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Einsteins theory

Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
Einstein developed and proved this remarkable formula; Energy = Mass x Speed of Light squared.

A brilliant genius as we all know.



Another lesser known of Einstein's formulas determined; if you were to strip naked and run around in a circle at the speed of 298 KM/sec (the speed of light) it could be possible for you to sodomize (screw) yourself.....!

Should you determine you are not physically capable of achieving that speed at your age, you can easily achieve the same result by voting Democrat in the Nov. 8, 2016 election
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    that is great [^] and also true as well
  • milesmiles Member Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now that right there is funny Mr.Truck Driver.
    You done good.[:D]
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the speed of light is 298 km per second? [:0]
  • milesmiles Member Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    the speed of light is 298 km per second? [:0]

    It's very simple...
    Common core math says that 298 km per second times the wind speed in Montana on Friday the 13th squared times the number of non-functioning brain cells Obama has = the speed of light which is 186000 miles per second.
    Ain't you never had no book learnin reload999 [:D]
  • gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "'Ask your Doctor if you are healthy enough for sex"

    [;)][:D]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    E=MC 2

    Its all algebra to me...
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,690 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is the energy of a bullet leaving a barrel"

    Energy = mass x velocity squared.

    Therefore the maximum energy available from that bullet would be achieved by accelerating it to the maximum velocity possible.

    The only practical way you can accelerate the bullet to the speed of light is to convert the mass into energy, and this formula tells us what that energy would be.

    The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light.

    Now, *.

    Don
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,265 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The speed of light is actually 299,792 kilometers per second, but that ke is still funny as all get out!
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
  • milesmiles Member Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    "'Ask your Doctor if you are healthy enough for sex"

    [;)][:D]


    Just as a point of interest, I did ask my doctor (Who is also my best friend) that question and after careful thought he called his nurse in and asked her what she thought since she had all my charts.

    He did it just to embarrass me but when she said she had work to do and should just * slap the both of us and stormed out his joke sort of back fired and the joke was on both of us.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He also liked large breasts. So he married his cousin who was well endowed.
    Then he was inspired to discover his most important theory.

    The theory of relativetitty. [8D]
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    Einstein developed and proved this remarkable formula; Energy = Mass x Speed of Light squared.

    A brilliant genius as we all know.



    Another lesser known of Einstein's formulas determined; if you were to strip naked and run around in a circle at the speed of 298 KM/sec (the speed of light) it could be possible for you to sodomize (screw) yourself.....!

    Should you determine you are not physically capable of achieving that speed at your age, you can easily achieve the same result by voting Democrat in the Nov. 8, 2016 election



    Actually, at the speed of light your location would be "everywhere", so you could be potentially sodomizing everyone at the same time, which as you pointed out, is the same as voting democrat.
  • catgunguycatgunguy Member Posts: 6,089
    edited November -1
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    But when you approached the speed of light you'd start going back in time, so you'd just get younger and younger until you just winked out of existence.

    (Damn, I'm getting a headache).
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    There are also the "Economies of Scale"; by voting for DemRats in 2016 you not only screw yourself, but you also screw the Repubs that voted for the Ideal candidate and those Repubs, that due to their reduced number, lost the election to the DemRat.

    So you get several screws for the price of one.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    299,792,458 meters per second.

    Don't blame me, Einstein made the bagels, it's all his fault.
  • glynglyn Member Posts: 5,698 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,206 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    "'Ask your Doctor if you are healthy enough for sex"

    [;)][:D]
    [:D][:D][:D][:D]
  • tccoxtccox Member Posts: 7,379 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So, you are not healthy enough for sex but you do it anyway and die: Well, isn't that we all dream about?? Tom
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    the speed of light is 298 km per second? [:0]
    redneck science. someone said it's the top speed on the odometer of a Porsche, so it must be the speed of light.
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    What is the energy of a bullet leaving a barrel"

    Energy = mass x velocity squared.

    Therefore the maximum energy available from that bullet would be achieved by accelerating it to the maximum velocity possible.

    The only practical way you can accelerate the bullet to the speed of light is to convert the mass into energy, and this formula tells us what that energy would be.

    The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light.

    Now, *.

    Donthere are two types of energy, Potential energy and Kinetic energy.

    Potential energy, described by the equation Pe=M*V, is the energy atored in a body of mass due to its velocity to a position. given by the integral of F=M*V {0 through x} hence the resultant antiderivative is Pe=M*V, because ther eis no x term in the equation.

    potential elergy may also be stored as a result of simple positional occuation in a gravitational field, electrical field, magnetic field, etc. most commonly gravitational.

