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Moron Texas cop
Anonymouse
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The 19 year old driver was just in a car wreck. So the cop hits him with a taser, twice, just because the kid did not immediately give him his license etc. The kid could have easily had a severe head or neck injury and this cop hits him with a taser. Turns out the kid was in a hypoglycemic state. Remember, you must OBEY! Even if you are in diabetic shock.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/24/diabetic-cleburne-teen-hit-with-taser-after-crash/
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/24/diabetic-cleburne-teen-hit-with-taser-after-crash/
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They just cant seem to not abuse the use of Them.
I remember a year or two ago when a big Brace Policeman tased a 81 year old Woman that was Bed Ridden because She was in a threatening position.
By the way, there is no such thing as a "Taser," and it is impossible to "tase" someone.
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+1
Regardless of what really happened, you can make book that the lawyers are swarming! [;)][:D]
LEO's could always go back to the old days and beat the hell out of them with a Kel-light or night stick.
ahhh the good ole days, when criminals knew taking a beating was just part of the process. [8D]
quote:Originally posted by deputydog214
LEO's could always go back to the old days and beat the hell out of them with a Kel-light or night stick.
ahhh the good ole days, when criminals knew taking a beating was just part of the process. [8D]
Them 4-cell Mag lites really hurt!
(or so I've been told)[8D]
It happened several months ago and the only reason this story was run was to announce a settlement had been reached.
The issue here was not whether the cop was a moron as much as his agency's failure to train it's personnel and policies which call for use of a TASER in the face of passive resistance. It appears they're one of the many which require it before laying hands on to avoid the possibility (and liability) of injury.
That being said...
I'd like to hear if this guy still has a driver's license. That TASER caused a few seconds of discomfort with no lasting effect, but his actions clearly placed a lot of people's lives in danger out there that day.
I have sympathy for his condition, but if it can't be managed any better than this he doesn't need to be driving.
my bad.
Why was the boy's sugar low, instead of high? Do you guys think he hit his insulin too hard?
This is very old news.
It happened several months ago and the only reason this story was run was to announce a settlement had been reached.
The issue here was not whether the cop was a moron as much as his agency's failure to train it's personnel and policies which call for use of a TASER in the face of passive resistance. It appears they're one of the many which require it before laying hands on to avoid the possibility (and liability) of injury.
That being said...
I'd like to hear if this guy still has a driver's license. That TASER caused a few seconds of discomfort with no lasting effect, but his actions clearly placed a lot of people's lives in danger out there that day.
I have sympathy for his condition, but if it can't be managed any better than this he doesn't need to be driving.
It is amazing how certain people can justify just about any action by a cop. Or put the blame on the victim. Or both. By your reasoning, ANYONE with many types of medical conditions should not be allowed to drive, just in case they have some sort of attack while they are driving and become incapacitated. That would include all those people on this forum that are on all those pain killers they pop every day, now wouldn't it? And all those people on this forum that are on heart medication, and just about anyone over the age of 40, since they may have a heart attack while driving. Guess they should not be allowed firearms either, should they? Since they could have some sort of medical emergency while using a firearm and shoot someone or themselves accidentally. Or be allowed to operate a boat, or ATV, etc. How about all those just plain old people that can hardly see, or hear, and can barely respond to changing driving situations? Why should they be still driving? Many of them are just a heart beat away from a medical emergency while they are driving. Just today, I was leaving the store and an elderly woman was having trouble getting her car unlocked and asked me for help. Guess what? It wasn't even her car. Once we found her car, she got in and frailly drove away. A medical emergency while driving, just waiting to happen. Maybe a cop will TASER her too, when she is non-responsive. Better just take everyone's license away who has any sort of medical condition or who is over 60 years old, just to be safe.
I carry a TASER, but I haven't had to use it yet.
By the way, there is no such thing as a "Taser," and it is impossible to "tase" someone.
Ok. I'll bite.
Do tell. Does it start with it all having to be caps?
quote:Originally posted by Txs
This is very old news.
