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Glimmer of hope regarding welfare?

rossowmnrossowmn Member Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭
edited March 2014 in General Discussion
BATON ROUGE, La. - Louisiana welfare recipients will be prohibited from spending the federal assistance at lingerie shops, tattoo parlors, nail salons and jewelry stores, under new limits enacted by state social services officials.

The Department of Children and Family Services announced the emergency regulations late Thursday. They cover the Family Independence Temporary Assistance Program - commonly known as welfare benefits - and the Kinship Care Subsidy Program.

Both programs pay cash assistance to low-income families for items like food, clothing and housing.

DCFS Secretary Suzy Sonnier said the agency decided to ban the use of electronic benefit cards, which work as debit cards, at stores that don't sell items that are considered basic needs for families.

"This rule will not affect families who currently use the program as intended, which is to provide food, shelter and clothing for families," Sonnier said in a statement.

About 3,500 households in Louisiana receive welfare benefits, and about 2,400 households get kinship care subsidies, according to the department. Average payments are $192 per month for welfare and $419 a month for kinship care.

The emergency regulations come a week after WAFB-TV in Baton Rouge reported that an Ascension Parish lingerie store posted a sign noting that it accepted the welfare benefits card along with most credit cards.

Also barred in the latest restrictions from taking welfare debit cards are video arcades, bail bond companies, cruise ships, psychics, adult-entertainment businesses, nightclubs, bars and any businesses where minors are not allowed.


My thought: It's a nice gesture and a nice start but, alas, it will never catch on enough to make a larger difference. Common sense has little chance in these days of rampant entitlement.[:(][:(][:(]

Comments

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,234 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    It's a great though, and a well needed start. However, if it's anything like this state, they can just go to an ATM and draw out cash. As I understand it, that's how it works in this state.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    It's a great though, and a well needed start. However, if it's anything like this state, they can just go to an ATM and draw out cash. As I understand it, that's how it works in this state.
    Thats the problem right there...
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The usual way to get around any restrictions here is to go shopping with a food stamp recipient.

    You buy whatever you want, let the guy on food stamps pay for it...then give him 50 cents for every dollar of groceries he just bought you.


    He then takes the money and buys his cigs and beer.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like to have them drug tested along with the aid
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    But Rack--Us has gotsta hab ar booz n smokes [:p]
  • blackpowder70blackpowder70 Member Posts: 154 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had people approach me and ask to buy my Groceries before. They said they would buy 150 in food and I give them 75 dollars cash.Told them to pack sand. I hate the whole welfare moocher system.
  • utbrowningmanutbrowningman Member Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I find it hard to believe only 3500 households in Louisiana receive welfare.
  • fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,554 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    mich is going to try the welfare drug testing in a limited capacity trial ,,that got the idiots screaming foul...crap when i worked for the state i had to pee randomly and after every serious incident working with violent idiots
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd sigh up for dat welfare ifn I cud buy me some guns wid that welfare money.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    The usual way to get around any restrictions here is to go shopping with a food stamp recipient.

    You buy whatever you want, let the guy on food stamps pay for it...then give him 50 cents for every dollar of groceries he just bought you.


    He then takes the money and buys his cigs and beer.






    That is exactly what is going on in my area. The steak and other groceries are outright traded for tobacco and alcohol. Either with friends or other family members.

    A sterling example of a government solution. Replacement of stamps with a piece of plastic was supposed to stop all of this.

    These laws may make the lawmakers feel good, but it will never work.
    The real solution rests in slowing and eventually turning off the supply of tax payer blood.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    I'd sigh up for dat welfare ifn I cud buy me some guns wid that welfare money.
    Ya gottsta save up foar a cuple of weaks but I think yu cuud...
    Whats yu wonting to get ??? A Gluck... ??? With clips... ?????
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    The usual way to get around any restrictions here is to go shopping with a food stamp recipient.

    You buy whatever you want, let the guy on food stamps pay for it...then give him 50 cents for every dollar of groceries he just bought you.


    He then takes the money and buys his cigs and beer.






    That is exactly what is going on in my area. The steak and other groceries are outright traded for tobacco and alcohol. Either with friends or other family members.

    A sterling example of a government solution. Replacement of stamps with a piece of plastic was supposed to stop all of this.

    These laws may make the lawmakers feel good, but it will never work.
    The real solution rests in slowing and eventually turning off the supply of tax payer blood.
    There is no easy solution... Short of stopping the program.

    You could argue that recipients could be forced to go to a welfare ONLY exchange store...
    And be given ONLY the foodstuffs they are supposed to get.
    They get what they could... then take it back to the hood and barter for what they wanted... Booze and drugs.

    Stopping the program... Then... Make 'em get a job... Is all that'll work.
    Then they can spend THEIR cash an whatever the hell they wanted...
    THAT... Would be perfectly fine with me.

    Can't work they say... Fine...
    Put 'em all in a home, give 'em a roof over their heads, three hots and a cot,
    and some sort of menial labor to offset the costs and be done with it.
    And find a productive job in the real world they can do and put'em to work.
    They leave the "program"... Their out... No More Help. PERIOD...

    One chance... ONLY One.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58

    Can't work they say... Fine...
    Put 'em all in a home, give 'em a roof over their heads, three hots and a cot,
    and some sort of menial labor to offset the costs and be done with it.


    Sounds like a ramped up Public Housing Project to me.....I think thats a solution that has it's own set of problems.

    As you said, there are no easy solutions....


    Mine involves forced sterilization......but that opens another can of worms.
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO MAS: Louisiana Bans Use of Welfare Benefits for Tattoos, Lingerie, Jewelry

    By Clash Daily / 23 March 2014


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    BATON ROUGE, La. - Louisiana welfare recipients will be prohibited from spending the federal assistance at lingerie shops, tattoo parlors, nail salons and jewelry stores, under new limits enacted by state social services officials.

    The Department of Children and Family Services announced the emergency regulations late Thursday. They cover the Family Independence Temporary Assistance Program - commonly known as welfare benefits - and the Kinship Care Subsidy Program.

    Both programs pay cash assistance to low-income families for items like food, clothing and housing.

    DCFS Secretary Suzy Sonnier said the agency decided to ban the use of electronic benefit cards, which work as debit cards, at stores that don't sell items that are considered basic needs for families.

    Read more: Fox News

    Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2014/03/mas-louisiana-bans-use-welfare-benefits-tattoos-lingerie-jewelry/#By6PaRULv68qExR5.99
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Makes one wonder how people survived before 1965 and all of LBJ's "Great Society" programs.
    I know several quadriplegics. All of them work.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by utbrowningman
    I find it hard to believe only 3500 households in Louisiana receive welfare.


    I would bet there's more than that in New Orleans alone.
  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    I like to have them drug tested along with the aid


    +1

    Cut out the free drug phones and Tax refund checks while at it.
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