    Kinetic energy, described by the equation Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, is the energy stored in a body of mass due to its acceleration to a velocity. given by the integral of F=*M*V (0 through v) hence the resultant antiderivative is Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, because there is a v term in the equation.

    the maximum energy of a bullet is determined by the maximum velicity, but because the actual mass-energy equivalence equation is E=SQRT((M*C^2)/(1-1/v)), we find that as velocity approaches C the denominator becomes vanishingly small, and the sum equation infinitely huge, therefore as the object approaches the speed of light it becomes infinitely massive, therefore it would require infinite energy to increase velocity to the speed of light, which therefore is impossible ultimately or, practically, not even tentatively.

    if you were to translate mass into energy in an effort to increase velocity, the mass would have to dissipate entirely until no mass remains, to acheive the speed of light; whereupon the object no longer exists. again it is impossible.

    irregardless of the fact that an object cannot accelerate to the speed of light, the statement "The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light" is false simply because M*V does not equal (1/2)*M*V^2 at any velocity.

    unless, possibly, you insert the term * into the equation.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    which always boggles my mind the fact that so much energy is available in such a small tiny amount of matter.
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    What is the energy of a bullet leaving a barrel"

    Energy = mass x velocity squared.

    Therefore the maximum energy available from that bullet would be achieved by accelerating it to the maximum velocity possible.

    The only practical way you can accelerate the bullet to the speed of light is to convert the mass into energy, and this formula tells us what that energy would be.

    The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light.

    Now, *.

    Donthere are two types of energy, Potential energy and Kinetic energy.

    Potential energy, described by the equation Pe=M*V, is the energy atored in a body of mass due to its velocity to a position. given by the integral of F=M*V {0 through x} hence the resultant antiderivative is Pe=M*V, because ther eis no x term in the equation.

    potential elergy may also be stored as a result of simple positional occuation in a gravitational field, electrical field, magnetic field, etc. most commonly gravitational.

    Kinetic energy, described by the equation Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, is the energy stored in a body of mass due to its acceleration to a velocity. given by the integral of F=*M*V (0 through v) hence the resultant antiderivative is Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, because there is a v term in the equation.

    the maximum energy of a bullet is determined by the maximum velicity, but because the actual mass-energy equivalence equation is E=SQRT((M*C^2)/(1-1/v)), we find that as velocity approaches C the denominator becomes vanishingly small, and the sum equation infinitely huge, therefore as the object approaches the speed of light it becomes infinitely massive, therefore it would require infinite energy to increase velocity to the speed of light, which therefore is impossible ultimately or, practically, not even tentatively.

    if you were to translate mass into energy in an effort to increase velocity, the mass would have to dissipate entirely until no mass remains, to acheive the speed of light; whereupon the object no longer exists. again it is impossible.

    irregardless of the fact that an object cannot accelerate to the speed of light, the statement "The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light" is false simply because M*V does not equal (1/2)*M*V^2 at any velocity.

    unless, possibly, you insert the term * into the equation.
    The (non)word "irregardless" renders the above seemingly knowledgeable detailed explanation of certain physical properties questionable.[8D]
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    What is the energy of a bullet leaving a barrel"

    Energy = mass x velocity squared.

    Therefore the maximum energy available from that bullet would be achieved by accelerating it to the maximum velocity possible.

    The only practical way you can accelerate the bullet to the speed of light is to convert the mass into energy, and this formula tells us what that energy would be.

    The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light.

    Now, *.

    Donthere are two types of energy, Potential energy and Kinetic energy.

    Potential energy, described by the equation Pe=M*V, is the energy atored in a body of mass due to its velocity to a position. given by the integral of F=M*V {0 through x} hence the resultant antiderivative is Pe=M*V, because ther eis no x term in the equation.

    potential elergy may also be stored as a result of simple positional occuation in a gravitational field, electrical field, magnetic field, etc. most commonly gravitational.

    Kinetic energy, described by the equation Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, is the energy stored in a body of mass due to its acceleration to a velocity. given by the integral of F=*M*V (0 through v) hence the resultant antiderivative is Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, because there is a v term in the equation.

    the maximum energy of a bullet is determined by the maximum velicity, but because the actual mass-energy equivalence equation is E=SQRT((M*C^2)/(1-1/v)), we find that as velocity approaches C the denominator becomes vanishingly small, and the sum equation infinitely huge, therefore as the object approaches the speed of light it becomes infinitely massive, therefore it would require infinite energy to increase velocity to the speed of light, which therefore is impossible ultimately or, practically, not even tentatively.

    if you were to translate mass into energy in an effort to increase velocity, the mass would have to dissipate entirely until no mass remains, to acheive the speed of light; whereupon the object no longer exists. again it is impossible.

    irregardless of the fact that an object cannot accelerate to the speed of light, the statement "The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light" is false simply because M*V does not equal (1/2)*M*V^2 at any velocity.

    unless, possibly, you insert the term * into the equation.
    The (non)word "irregardless" renders the above seemingly knowledgeable detailed explanation of certain physical properties questionable.[8D]
    indubitably!
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    What is the energy of a bullet leaving a barrel"

    Energy = mass x velocity squared.

