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Can I Join Your Fire - Redux

whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
edited February 2002 in General Discussion
The first thread I started on this board was `Can I Join Your Fire'. Since we have so many new faces, I though it might be fun again.If you could sit around a get-away camp for a few days and could have a guest or two or three of your choice, who would it be. To make it even more interesting, this hypothetical camp-mate could be from the past. And then tell us why you chose who you did.I'd like to talk at length with Thomas Jefferson, to understand, if I could, what inspired him. And to Red Cloud or Crazy Horse to get a better understanding of how they managed to cope with the loss of their very civilization. And to William Rogers Clark on what drove him to do what he did as your country expanded beyond the eastern seaboard. Clouder..(EDIT) I meant George Rogers Clark, Williams brother, although William wouldn't be a bad choice either.[This message has been edited by whiteclouder (edited 02-06-2002).]
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    J.S.Bach, Alan Keyes, Bill Clinton, and Thomas Jefferson. Remember how Slick would always talk about, and compare himself to Jefferson? I would think it would become very apparent how full of s$%^ Slick is.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Great topic clouder,this will take some consideration though.............
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  • leadlead Member Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Theodore Roosevelt and George Washington, and then maybe Marilyn Monroe(you get bored with politics after awhile!)
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm gonna' ask to talk to that "higher power" you guys are always talking about, just to see if he'd show up.Mudge the agno....oh you know
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    John Moses Browning....to find out what else was on the mental drawing board...Gen. George S. Patton....Just to see if historians painted an accurate picture...Michael Angelo.....to study art and sculpture under the master....
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  • hunter280manhunter280man Member Posts: 705 ✭
    edited November -1
    Fred Bear....Met him years ago, wouldnt mind talking with him now that I've reached puberty, he inspired me at 6or7 years old.Ted Nugent....Met him and his nephew at a party my brother threw back when we where both living at home. Teddy Rosevelt....Wished I knew him, always wanted to see things through his eyes. John Denver....He knew how to make a campfire magical!
    The older I get, The better I was!!!
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd like to share a fire with Jesus, as well.
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    OK, J.C. would be pretty interesting, but I'll bet I get a chance to see him later--even if it's "But, but the church SAID it would be allright if I just confessed every Sunday!!!" as St. Pete pulls that trapdoor lever.................Other than that-My Grandfather- to see if he thinks I did it "right".Teddy Roosevelt- The gentleman apparently was a font of useful and useless knowledge.Benjamin Franklin- The same reasons as Roosevelt, but the guy was also one of the founders of our country. How cool is THAT?(I'd love to hear his take on the 2nd Amendmant!!!!!) (An alternate would have to be Hemingway- Just to hear the stories.......)
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having thought about this a little more, being a History buff....I would love to sit around and listen in on the conversations of the following as they critique and revisit their role in history after the fact....picture this....Winston Churchill, Eisenhower, Bradley, Patton, Montgomery, Rommel, Stalin, MacArthur, Halsey, Nimitz, King, Yamamoto, and Stephen Ambrose as the moderator....
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  • legn4legn4 Member Posts: 481 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    J M Browning & G A Custer.
    Work'n like a dog all nite
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  • instrumentofwarinstrumentofwar Member Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sun-Tsu, Myamoto Musashi, and Leonard PeltierPatton would be right up there like to get him and Sun-Tsu going at it.
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Member Posts: 5,378 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, George Mason, James Polk, U.S. Grant, G.A. Custer, George Washington, T.R., Ike, MacArthur, Robert E. Lee, Wade Hampton III, Lewis & Clark, George W. Sears(Nessmuck), Ashley Haines, Horace Kephart, and a few other I can't think of at this hour of the morning.WOODS
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Clouder, kinda hard without knowing the size of the campfire. Guess I will assume it is not a roaring conflagration and submit several different lists; historical, musical, literary and political. That ought to do it (for now) Historical comes now with the rest requiring some cogitation.Attila, Eric the Red, Ghengis Kahn, Harold Harsgreaves, Gustavus Adolphus, Ethelred the Unready, Chris Columbus and Baron von Clauswitz (sp?)For the musical fire, I would have J.S. Bach, Vivaldi, Charlie Parker, John Philip Sousa and Elvis
    Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis[This message has been edited by Shootist3006 (edited 02-08-2002).]