It happened several months ago and the only reason this story was run was to announce a settlement had been reached.
The issue here was not whether the cop was a moron as much as his agency's failure to train it's personnel and policies which call for use of a TASER in the face of passive resistance. It appears they're one of the many which require it before laying hands on to avoid the possibility (and liability) of injury.
That being said...
I'd like to hear if this guy still has a driver's license. That TASER caused a few seconds of discomfort with no lasting effect, but his actions clearly placed a lot of people's lives in danger out there that day.
I have sympathy for his condition, but if it can't be managed any better than this he doesn't need to be driving.
It is amazing how certain people can justify just about any action by a cop. Or put the blame on the victim. Or both. By your reasoning, ANYONE with many types of medical conditions should not be allowed to drive, just in case they have some sort of attack while they are driving and become incapacitated. That would include all those people on this forum that are on all those pain killers they pop every day, now wouldn't it? And all those people on this forum that are on heart medication, and just about anyone over the age of 40, since they may have a heart attack while driving. Guess they should not be allowed firearms either, should they? Since they could have some sort of medical emergency while using a firearm and shoot someone or themselves accidentally. Or be allowed to operate a boat, or ATV, etc. How about all those just plain old people that can hardly see, or hear, and can barely respond to changing driving situations? Why should they be still driving? Many of them are just a heart beat away from a medical emergency while they are driving. Just today, I was leaving the store and an elderly woman was having trouble getting her car unlocked and asked me for help. Guess what? It wasn't even her car. Once we found her car, she got in and frailly drove away. A medical emergency while driving, just waiting to happen. Maybe a cop will TASER her too, when she is non-responsive. Better just take everyone's license away who has any sort of medical condition or who is over 60 years old, just to be safe.
So tell me...How do you feel about happy Cops with Tasers?
Do tell. Does it start with it all having to be caps?
TASER is not a word, per se. It is an acronym. The letters stand for Thomas A. Swift Electric Rifle.
By the way, if a particular PD puts the use of the TASER before the use of empty hands in its use of force continuum, and the officer uses the TASER in accordance with policy, the officer is not a moron; he is just doing as he has been instructed.
No one was trying to justify, only explain, but of course, m1aguy will never get that.
If a person has a medical condition, such as chronic pain requiring narcotic pain relievers, or uncontrolled epilepsy, they should not be allowed to drive on public roadways.
I have dealt with disoriented diabetic drivers. I have never dealt with the same one more than once, so I tend to believe that the episodes they experienced were anomalous. Just the same, if a diabetic cannot keep his blood sugar under control, he doesn't need to be driving either.
In my years as a peace officer, I have sent in Medical Advisory Board paperwork on fewer than a dozen drivers. The reasons have been heart issues, blackouts, seizures, and blindness. I hate to do it, but you just can't leave a known threat on the road.
You learn something new every day.[:)][8D]
I carry a TASER, but I haven't had to use it yet.
By the way, there is no such thing as a "Taser," and it is impossible to "tase" someone.
Words evolve by common usage(or misusage), not by divine edict. Once a word has been used or misused a certain way enough times, it's meaning is altered or added to.
This is how we ended up with irregardless in the dictionary. The word itself is a grammatical abortion, but it is a word.
You can keep banging your head against the wall crusading against the proper use of the trademark, but eventually you have to get tired of the squishy sound...
quote:Ok. I'll bite.
Do tell. Does it start with it all having to be caps?
By the way, if a particular PD puts the use of the TASER before the use of empty hands in its use of force continuum, and the officer uses the TASER in accordance with policy, the officer is not a moron; he is just doing as he has been instructed.
Same JBT line of thinking justification that German soldiers used as an excuse for the death camps "We were just following orders."
What you can't seem to fathom, is that this cop had NO reason to put hands on or use ANY force against this kid. The kid was just in a car wreck and very well could have had a serious head, neck, or back injury and was non-responsive. And this stupid, moron cop hits him with a taser, twice. And you try to justify it just by saying "PD policy on force continuum."
