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Elephant dropped,, like a rock..
fishkiller41
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Dude drops this animal, like a sack of potatoes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCpa8OQRosM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCpa8OQRosM&feature=related
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Only difference is you can buy a snow-cone at the zoo.
Just my opinion.
We don't know the whole story on the critter. He might have been a rogue. That's plenty of reason.
I don't want to shoot any of 'em though.
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I also have absolutely no desire to kill an elephant, a bear, a lion, or any of those other awesome creatures, but then I'm not all that motivated to shoot deer, either. And what is to me an awesome creature is not an awesome creature to the next guy. If invited on a deer or elk or pheasant hunt I'd definitely go, but I'm not interested enough to figure it out for myself.
Just different strokes, I think.
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I personally don't want to shoot one, but if he were killing my fellow villagers, destroying my crops or defiling my water supply, I might be happy to see someone else drop him and remove the nuisance.
A few folks here that might hunt, but see no reason to kill an elephant.
I personally don't want to shoot one, but if he were killing my fellow villagers, destroying my crops or defiling my water supply, I might be happy to see someone else drop him and remove the nuisance.
I don't think you'll find anywhere in the world anymore where elephants roam outside of parks or game ranches. In other words, I don't think there's anywhere in the world that elephants are destroying crops or killing villagers. Except maybe when the circus elephant goes on a rampage somewhere in Maui.
Don't get me wrong: even in game parks, the elephant herds need culling, but I think for the most part, we've got them fenced.
quote: In the Indian state of Jharkhand, 300 people were killed by elephants between 2000 and 2004. In Assam, 239 people have been killed by elephants since 2001.
This one is truly hard to watch,yet part of every-day life, on the dark continent...
I was born and lived there for 11 years, and I never saw anything like that. Africa does not look like that, any more. Africa has massive social problems, but its wildlife problems are about poaching, or about illegal aliens getting attacked when they try to use game parks as travel routes.
That video might have showed what a traditional hunt looked like, but that ain't it, today. Today, the people encountering wild beasts that might kill them are mostly illegal aliens, crossing borders through game parks, where people should no longer be.
There are too many elephants and they need to be managed. That is why.
Yes. And imagine the poverty stricken lands where they roam. You think deer do crop damage here in America? A deer is a MOUSE compared to the amount of vegetation a single elephant consumes in one day.
...Nice kill shot on that big sucker! Under the right circumstance, I would shoot one, but just to hunt one for huntings sake, nah..I don't have a room big enough to display the mount...[:D]
I hate to seem contentious, but what's the difference between killing an elephant, or a lion, or other African or exotic game and killing a a deer?
have you ever eaten an elephant or lion??????
quote:Originally posted by tacking1
I hate to seem contentious, but what's the difference between killing an elephant, or a lion, or other African or exotic game and killing a a deer?
have you ever eaten an elephant or lion??????
No. Your point?
Brain shots drop mammals,and often produce leg tremors in animals.
Life and and cultures are amazing different, and sometimes very difficult to adjust to or even accept. Our feelings don't provide a proper perspective of real life for other countries, and cultures.
Have a letter by the Consulate of British Embassy that 'gives permission' to shoot on sight any armed poachers only while hunting. Armed is the operative word since many have at least a semi auto, and more often than not....full autos. Lots of military guns available, plus poachers are already illegal, and by many simply considered scum who won't hesitate to kill an entire hunting party, and do raid & rape villages. Life is different in the bush
Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.
Well, never had to do it, but I doubt I would eat a burglar.
But if a critter was putting my survival in jeopardy, such as a lion, or elephant might, I would have no problem killing it. Especially one which has no other natural predators.
I'm sure there are plenty here that have killed nuisance species before. Survival of the fittest didn't end with Darwin.
A few folks here that might hunt, but see no reason to kill an elephant.
I personally don't want to shoot one, but if he were killing my fellow villagers, destroying my crops or defiling my water supply, I might be happy to see someone else drop him and remove the nuisance.
Yep, or just like anywhere..the game needs to be managed.
Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.
Never?
What about a mouse or rat in the house or barn?
Coyote or fox raiding the hen house?
Grizzly bear attacking a human?
There are too many elephants and they need to be managed. That is why.
Road Apples, people is what there is too many of.
Life and and cultures are amazing different, and sometimes very difficult to adjust to or even accept. Our feelings don't provide a proper perspective of real life for other countries, and cultures.
.....Life is different in the bush
well said
As for the 1st video... It is highly unlikely that this was a "rouge" bull. Odds are the bull to cow ratio of a particular herd was incorrect or the size of a heard had reached the local carrying capacity. Then some westerner who read too much Capstick paid a ton of money to fulfill a dream. Not really hunting, more of an execution by my standards but I believe it has its place.
As for the 2nd video... That was hard to watch. I sure hope that was true subsistence hunting and not grand standing for the camera. I'm thankful that I have the opportunity to be a sport hunter and that my family (or a village)doesn't count on me to kill for our food.
quote:Originally posted by alledan
Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.
Never?
What about a mouse or rat in the house or barn?
Coyote or fox raiding the hen house?
Grizzly bear attacking a human?
Hell, I love Chinese!!!
It is all in the seasoning.....
IMNSHO, it takes a lot of sand to take on a Cape buffalo, elephant, or hippo with a spear, even in a group.
Yea.. But you need to remember that in India and a few other countries. Elephants are used as beast of burdens much like the Horse and Oxen were used here until steam and internal combustion engines were invented.
Looks like it took some of those elephants 20+ minutes to die.
Never kill anything that you can't or won't eat.
Crows, Yotes, rats, mice, mosquitos, ferrel cats. these are some of the things Ive killed and not eaten.
A few notes on this subject.
The big heydays of elephant hunting were a long time ago. There were plenty of them. Sure the ivory and sport were the desires of the primarily European hunters, but the entire animal was used. The local tribes and porters that assitted with the hunts help not only for money, but also on the promise of getting fresh meat.
The big thing, though, is to remember that it was a TOTALLY DIFFERENT TIME THEN. Africa was different too.
If properly managed so as to keep the numbers up, and it is done humanely, I don't see anything wrong with hunting elephant, rhino, etc. One could easily point out that elephant and rhino hunters have bigger b@lls than any of us deer hunters as if you manage to just p*ss off the elephant, you might get, quite literally, torn apart. Read some of Capstick's stories about that.
A short time back I posted a few pics of the famous hunter Sasha Siemel, the jaguar hunter of South America back near the turn of last century. Almost everyone condemed him and quite a few expressed wishes that he had been killed by what he hunted. This comes from a total lack of perspective, mainly by non-hunters, but some modern hunters as well. It comes from not being able to disconnect oneself from the present day and imagine that things have ever been any different than they are right now.
Siemel, BTW, hunted jaguars a lot of the time with a FREAKIN' SPEAR on FOOT. He would often be hired to go after man eaters and killers of cattle.
Who knows, in another 80+ years, you grandchildren may look back at pictures and say: "Good Lord, Grandpa was a totally barbaric deginerate! Why would he go out of his way to kill poor defenseless deer! Especially since they're endangered! I wish some of those buck could have caught him in their horns." (Like I said, just a hypothetical situation.)
I'll have to check out the videos when I get home.