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quote:Originally posted by glabray
Let's not forget that John Wayne was simply a Hollywood actor.
[:0] No, Tim Robbins is simply another Hollywood actor. So is Brad Pitt and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. I suppose you could similarly say that Mickey Mantle was simply another major league baseball player or that Jimi Hendrix was simply another musician, and you would similarly be wrong; there are a rare few in every profession who transcend the job they do and shine in a separate light. The Duke was certainly one of them.
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by wipala
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by IAMAHUSKER
I like every last one of his movies. How about "The man who shot Liberty Valance"
One of my favorites. Some might argue that Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart got all the good lines, even though the Duke was supposed to be the real hero.
People do not realise that is one of the moviies he died in. Jimmy Stewart is on the way to his funeral and the whole movie is a flashback
I've had this discussion with folks who argue Wayne was killed/dies in the movie, when in reality, as you noted, he was dead when it started. I've heard the only movies in which John Wayne actually dies are The Cowboys and The Shootist, but I'm not really sure.
I think it was "The Sands of Iwo Jima" or one of the other Military movies that he gets shot in after the battle and he's sitting down resting and talking to his men on a hill...........
It's the Duke's birthday today. What's your favorite John Wayne movie?
Too many good ones to pick one favorite.
Some of the ones I really liked were The Quiet Man, The Searchers,Red River,She wore a Yellow Ribbon,Chisum,El Dorado, and McClintock.
Happy Birthday Duke...[^] -- Gone but not forgotten....[V]
I cannot believe it!! No one picked one of the "Trilogies". My favorite, "Fort Apache".
The Green Berets was my least favorite. Made to justify the Vietnam War. I remember when it came out as a kid, very controversial. Be like Bruce (Willis) or Sly (Stallone) making Fort Baghdad these days.
I want to thank all you Vets for you service to our country! Whether you are Red or Blue, Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican, or whatver, please say a little prayer for those who made the ultimate sacrifice!
I am like the rest of a True John Wayne fan. I enjoyed all his movies and would list all those that have been listed on this forum. Yes, he was an actor, but one who was able to engage the viewer in complete enjoyment at watching him ply his craft...
Turner Classic Movies has been running JW movies all weekend. last night I watched Sands of Iwo Jima, also noting that that the Duke gets killed in that one too. Also, If I remember correctly, in Flying Tigers, he crashes his plane into a train.
That makes at least four or five movies he dies in and proves that the legend of Duke rarely dying in a movie is not true. I can remember seeing an interview with Bruce Dern where he makes a big deal about how Wayne "couldnt handle" being killed in The Cowboys, was dead drunk on the set etc. etc.
The quite man. I watch it every St. Patrick's day. Thier all gone. Who would play John Wayne's roles today. No one. Victor McClaglin, the brother-in-law, is also someone who can't be replaced. Maureen O'Hare, well, there aint no lady like that in Hollywood today.
I'm watching The Fighting SeaBees right now. I get really pissed when that jap basturd lying on the beach shoots Susan Hayward. Dirty Nips!
The movie was made in 1944 when folks were still pretty stirred up against the japanese. The stereotype of the japanese soldier was something less than human. In the movies made during the war they often referred to the Japanese as animals.
Don't know what my fav JW film would be, but my favorite quote of his is:
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." (The Shootist)
And don't remember what movie but he had a dog named "dog". That stuck with me, and my best canine companion's pet name was Dawg.
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by wipala
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by IAMAHUSKER
I like every last one of his movies. How about "The man who shot Liberty Valance"
One of my favorites. Some might argue that Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart got all the good lines, even though the Duke was supposed to be the real hero.
People do not realise that is one of the moviies he died in. Jimmy Stewart is on the way to his funeral and the whole movie is a flashback
I've had this discussion with folks who argue Wayne was killed/dies in the movie, when in reality, as you noted, he was dead when it started. I've heard the only movies in which John Wayne actually dies are The Cowboys and The Shootist, but I'm not really sure.
John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
The Deceiver (1931) [Reginald Thorpe's Corpse]: Stabbed to death (off-screen) by Sidney Bracey. (The part was actually played by Ian Keith during the "living" scenes; John only served as a stand-in when the body is discovered.) (Thanks to Brian)
Reap the Wild Wind (1942) [Captain Jack Stuart]: Killed by a giant squid while deep-sea diving through an old shipwreck. (Thanks to Jo and DLS)
The Fighting Seabees (Donovan's Army) (1944) [Wedge Donovan]: Shot in the chest by a Japanese soldier while driving his jeep towards an oil refinery tank; the jeep collides with the tank and causes an explosion, so John manages to carry out his mission even in death.
