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m-16 bolt carrier headspace
acsglock
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i'm trying to make my ar-15 clone legal. if i change the bolt carrier could it change the headspace?
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fyi: the parts that you cant have(from memory now) bolt, bolt carrier, hammer, disconnector, sear, sellector(i think thats all of them)
if you are caught with even one of these parts in an ar15, it is legaly classified as an unregistered machine gun. that carries with it a 10yr/$250,000.00 fine.
be smart about this. lots of problem can pop up
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1. Bolt carrier - M16 carrier has more metal that allows it to trip the sear, thus it's not allowed (it additionally has a ramp where the AR-15 bolt does not, or at least most AR-15 bolts do not, that on the AR-15 causes the hammer to fail to even slam-fire if you pull the disconnector out without having an auto sear)
2. Hammer - M16 hammer has an additional tab that the sear catches, thus it's not allowed
3. Trigger - M16 trigger has removed metal at rear to allow M16 disconnector to fit
4. Disconnector - M16 disconnector has longer rear tab to allow selector to depress it and disable it from engaging hammer
5. Auto sear - M16 has one, AR-15 does not; it times the hammer to the bolt entering battery
Bolt, selector, burst cam, burst disconnector, etc. are all just fine, because none of them serves toward the purpose of full-auto fire, but merely to make full-auto fire more convenient or reliable. The parts above each contribute directly to making a semi-auto rifle fully automatic, and each is therefore illegal to have in an unregistered gun or, by BATFE doctrine, in possession of anyone who even owns an unregistered gun.
So an M16 bolt in a AR15 is okay?
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this image os from the bushy web site. these are the restricted parts, and how to tell them apart
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I guess the selector counts, probably because it fits into what I was saying about having a direct connection to making the gun select-fire, although with the sear, hammer, and bolt carrier you can just pull the selector and disconnector out and have it run fine, unless the selector does something to the sear that I'm not aware of.
to the bets of my knowledge, the parts in the pic are the only restricted parts. you ant have anythoher parts for the -16, just not those
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to the bets of my knowledge, the parts in the pic are the only restricted parts. you ant have anythoher parts for the -16, just not those
--Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed--
--The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them--
--It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind--
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this is kind of a tough thing to get caught for. were they to get pulled over with those guns, and the officer decided to tear them down to check for this type of thing, and he actually knew what to look for, they'd be screwed. probability of this- >1%.
on the other hand, if their guns were stolen, then recovered, this process might just take place. same result. same probability
you really need to get caught breaking the law to be found out here. pretty much the same with high cap mags in a post ban gun. nobodies really going to investigate the firearms born on date to find out if you can have high caps, unless their trying to pad the list of things a guy did wrong type of thing.
--Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed--
--The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them--
--It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind--
this is kind of a tough thing to get caught for. were they to get pulled over with those guns, and the officer decided to tear them down to check for this type of thing, and he actually knew what to look for, they'd be screwed. probability of this- >1%.
on the other hand, if their guns were stolen, then recovered, this process might just take place. same result. same probability
you really need to get caught breaking the law to be found out here. pretty much the same with high cap mags in a post ban gun. nobodies really going to investigate the firearms born on date to find out if you can have high caps, unless their trying to pad the list of things a guy did wrong type of thing.
--Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed--
--The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them--
--It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind--
Then ive seen dozens of people breaking the law. M16 bolt carriers are popular amoung competition shooters because of their extra weight.
I've seen the same thing, but they were military surplus carriers that had the section milled out (like in KEVD18 sample pic) before they were sold to the general public.
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Don't possess m16 parts and a ar15 period. You can possess m16 parts and not own a ar15 from what I've been told.
...but the rhinelandarms.com R22 .22lr rifle will take the m16 fire control group and shoot full auto so having that rifle and m16 parts is likely bad too.
Don't possess m16 parts and a ar15 period. You can possess m16 parts and not own a ar15 from what I've been told.
...but the rhinelandarms.com R22 .22lr rifle will take the m16 fire control group and shoot full auto so having that rifle and m16 parts is likely bad too.
javascript:insertsmilie('[:)]') the question still stands about the headspace. i have went ahead and changed the carriers out. the action still feels and operates the same, though i have not tried to chamber a round yet. thanks again for all of the input. remember: if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
with pics and "how to do it" in legally converting AR 16 parts (as you
show) to legal AR 15 parts, with mostly grinding and filling in. Not
worth it with "selector" though. (Safety). Best to buy a AR 15 safety.
acs: soory for hijacking your thread
--Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed--
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--It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind--
or using another carrier would not change headspace with existing bolt.
If you have a headspace issue someone didn't make the parts right.
wish i would have thought about milling down the carrier before i cut it in half. can anyone say D A! thanks to all.
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