    Therefore the maximum energy available from that bullet would be achieved by accelerating it to the maximum velocity possible.

    The only practical way you can accelerate the bullet to the speed of light is to convert the mass into energy, and this formula tells us what that energy would be.

    The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light.

    Now, *.

    Donthere are two types of energy, Potential energy and Kinetic energy.

    Potential energy, described by the equation Pe=M*V, is the energy atored in a body of mass due to its velocity to a position. given by the integral of F=M*V {0 through x} hence the resultant antiderivative is Pe=M*V, because ther eis no x term in the equation.

    potential elergy may also be stored as a result of simple positional occuation in a gravitational field, electrical field, magnetic field, etc. most commonly gravitational.

    Kinetic energy, described by the equation Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, is the energy stored in a body of mass due to its acceleration to a velocity. given by the integral of F=*M*V (0 through v) hence the resultant antiderivative is Ke=(1/2)*M*V^2, because there is a v term in the equation.

    the maximum energy of a bullet is determined by the maximum velicity, but because the actual mass-energy equivalence equation is E=SQRT((M*C^2)/(1-1/v)), we find that as velocity approaches C the denominator becomes vanishingly small, and the sum equation infinitely huge, therefore as the object approaches the speed of light it becomes infinitely massive, therefore it would require infinite energy to increase velocity to the speed of light, which therefore is impossible ultimately or, practically, not even tentatively.

    if you were to translate mass into energy in an effort to increase velocity, the mass would have to dissipate entirely until no mass remains, to acheive the speed of light; whereupon the object no longer exists. again it is impossible.

    irregardless of the fact that an object cannot accelerate to the speed of light, the statement "The potential energy of mass is equal to the kinetic energy of that mass when accelerated to the speed of light" is false simply because M*V does not equal (1/2)*M*V^2 at any velocity.

    unless, possibly, you insert the term * into the equation.


    Close, but no cigar. Potential energy is not M*V, that is momentum. Pe = mgh which is the integral of F=ma over x from 0 to h.

    I won't even go into the issues with your calculation of kinetic energies while trying to correct for relativistic velocities.

    I do like the fact that at least you are pretty close and trying to learn something that 99% of the people out there wouldn't even bother with because they think it's useless (no it is not).
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    when in a gravitational field, and a different equation when in an electric field, and a different equation when in a magnetic field, and a different equation when held by a spring, or another yet for a rubber band, yada yada

    did you forget that momentum is an expression of potential energy?

    p.s. not trying to learn it, I did learn it. took 2 semesters of calculus level physics and this stuff was covered right at the beginning of the book. most elementary.
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    It is easy to see when someone is losing a discussion when they justify their position by the education they have received. Was it Laugh-In or Hee-Haw that had the telephone operator tht would announce to the caller that she was a "High School Gradu ATE"? Or just the other day two people were giving different points of view- one determined that he was losing, so his next response was "I have a PhD in ..." LOSER!!!
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    when in a gravitational field, and a different equation when in an electric field, and a different equation when in a magnetic field, and a different equation when held by a spring, or another yet for a rubber band, yada yada

    did you forget that momentum is an expression of potential energy?

    p.s. not trying to learn it, I did learn it. took 2 semesters of calculus level physics and this stuff was covered right at the beginning of the book. most elementary.


    Actually momentum is related to kinetic energy. It is the differential of total energy, however, since potential energy is a constant relative to velocity, the d/dv of total energy drops the potential energy term and only acts on kinetic energy which is 1/2 mv^2 in classical physics.
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B
    It is easy to see when someone is losing a discussion when they justify their position by the education they have received. Was it Laugh-In or Hee-Haw that had the telephone operator tht would announce to the caller that she was a "High School Gradu ATE"? Or just the other day two people were giving different points of view- one determined that he was losing, so his next response was "I have a PhD in ..." LOSER!!!