Wake of the Red Witch (1948) [Captain Ralls]: Drowned after being trapped by falling debris while retrieving gold from a sunken ship. (Thanks to DLS)
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) [Sgt. John M. Stryker]: Shot to death by a Japanese soldier while making his way up Mount Suribachi. (Thanks to Dan, Glen, and Tony)
The Sea Chase (1955) [Captain Karl Ehrlich]: Presumably drowned (off-screen), along with Lana Turner, after their lifeboat is lost at sea. (Thanks to Carl)
The Alamo (1960) [Colonel Davy Crockett]: Killed in an explosion when he sets off the charges, after being stabbed with a lance by a Mexican soldier. (Thanks to Glen and Carl)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) [Tom Doniphan]: Dies (off-screen) of natural causes. His coffin (but not his body) is shown when James Stewart arrives at the funeral home, and the rest of the movie is a flashback to many years earlier.
The Cowboys (1972) [Wil Andersen]: Shot in the shoulders, back, and stomach by Bruce Dern; he dies shortly after the teenage cowboys carry him back to their camp. (Thanks to Betty)
The Shootist (1976) [John Bernard Books]: Mortally wounded by the bartender during a shoot-out in a saloon; he dies shortly after the end of the shoot-out. (Thanks to Michael and Glen)
I've always been partial to Sands of Iwo Jima and They Were Expendable myself. Heck, my online handle used to be Sgt. Stryker in games and things for the longest time.
Way too many to narrow it down to a favorite! Not wild about several, including McQ (?) and Donovan's Reef. McClintock, Big Jake, The Sons of Katie Elder (I clumb that hill*LOL*) El Dorado (Mississippi's sawed of 8 or 10 Ga, coach gun![:)]), sooooooooooo many memorable scenes, lines, etc!
I agree that he WAS just a man, imperfect as any of us, but his abilities in his "trade".......................I could certainly think of many "public figures" I would prefer a child NOT emulate more than John Wayne[:)]
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Just watched Donovan's Reef again. I'm changing my favorite to Donovan's Reef.
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails,
They were bitten off by whales,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga.
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao,
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao,
Oh, the carabao have no hair,
Holy smoke! But they are bare,
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao.
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles,
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles,
Oh, the birdies have no feet,
They were burned off by the heat,
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles.
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time,
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time,
Oh, we'll hop aboard a liner,
I can think of nothing finer,
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time.
Ob, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall,
Ob, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall,
Oh, we'll all get down to Shanghai,
Those champagne corks will bang high,
Oh, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall.
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
And it didn't smell like roses,
So we had to hold our noses,
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
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Let's not forget that John Wayne was simply a Hollywood actor.
[:0] No, Tim Robbins is simply another Hollywood actor. So is Brad Pitt and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. I suppose you could similarly say that Mickey Mantle was simply another major league baseball player or that Jimi Hendrix was simply another musician, and you would similarly be wrong; there are a rare few in every profession who transcend the job they do and shine in a separate light. The Duke was certainly one of them.
Best line in Big Jake: "I don't care who lives, I don't care who dies, I'm going to blow your head off"
Best gun, El Dorado: Mississippi's 12ga SxS [:D]
quote:Originally posted by wipala
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by IAMAHUSKER
I like every last one of his movies. How about "The man who shot Liberty Valance"
One of my favorites. Some might argue that Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart got all the good lines, even though the Duke was supposed to be the real hero.
People do not realise that is one of the moviies he died in. Jimmy Stewart is on the way to his funeral and the whole movie is a flashback
I've had this discussion with folks who argue Wayne was killed/dies in the movie, when in reality, as you noted, he was dead when it started. I've heard the only movies in which John Wayne actually dies are The Cowboys and The Shootist, but I'm not really sure.
I think it was "The Sands of Iwo Jima" or one of the other Military movies that he gets shot in after the battle and he's sitting down resting and talking to his men on a hill...........
It's the Duke's birthday today. What's your favorite John Wayne movie?
Too many good ones to pick one favorite.
Some of the ones I really liked were The Quiet Man, The Searchers,Red River,She wore a Yellow Ribbon,Chisum,El Dorado, and McClintock.
Happy Birthday Duke...[^] -- Gone but not forgotten....[V]
Waynes best movies I think they all were number 1
The Green Berets was my least favorite. Made to justify the Vietnam War. I remember when it came out as a kid, very controversial. Be like Bruce (Willis) or Sly (Stallone) making Fort Baghdad these days.
I want to thank all you Vets for you service to our country! Whether you are Red or Blue, Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican, or whatver, please say a little prayer for those who made the ultimate sacrifice!
