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shipping damage to LC Smith- no insurance
snocountry
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Recd. a great shotgun today but the buttstock is cracked at the sideplates. The outside box had a small amount of damage as did the hard case (cracked at the corner) Took it up to the post office and the postmaster said if it was insured- no problem. Called the seller and he asked "how do I know you didn't crack it taking the stock off"? I've shipped guns all over the country and never had a problem.
And said I'm through talking with you. It was paid for and shipped through the postal service and usps money orders so I'm in the process of talking with a postal inspector (phones busy) Any other ideas?? Iknow? lousy feedback but these types respond with worse. look at my one negative
And said I'm through talking with you. It was paid for and shipped through the postal service and usps money orders so I'm in the process of talking with a postal inspector (phones busy) Any other ideas?? Iknow? lousy feedback but these types respond with worse. look at my one negative
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I think you could sue him to recover the money, the postmaster might even bring chages against him if he took money to buy insurance and didn't follow thru, and you can prove it with emails, PMO receipts and the original ad.
Wait, I am more interested in the fact that this dude shipped a shotgun via post office!
Why? It happens everyday.
It is only illegal for NON FFL holders to ship pistols though the UPSP.
Any one can ship longs guns USPS and 01 FFL's can ship anything they want USPS.
One thing I would get done as soon as possible. Ship that gun BACK insured with signature conformation. If you hold onto it for any lenth of time he can say something like....."I give a three day inspection and it has been too long to refund your money." If he is a cheeseball he could pull something like that. I would get it going back to him and start after him for your money.
The bad news.....getting your money is hard. Really, the only route you can take is to sue him if it comes down to it. You will have to get a lawyer in his area to file suit. The more you have to show your side of things...the better. Show pics of the auction....PRINT THAT OUT NOW since these things aren't available later. No insurance....I still can't believe anyone would ship something without it.
Recd. a great shotgun today but the buttstock is cracked at the sideplates. The outside box had a small amount of damage as did the hard case (cracked at the corner) Took it up to the post office and the postmaster said if it was insured- no problem. Called the seller and he asked "how do I know you didn't crack it taking the stock off"? I've shipped guns all over the country and never had a problem.
And said I'm through talking with you. It was paid for and shipped through the postal service and usps money orders so I'm in the process of talking with a postal inspector (phones busy) Any other ideas?? I know? lousy feedback but these types respond with worse. look at my one negative
With respect to feedback I think it's important for you to post it despite whatever knock the fellow may place against you. I had a similar situation & posted my honest feedback anyway. The seller of course retailiated - I went to GB directly & the negative feedback from me stood while theirs was negated. You can respond to their negative feedback on you, plus I think most folks can detect retaliatory feedback rather readily. The tone of what a person posts for rebuttal is pretty revealing, I think.
I've never held out much hope with respect to the Post Office getting involved based on USPS MO being used for payment. Unless it's an amount I'm willing to lose I always pay with a credit card. I know it's not foolproof and I miss out on deals, but I'm just morecomfortable that way.
The only reason a seller would ever hold feedback is to NEG a paying buyer ANYTIME they receive feedback they do not like.
I have considered neging each and EVERY seller that witholds feedback.
I ALWAYS post positive feedback to a paying buyer BEFORE I even ship the gun.
Ship an accurate described gun promptly and a good seller never should fear bad feedback from a paying buyer.
End of story...
#4 in the GB contract says "shipping and insurance" and seller said $30 in the ad. the ad also stated 7 day inspection- shipping included. Gun was shipped parcel post- not broken down as I requested- tho it was put into a hard case and no insurance. Gee sorry but for $2630 I expected a little more than this.
so you expected 30 dollars to cover shipping and insurance for a 2600 dollar gun? I think you would have to admit you were expecting something for nothing unless you figured this seller had a trick for buying cheap insurance. Your seller is a complete idiot to not put at least enough insurance to cover damage on the gun
I shipped a 1500 dollar rifle today thru priority mail it came to 46 dollars including 1500 insurance and tracking/delivery confirmation and that was from washington to oklahoma. I probably waste money insuring the whole value, but then the gun could be totaled or stolen and I would be out a lot of cash for a protectable loss.
I think the PO adds 100 dollars insurance automatically I doubt that will pay the whole repair but it is something...
"seven day inspection period, shipping included". My email with the photos to the seller was time dated exactly 23 minutes after being delivered usps.
#4 in the GB contract says "shipping and insurance" and seller said $30 in the ad. the ad also stated 7 day inspection- shipping included. Gun was shipped parcel post- not broken down as I requested- tho it was put into a hard case and no insurance. Gee sorry but for $2630 I expected a little more than this.
How in the hell could it break in a hard case?
Interesting- but the seller has several choices when listing ie: buyer pays shipping- seller pays shipping- buyer pays flat amount. Gunbroker says in their policy that set fee INCLUDES shipping and insurance. For the sake of argument- say the gun was stolen in transit and no insurance.- who would be out the $2630? the buyer or the seller? And to add insult the seller has stipulated in his ad-
"seven day inspection period, shipping included". My email with the photos to the seller was time dated exactly 23 minutes after being delivered usps.
Don't get me wrong, by the letter of the law and the wording in his ad, he is completely responsible. To answer your question, it makes no difference in this instance whether the gun is broken or stolen, he promised to provide a product and charged a fee for the service (even if it was partly included in the purchase price)
Maybe He thought he was dodging a bullet by investing in a hard case for the gun he would have been better off to ship it in a paper bag and provide the promised insurance.
quote:Originally posted by snocountry
#4 in the GB contract says "shipping and insurance" and seller said $30 in the ad. the ad also stated 7 day inspection- shipping included. Gun was shipped parcel post- not broken down as I requested- tho it was put into a hard case and no insurance. Gee sorry but for $2630 I expected a little more than this.
How in the hell could it break in a hard case?
Cheap $12 plastic case from wally-world.