    I DO have a PhD in nuclear physics and if that makes me a loser then I think you need to evaluate where you are in your life.
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    NNNNOOOOWWWW, I'm REALLY impressed

    I've evaluated my position in Life-

    I have no dog in this fight, from my viewpoint I can recognize Male Bovine Excrement when I see it;' and to restate my point,

    When the content of one's response goes from the facts of the topic and yields to personal support- based on paper received- the debater has LOST.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow, I'm lost!!


    So, let's get this back to regular guy level instead of trying to see who has the longest shlong in edumacations.


    A round nosed .30 bullet weighing 180 grains fired at 2800 feet per second hits a deers shoulder 300 yards away. Since the bullet struck bone exactly what will the circumferance of the damaged area be? Like my soelling of that word that in a round about (pun) way means circle? [:D]

    We know what the energy will be at point of impact so no need to show off there. I want to know how much meat is destroyed! [8D]
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AzAfshin
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    when in a gravitational field, and a different equation when in an electric field, and a different equation when in a magnetic field, and a different equation when held by a spring, or another yet for a rubber band, yada yada

    did you forget that momentum is an expression of potential energy?

    p.s. not trying to learn it, I did learn it. took 2 semesters of calculus level physics and this stuff was covered right at the beginning of the book. most elementary.


    Actually momentum is related to kinetic energy. It is the differential of total energy, however, since potential energy is a constant relative to velocity, the d/dv of total energy drops the potential energy term and only acts on kinetic energy which is 1/2 mv^2 in classical physics.
    I already spelled out how momentum (that expression of potential energy) is related to kinetic energy.

    I already showed how kinetic energy is the antiderivative of potential energy, not vice versa.

    as a PhD you should know those things and easily catch errors like the ones you made. either you don't have a PhD or I need to find out where they're hiring PhD's like you so I can get a job!
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    has anyone ever thought there might be two races of aliens somewhere in the universe that, with their advanced technology, have some sort of bombs that uses the speed of light to create infinite mass and blow up the whole universe? and they are threatening each other with Mutually Assured Destruction so we, who aren't even aware of it, could be blown to smithereens at any given moment

    [?] hmmm [?]
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster

    I already spelled out how momentum (that expression of potential energy) is related to kinetic energy.

    I already showed how kinetic energy is the antiderivative of potential energy, not vice versa.

    as a PhD you should know those things and easily catch errors like the ones you made. either you don't have a PhD or I need to find out where they're hiring PhD's like you so I can get a job!


    No form of potential energy is velocity dependent no matter what type of field it exists in. Velocity dependent energy only contributes to kinetic energy.

    I'm never wrong, once I thought I was, but I was mistaken.
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    NNNNOOOOWWWW, I'm REALLY impressed

    I've evaluated my position in Life-

    I have no dog in this fight, from my viewpoint I can recognize Male Bovine Excrement when I see it;' and to restate my point,

    When the content of one's response goes from the facts of the topic and yields to personal support- based on paper received- the debater has LOST.


    You're such a master debater. I'd like to continue this discussion, but I refuse to enter a battle of wits against an unarmed man.
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    I bet you're a double-naught spy, too.
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    I bet you're a double-naught spy, too.


    How did you know. I'm 006, one shy of big time.
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AzAfshin
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster

    I already spelled out how momentum (that expression of potential energy) is related to kinetic energy.

    I already showed how kinetic energy is the antiderivative of potential energy, not vice versa.

    as a PhD you should know those things and easily catch errors like the ones you made. either you don't have a PhD or I need to find out where they're hiring PhD's like you so I can get a job!


    No form of potential energy is velocity dependent no matter what type of field it exists in. Velocity dependent energy only contributes to kinetic energy.

    I'm never wrong, once I thought I was, but I was mistaken.
    well if you want to see how that is, you might reread what you read.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm never wrong, once I thought I was, but I was mistaken.
    [/quote]

    Therefore you were wrong.
    So your statement is wrong.
    So that's twice.
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by AzAfshin
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster

    I already spelled out how momentum (that expression of potential energy) is related to kinetic energy.

    I already showed how kinetic energy is the antiderivative of potential energy, not vice versa.

    as a PhD you should know those things and easily catch errors like the ones you made. either you don't have a PhD or I need to find out where they're hiring PhD's like you so I can get a job!


    No form of potential energy is velocity dependent no matter what type of field it exists in. Velocity dependent energy only contributes to kinetic energy.

    I'm never wrong, once I thought I was, but I was mistaken.
    well if you want to see how that is, you might reread what you read.


    I did re-read and still will tell you that Pe is not equal to M*V as you stated originally.

    Frankly, I'm bored with this discussion. I tried to bring some knowledge to the discussion and keep getting criticized for having a degree. So, I give up. As they say, never try to teach a pig to sing...
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