gonna be very few seconds for the intruder to prove he should not be shot. I do not care what the intent is he/she is invading my home for something of MINE. Most criminals are opportunistic (sp- it's late) and most will escalate their crimes. Given those 2 facts - I will defend my family/home/possessions, and I will feel no remorse as I will not have created the situation, only reacting to their crime. Everybody reacts differently in uncommon stressful situations - who is to say what is right or wrong, when you wake up to the sound of an intruder in your own home???
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When I worked overnights in a gas station I drew on a punk that reached behind his back and then reached accross the counter and grabbed my collar. He backed off at the sight of the gun, if he hadn't, he would have died and I would have taken my chances with a jury. He was a drunken wisea$$ kid that grew up a few years in a few minutes. He thought he was being funny trying to intimidate me into selling him something he wasn't old enough to have at an hour that was after the time it could be legally bought. At the time I believed he was really reaching for a knife or gun and trying to rob me.
If someone were in my yard breaking into an outbuilding or my truck I might try and hold them at gunpoint, but I also know the gun going off would make me the criminal in this state. I'd more likely go out and try and kick some butt the old fashioned way if I knew the odds up front. But, even more likely, I'd just let my tax dollars do thier job and let the sherrif deputy do his job.
Inside the house uninvited, sorry the assumption will be made that they intend * harm and they will get shot.
Would I jump up and down beating my chest if I did have to shoot somebody. Nope it would probably devastate me emotionally and I know it. I've seen too many births and deaths in my time to hold life less sacred that that.
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I think I'd shoot the T.V. If he is a "three strikes" candidate, he may retaliate with deadly force. No choice then. Most perps get in and out in 60 seconds. Chances there is an accomplice in the wings. Watch it if he gets chatty. Keep your back against a wall and watch his eyes.
A leg shot can always be explained as "He lunged at me. It was an AD."
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Where I live is allegedly a "nice" neighborhood on the edge of the "war zone". There is NO police presence to deter or otherwise impede mayhem, robbery or crimes against a person. APD is comprised of a pack of thugs, dullards, Military rejects, dropouts, brown-nosers and criminals. I don't let THEM into my domicile on the occasional visit to write another report about a burglary/shooting.
Someone toting off my TV? Whether inside or outside; if they've gotten in past the alarm, video, dogs, gas & "surprises", they deserve to be shot because they have made SEVERAL conscious decisions to proceed with criminal behavior at each step.
I'm not some bloodthirsty psycho salivating at the thought of making another notch on my gunstock; I'm being realistic.
I've seen dead people.
I've made a few.
They're really not pretty when a projectile has removed portions of their * features, or partially severed a limb.
The "cops & judges" we pay for are all wannabee social engineers, trying to reintegrate these miscreants into society without regard for their propensity to commit more and more violent, risky crimes until someone removes them from the playing field.
That being said however; I think it illustrates how different places have different ways to rationalize/explain away shortcomings in our judicial system-even going so far as to change citizens' behavior when faced with a serious personal threat.
I hope you can talk them out of taking everything they want while dialing 911, juggling a pistol, watching their hands, listening for sirens, and attempting to reason.
If you know it all; you must have been listening.<br>WEAR EAR PROTECTION!
Now when it comes to endagering my family yes I will shoot but for a common thief who is only interested in stealing I will do my best to identify the person or hold him for the cops. And to say, "well I was in danger just because he was there" is kinda rediculous, not to side with the criminals but do you honestly believe that every thief is a murderer or rapist intent on doing harm?
I know that every thief is not a murderer or rapist. But the thief who has taken the extraordinary step of coming into my home? I dont know what his intentions are, and I do not think it is ridiculous for a home owner, who has just been burglarized to assume that there is a probabilty that the burglar will cause you harm.
The fact that this burglar invaded your home should be enoug justification for a homeowner to use lethal force. Not as a punishment, but becaue it is reasonable for a homeowner to assume that the guy who just entered your house, who broke the law, who invaded the one place that a person should be safe, is capable of causing harm.
I think it is "unsafe" to try and identify what the burglars intent is. You have too much to risk. Does he have a gun? A knife? Is he just stealing my TV, or is he going to rape my wife and kill my kids? Takes too much time to do all of that, time that can cost you your life. Dirt nap time.
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