Welcome to JBT police state America. If you are in a car wreck, and non-responsive, we are going to tase you, not lend aid.
Pathetic.
Nunn, I didn't know TASER stood for "Thomas A. Swift Electric Rifle".
You learn something new every day.[:)][8D]
...And a 'billy club',is actually a 'BLE' club; Basic Law Enforcement club. [;)][;)]
It is amazing...I'm shocked.
I wasn't attempting to justify anything, only attempting to explain something you were apparently ignorant of.
As for wondering if action has been taken to prevent the guy from driving in this condition again, do you not have a problem with seriously impaired drivers of any sort out there on the same road as your loved ones?
You state, "By [my] reasoning, ANYONE with many types of medical conditions should not be allowed to drive, just in case they have some sort of attack while they are driving and become incapacitated."
It's not a matter of my reasoning. Instead it's both long standing law and common sense medical practice. Doctors treating licensed drivers who suffer from unmanaged serious impairment episodes are required by law to report this and after evaluation by a third party physician selected by the state their license may be revoked. It occurs every day.
Diabetes is generally a very controllable condition, but if for whatever reason it's unmanageable - even through the person displaying irresponsibility in their own care - there are systems in place to insure this is dealt with. It's for their safety as well as the rest of us.
Recognizing symptoms of insulin shock or impending diabetic coma does require some training. Such persons can appear to be intoxicated, or high on drugs, or mentally ill, or just unresponsive and uncooperative.
My first aid instructor, way back in basic academy, recommended carrying a few sugar packets, such as are used in restaurants, in the glove box. If someone's sugar is too low, the added sugar will likely bring him around. If it is too high, a little extra won't hurt, considering that in either case, a trip to the ER is indicated.
quote:Originally posted by Txs
This is very old news.
It happened several months ago and the only reason this story was run was to announce a settlement had been reached.
The issue here was not whether the cop was a moron as much as his agency's failure to train it's personnel and policies which call for use of a TASER in the face of passive resistance. It appears they're one of the many which require it before laying hands on to avoid the possibility (and liability) of injury.
That being said...
I'd like to hear if this guy still has a driver's license. That TASER caused a few seconds of discomfort with no lasting effect, but his actions clearly placed a lot of people's lives in danger out there that day.
I have sympathy for his condition, but if it can't be managed any better than this he doesn't need to be driving.
It is amazing how certain people can justify just about any action by a cop. Or put the blame on the victim. Or both. By your reasoning, ANYONE with many types of medical conditions should not be allowed to drive, just in case they have some sort of attack while they are driving and become incapacitated. That would include all those people on this forum that are on all those pain killers they pop every day, now wouldn�t it? And all those people on this forum that are on heart medication, and just about anyone over the age of 40, since they may have a heart attack while driving. Guess they should not be allowed firearms either, should they? Since they could have some sort of medical emergency while using a firearm and shoot someone or themselves accidentally. Or be allowed to operate a boat, or ATV, etc. How about all those just plain old people that can hardly see, or hear, and can barely respond to changing driving situations? Why should they be still driving? Many of them are just a heart beat away from a medical emergency while they are driving. Just today, I was leaving the store and an elderly woman was having trouble getting her car unlocked and asked me for help. Guess what? It wasn't even her car. Once we found her car, she got in and frailly drove away. A medical emergency while driving, just waiting to happen. Maybe a cop will TASER her too, when she is non-responsive. Better just take everyone's license away who has any sort of medical condition or who is over 60 years old, just to be safe.
I think you were "Tased" the day you signed up for this forum! And your still in a state of shock! It must have effected your nibula side of your brain(Liberal side)because you are still speaking in "Tongues"[:o)]
I carry a TASER, but I haven't had to use it yet.
Some folks engage their brain before resorting to a weapon.
Be a much better world if more folks used that way of dealing with things in life.