That makes at least four or five movies he dies in and proves that the legend of Duke rarely dying in a movie is not true. I can remember seeing an interview with Bruce Dern where he makes a big deal about how Wayne "couldnt handle" being killed in The Cowboys, was dead drunk on the set etc. etc.
The movie was made in 1944 when folks were still pretty stirred up against the japanese. The stereotype of the japanese soldier was something less than human. In the movies made during the war they often referred to the Japanese as animals.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." (The Shootist)
And don't remember what movie but he had a dog named "dog". That stuck with me, and my best canine companion's pet name was Dawg.
Donovan's Reef with Lee Marvin. I've been waiting for it come out on DVD, but haven't seen one yet.
Yep, that one was OUTSTANDING.
EvilDr235
Clouder..
quote:Originally posted by wipala
quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
quote:Originally posted by IAMAHUSKER
I like every last one of his movies. How about "The man who shot Liberty Valance"
One of my favorites. Some might argue that Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart got all the good lines, even though the Duke was supposed to be the real hero.
People do not realise that is one of the moviies he died in. Jimmy Stewart is on the way to his funeral and the whole movie is a flashback
I've had this discussion with folks who argue Wayne was killed/dies in the movie, when in reality, as you noted, he was dead when it started. I've heard the only movies in which John Wayne actually dies are The Cowboys and The Shootist, but I'm not really sure.
John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
The Deceiver (1931) [Reginald Thorpe's Corpse]: Stabbed to death (off-screen) by Sidney Bracey. (The part was actually played by Ian Keith during the "living" scenes; John only served as a stand-in when the body is discovered.) (Thanks to Brian)
Reap the Wild Wind (1942) [Captain Jack Stuart]: Killed by a giant squid while deep-sea diving through an old shipwreck. (Thanks to Jo and DLS)
The Fighting Seabees (Donovan's Army) (1944) [Wedge Donovan]: Shot in the chest by a Japanese soldier while driving his jeep towards an oil refinery tank; the jeep collides with the tank and causes an explosion, so John manages to carry out his mission even in death.
Wake of the Red Witch (1948) [Captain Ralls]: Drowned after being trapped by falling debris while retrieving gold from a sunken ship. (Thanks to DLS)
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) [Sgt. John M. Stryker]: Shot to death by a Japanese soldier while making his way up Mount Suribachi. (Thanks to Dan, Glen, and Tony)
The Sea Chase (1955) [Captain Karl Ehrlich]: Presumably drowned (off-screen), along with Lana Turner, after their lifeboat is lost at sea. (Thanks to Carl)
The Alamo (1960) [Colonel Davy Crockett]: Killed in an explosion when he sets off the charges, after being stabbed with a lance by a Mexican soldier. (Thanks to Glen and Carl)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) [Tom Doniphan]: Dies (off-screen) of natural causes. His coffin (but not his body) is shown when James Stewart arrives at the funeral home, and the rest of the movie is a flashback to many years earlier.
The Cowboys (1972) [Wil Andersen]: Shot in the shoulders, back, and stomach by Bruce Dern; he dies shortly after the teenage cowboys carry him back to their camp. (Thanks to Betty)
The Shootist (1976) [John Bernard Books]: Mortally wounded by the bartender during a shoot-out in a saloon; he dies shortly after the end of the shoot-out. (Thanks to Michael and Glen)
Just watched Donovan's Reef again. I'm changing my favorite to Donovan's Reef.
Now my statistical analysis is RUINED!
I agree that he WAS just a man, imperfect as any of us, but his abilities in his "trade".......................I could certainly think of many "public figures" I would prefer a child NOT emulate more than John Wayne[:)]
Just watched Donovan's Reef again. I'm changing my favorite to Donovan's Reef.
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails,
They were bitten off by whales,
Oh, the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga.
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao,
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao,
Oh, the carabao have no hair,
Holy smoke! But they are bare,
Oh, the carabao have no hair in Mindanao.
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles,
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles,
Oh, the birdies have no feet,
They were burned off by the heat,
Oh, the birdies have no feet in Mariveles.
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time,
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time,
Oh, we'll hop aboard a liner,
I can think of nothing finer,
Oh, we'll all go up to China in the spring time.
Ob, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall,
Ob, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall,
Oh, we'll all get down to Shanghai,
Those champagne corks will bang high,
Oh, we'll all go down to Shanghai in the fall.
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
And it didn't smell like roses,
So we had to hold our noses,
Oh, we lived ten thousand years in old Chefoo.
Great movies he was in, "The Longest Day"