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt...I like your list; but I'd lock Montgomery and Stalin in a bathroom stall together. They deserve each other. Teddy Roosevelt would be my number 1 visitor followed by Thomas Jefferson and then to keep things current I'd like Condoleeza Rice to sit in. Beach
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    The girls from the Hawaiian Tropic tanning commerical. The conversation might not be stimulating, but at my age, it's hard to get stimulated over anything. -Charlie
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelNRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some interesting ones. Come on, let's have a few more and then maybe we can start one on heros, who they are, what they are and why they are.Clouder..
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  • CAndres35CAndres35 Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i wpoul sure like to visit with my dad again.then i hjave some hunting friends that have passed that i woudnt mind visiting with again. when you reach my age a lot of your friends are no longer around. of course it would be nice to listen to some of our heroes,inventors,philosephers,and moses and pauland Jesus ould also be great. so many and so little time. carl
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember it, 'Clouder, don't remember my response. Twas a good topic. I'll take Jefferson, my Pop, my friend Chris, and Jim Bridger would be fun. Ayn Rand would be lotsa fun. Hey, they don't have to be dead, could be B.T., W.S. and Festus could have a hell of a good time, IMHO. Johnny would be there anyway.
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  • smokepolesmokepole Member Posts: 34 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Howdy all! Stumbled upon the site while avoiding work. Hope you don't mind if I sit a spell. And, to sit next to me I'd choose:Abraham Lincoln: Our greatest president and one of our greatest writers. No president had a tougher job and none performed better. I'd ask him if the Reconstruction went as he hoped and if America has turned into what he wanted it to become.Martin Luther King, Jr: Certainly would keep the level of conversation on a high plane. He was a brilliant leader and organizer, understood the mass media incredibly well, and understood how to get things done. I'd ask him what he thinks of race relations in America today, if he thinks we need to do more. I imagine he'd marvel at how far we have come.Albert Speer: Nazi German's architect and chief of production. A brilliant man and an artist who somehow allied himself with some of the most evil men to ever walk the planet. While I'd like to talk to him about some of Germany's weapons and its incredible ability to conduct R&D and to keep increasing production even as Germany was destroyed, I'd also want to ask him how he could have done what he did. Hitler would just babble and ramble. Speer might give some true insights.Gus McCrae and Call from Lonesome Dove: Call would just grunt and consider me some city slicker, but McCrae would start telling me about whores and rustling cattle and chasing Blue Duck all over the southwest. J.M. Browning and Eugene Stoner at the same time: It would be fascinating to hear them compare their ideas on both design and production. I imagine Browning might be as impressed with Stoner as Stoner would be with Browning. Boy, I could go on and on. It would have to be one heck of a campfire. Oh, and did I mention that there'd be a few pretty ladies walking around filling up our coffee mugs. They might distract me from the conversation, but I'll take that chance!
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many of those mentioned above and GEN John M. Schofield. His definition of discipline smacks of "New Army" attitude and would really like to know what he thinks "harsh and tyrannical treatment" really is.
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  • instrumentofwarinstrumentofwar Member Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All this talk of generals brings another to mind. GEN Shinseki. Just to ask him what exactly goes on in that mind of his, and to know who exactly paid him off.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think I'd most like to sit around the fire with the people that comprise my lineage. All the great grandparents and their parents, etc. It would be interesting to see from whom I inherited all of my good traits!
    Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
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  • Ms. BeastMs. Beast Member Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember the original post. it was a good one! I would love to sit around a fire with a bunch of the people here and from other boards I visit. I also would love to visit with family that has past on.
