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Well , after all only 14 % of immigrants

select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
are in Construction .. according to the news tonight. Wow, I am surprised .. How many % are in Drywall?. Now I don't feel so bad my new home was built ( framing, drywall ) with Mexicans trying to make a living.And some of them have been here for a very long time.

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  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    That's a nationwide percentage - here in California it's more like
    60%+ and the overflow are beginning to head East. If you haven't
    had the pleasure of meeting them in great numbers I think it won't
    be long. Apparently another wave is on it's way - not just from
    Mexico but lots of third world countries. I was talking to a friend
    in WA and it Asian hordes up there - Eastern Europeans along the
    East Coast, etc. [:D]
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    you keep bringing it up. you must be either trying to cause problems or feeling guilty...I know, scratch it till it bleeds. we all understand your position on the subject so give it a rest will ya?
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's the matter.. Afraid of the facts. Everyone seems to think the immigrants are taking all the high paying jobs away from the good ol' hard working American. I don't. Anywho, one of the members on here was complaining all the work they had taken from him. Bolona..
  • RevolutionJimRevolutionJim Member Posts: 594 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if your point is construction jobs are jobs Americans don't want, they are a lond way from cutting lettuce. You are talking skilled labour and breaking unions, middle class jobs that do alot of damage to the country.
  • One shotOne shot Member Posts: 1,027
    edited November -1
    select fire: The simple fact is the issue deals with illegals. If we look the other way on this issue than whats next. Try wrapping your mind around that one.
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    ok them numbers where I work are COMPLETE BS...

    Not to key the same note, But I feel I must inform you 14% is BS!

    try 60-80%
  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    Honestly, if we don't start deporting/enforce
    laws on the books/and take our country back it
    won't be recognizable as the United States for
    much longer. No kidding around.
  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ...I don't think those numbers would wash here,...most the construction jobs for years have gone to the mexcans,...part of my business for 30 years. Concrete, roofing...way more than 14%, try 80%+...

    ...WE have a culture too, it's American, for now...[:0]




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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well , all you diehard Bush supporters, read the DATE on the top of this article.






    09/05/2001 - Updated 11:14 PM ET





    Fox urges Bush to speed immigration accord


    By Larry Downing, Reuters
    Mexican President Vicente Fox and President Bush listen to their national anthems.

    By Laurence McQuillan and Mimi Hall, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON - Mexican President Vicente Fox challenged President Bush on Wednesday to reach an accord this year aimed at allowing millions of Mexicans to work legally in the United States and create "new conditions of fairness" in both countries. Speaking during a red-carpet arrival ceremony at the White House, Fox addressed a problem that has strained relations between the two nations, which share a 2,000-mile border.

    Read more


    Stories Foxes taste the glam side of White House
    State dinner guest list
    Issues resonate from border to Toledo
    Bush and Fox form a presidential, personal alliance




    "We must and we can reach an agreement on migration before the end of this very year," Fox said. Such a pact would be meant to reduce dangerous illegal crossings from Mexico and ease the burden on the United States, which provides education and other services to illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes. Fox also called for legal recognition for undocumented workers already in this country.

    What's for dinner?

    On the menu for Wednesday's state dinner for Mexican President Vicente Fox:
    First course: Maryland crab and chorizo pozole, summer vegetables, Mi Sueno Chardonnay ''Carneros'' 1999.
    Second course: Pepita (pumpkin seed) crusted bison, poblano whipped potatoes, fava bean and chanterelle ragout, apple chipotle sauce, Shafer Cabernet Sauvignon ''Hillside Select'' 1994.
    Third course: Salad of gold and red tomatoes, mache and micro greens, sherry dressing.
    Dessert: Mango and coconut ice cream dome, peaches, raspberries, red chile pepper sauce, tequila sabayon, Schramsberg ''Cremant'' 1997.



    After the two leaders talked for about 90 minutes, White House national security adviser Condoleezza Rice emerged from the meeting to describe their discussion. She told reporters that Bush would like to nail down an agreement this year but stopped short of a deadline. "We were aware that President Fox had this objective," Rice said. "Indeed, we think that it would be terrific if we were able by the end of the year to achieve agreement."

    She emphasized, however, that while Bush "shares the desire to do it quickly," he wants "to get it right." Privately, some administration officials said Fox's timetable caught them off-guard, and they would have preferred that he not state it publicly. They said it will be difficult to move immigration legislation through Congress quickly. Congressional Republicans generally want more limited changes. Democrats have called for expanding Bush's idea to other nationalities.

    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, the senior Democrat on the House immigration subcommittee, said, "It is disappointing that both presidents think reform will take so long to broker." Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the congressional immigration-reform caucus, said chances are slim that Congress will grant legal status to undocumented Mexicans. "It sends the wrong message," he said.

    Fox wants a swift agreement so it can be approved by both countries and implemented while he and Bush are in their first terms. Bush's term expires in 2005, Fox's in 2006.

    Bush said both nations "must work together in a spirit of respect and common purpose" on immigration, illegal drugs and environmental protection. "The United States has no more important relationship in the world than the one we have with Mexico."

    Experts estimate that at least 3 million Mexicans are now working illegally in the USA, most in low-paying jobs. Bush has endorsed extending legal status to at least some Mexicans and other illegal immigrants who are working and paying taxes in the USA. But he has not defined the conditions under which they would receive permanent residency or said whether they would become citizens.

    This morning, Fox is scheduled to become the first Mexican leader in a decade to address a joint session of Congress. He then flies with Bush to Toledo, Ohio, for a midday visit with Mexican-Americans living there. They will then return to Washington for a small dinner hosted by Fox.




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  • COLTCOLT Member Posts: 12,637 ******
    edited November -1
    ...who cares about what Bush does on illegals, he's as bad as the rest...allowing them to take over, has known no party lines...THEIR all guilty...[xx(]





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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The United States has no more important relationship in the world than the one we have with Mexico."

    Experts estimate that at least 3 million Mexicans are now working illegally in the USA, most in low-paying jobs. Bush has endorsed extending legal status to at least some Mexicans and other illegal immigrants who are working and paying taxes in the USA.


    Just a little rehash how everything has turned out since 2001... From 3 million to 12 million. This administration looks like it has had it under control...[:o)][:o)]
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would say only 14% of the entire crew are legal immigrants. I bet another 15%-20% are here and working illegaly
    Half of the lives they tell about me aren't true.
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cubslovers
    I would say only 14% of the entire crew are legal immigrants. I bet another 15%-20% are here and working illegaly


    I bet when illegals start driving ambulances your figures will change [:o)]
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I just posted the figures ..4 x as many since 2001 according to our government. Sounds like they didn't do to good of a job keeping them out. WEll, I have a question then.. How come before 2001 when 3 million came in , this was never a problem. What changed that?
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    What's the matter.. Afraid of the facts. Everyone seems to think the immigrants are taking all the high paying jobs away from the good ol' hard working American. I don't. Anywho, one of the members on here was complaining all the work they had taken from him. Bolona..

    it doesn't matter what jobs they are taking...they are taking taxes resorces needed for our poor and sick. they are invading our country, they preach revolution against America. They are violent racists. what would you say if boatloads of chinese invaders did an amphibious landing on malibu beach? these guys will ruin our country in more ways than you can imagine the full bredth and depth of the problem is just beginning to be made public.... blocking traffic is reason enough to run them off....IMO
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Well I just posted the figures ..4 x as many since 2001 according to our government. Sounds like they didn't do to good of a job keeping them out. WEll, I have a question then.. How come before 2001 when 3 million came in , this was never a problem. What changed that?



    scott21166, you didn't answer the question.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    How come before 2001 when 3 million came in , this was never a problem. What changed that?


    Because we're at war! dont you remember WWII we locked all them sneaky japs up in concentration camps and we couldnt get a lick of work out of them. We'll never make that mistake again!
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