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  • WyomingSwedeWyomingSwede Member Posts: 402 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I dimember that post too. Great topic again clouder. I would like Louis L'Amour, Teddy Roosevelt, Jedidiah Strong Smith, Ernest Shackleton, and Roald Amundson around my fire. "Mad" Anthony Wayne for a fill in.swede
    WyomingSwede
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All of you.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One day, varmint hunter!
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  • smokinggunsmokinggun Member Posts: 590 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would pick Bin Laden so I could finish him off and collect my reward. BillOf course I would still do it without the reward and enjoy it just as much.[This message has been edited by smokinggun (edited 02-08-2002).]
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  • drachdrach Member Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    J.R.R Tolkein, Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and Karl Marx. All wrote about alternate civilizations, one was completely off base.
    Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands") ~~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)
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  • oldfriendsoldfriends Member Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reading all the previous posts it's hard to beleive we have so many deep thinking individuals here It's good to see.I would like to have my dad. He was very much responsible for who I am. I wish I could do the same for my son.Next I would like to sit and talk to Ben Franklin. What a mind he had. Sitting around a fire with some of the old mountain men would be a treat. Jed Smith, Kit Carson, "Liver eatin' Johnson", Jim Bridger, etc. I would also enjoy a conversation with Jesus. (No, not Jesus Cordova, down the street. Good thread. Causes one to think. Not too common here
    Life is Tough!It's Tougher if You're Stupid[This message has been edited by oldfriends (edited 02-08-2002).]
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Varmint hunter.....very classy response. All the best to you. Beach
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  • fatbobcatfatbobcat Member Posts: 73 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I think about that question,The one that comes to my mind would be, Jack OconnorI would have given a lot to have had the chance to sit around a campfire,talking about the days events or the plans for the next day.I know the stories he could tell would have passed a week away faster than our lives pass, I invited Jesus to be with me a long time ago,and he is.FATBOBCAT
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just for the sake of being ornery....I'd like to have a 2 week campfire stranded with a high ranking Peta official....every day I'd have some wild game roasting over the campfire, the aroma would be irresistable....while I ate my deer roast and Peta ate nuts & berries...we'd discuss our differences of philosophy...
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  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good one Clouder. I would like to sit down with all the men and women who have shown bravery far beyond and made this country great and ask them where and how they found the courage. I would also like to sit down on a log with you Clouder and have a good long talk. Probably have to take that book away from you and slap you up side the head a couple of times though!
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Damn Rosie,You almost made it.Great try.
    A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt--PETA...excellent idea. Being that I'm a closet AD&D freak (joined by one other who has posted on this thread) I would have to second the motion to share company with J.R.R. Tolkein. He certainly wouldn't be sharing the stage with any of us when it comes to campfire tales and stories.
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  • drachdrach Member Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I missed one other incredible mind, Frank Herbert.
    Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands") ~~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the younger" ca. (4 BC - 65 AD)
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This needs more.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mark Twain for some wonderful humor. I still think his books and stories were some of the finest this country has ever produced. Beach
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    PATRICK HENRY,CUZ HE ROCKS.JOAN OF ARC.BERNIE GOETZ,JOHN HOLLAND,HYMAN G. RICKOVER,LEOPOLD&LOEB,SACCO&VANZETTI,MARY SURRATT,RUSH LIMBAUGH,JFK,ROGER STAUBACH,TERRY BRADSHAW,REGGIE WHITE,DR ADRIAN ROGERS,AND ALL MY GRAND PARENTS JUST SO THE HISTORY STAYS STRAIGHT.
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    PATRICK HENRY,CUZ HE ROCKS.JOAN OF ARC.BERNIE GOETZ,JOHN HOLLAND,HYMAN G. RICKOVER,LEOPOLD&LOEB,SACCO&VANZETTI,MARY SURRATT,RUSH LIMBAUGH,JFK,ROGER STAUBACH,TERRY BRADSHAW,REGGIE WHITE,DR ADRIAN ROGERS,AND ALL MY GRAND PARENTS JUST SO THE HISTORY STAYS STRAIGHT.
    Submarine Sailor,Truck Driver,and very bad typist.GO RUSTY #2
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