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Bike Vs Truck
grumpygy
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Truck driver got Killed in this Bike rider hurt but stable.
In this photo you can see if the Bike was not speeding the truck just turned left and he had no where to go.
quote:A man died Sunday morning after a motorcyclist crashed into his pickup and flew through the truck's windshield on Highway 51, state troopers said.
Officials say that the motorcyclist, 22-year-old Bradley Mosey of Independence, received non-life threatening injuries and is being treated in the hospital.
According to the police report, Billy Austin, 77 of Monmouth, was driving his Chevy pickup north on Highway 51 when at around 11:30 a.m. he made a left turn into a driveway.
Austin was about a quarter of the way into his turn when officials say Mosey hit the right-front corner of the truck, flew off his motorcycle and through the pickup's windshield.
Police said that Mosey came to a rest near the rear seats of the pickup.
Both men were flown to Salem Memorial Hospital; Austin was pronounced dead at the hospital from crash-related injuries.
Troopers credit Mosey's survival to his protective helmet and safety gear.
Witnesses told troopers that neither the motorcycle nor pickup was speeding at the time of the crash.
In this photo you can see if the Bike was not speeding the truck just turned left and he had no where to go.
quote:A man died Sunday morning after a motorcyclist crashed into his pickup and flew through the truck's windshield on Highway 51, state troopers said.
Officials say that the motorcyclist, 22-year-old Bradley Mosey of Independence, received non-life threatening injuries and is being treated in the hospital.
According to the police report, Billy Austin, 77 of Monmouth, was driving his Chevy pickup north on Highway 51 when at around 11:30 a.m. he made a left turn into a driveway.
Austin was about a quarter of the way into his turn when officials say Mosey hit the right-front corner of the truck, flew off his motorcycle and through the pickup's windshield.
Police said that Mosey came to a rest near the rear seats of the pickup.
Both men were flown to Salem Memorial Hospital; Austin was pronounced dead at the hospital from crash-related injuries.
Troopers credit Mosey's survival to his protective helmet and safety gear.
Witnesses told troopers that neither the motorcycle nor pickup was speeding at the time of the crash.
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never seen a rider come away the winner
Why I want to know what he was wearing, Iron Man was hurt after doing that much damage.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
Add in he was not speeding when it happened.
Either the Firemen cut the top or the truck has a weak one.
quote: Mosey came to a rest near the rear seats of the pickup.
I don't suppose a guy who doesn't wear a helmet is in much position to talk rider safety odds.
While I always wear a helmet, even to go round the block, I think luck had the most to do with this...wow!
Experience (time in the saddle) won't make up for reflexes and knowing how to instantly react correctly. I can't think of any way to train for this type of event.
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
Tragedy. I suppose we will never know if a more experienced rider could have avoided the collision. Thats why I go full gear every time- 104 on the ride home from work today.
Dave (and anyone else that rides), which way would you have turned the bars to avoid the truck (as it moved left to right in front of you)?
Experience (time in the saddle) won't make up for reflexes and knowing how to instantly react correctly. I can't think of any way to train for this type of event.
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
Tragedy. I suppose we will never know if a more experienced rider could have avoided the collision. Thats why I go full gear every time- 104 on the ride home from work today.
This is why I do not like ABS on my bike, given enough time to react, lock the back wheel, give a hard jerk on the handlebars and lay it down praying the entire time. I would rather go feet first and not head first.
The ABS wont allow that move and the chance of high siding is greatly improved.
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
Agreed on that...
I've had a driver cut me off before... Had "just enough time" to clear the rear bumper...
I was doing 60mph... When I got her stopped, I had to take a long walk.
Pretty much the same situation happened with me... Sun in my eyes as well.
I didn't see the car until I was almost on it... Made one quick swerve to the left and clear the bumper.
For those who missed it, he was 77. I guarantee that at least one of the following happened:
-Truck driver never saw the motorcycle
-Truck driver saw the motorcycle, and misjudged the closing speed, thinking he had enough time to get through the turn
-Truck driver slowed down much more than was necessary to safely complete the turn.
I don't see many possible scenarios, given the facts (neither vehicle was speeding), that places the motorcyclist at fault.
"According to the police report, Billy Austin, 77 of Monmouth, was driving his Chevy pickup north on Highway 51 when at around 11:30 a.m. he made a left turn into a driveway."
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
Did anyone else notice the age that the article said the driver of the truck was?
For those who missed it, he was 77. I guarantee that at least one of the following happened:
-Truck driver never saw the motorcycle
-Truck driver saw the motorcycle, and misjudged the closing speed, thinking he had enough time to get through the turn
-Truck driver slowed down much more than was necessary to safely complete the turn.
I don't see many possible scenarios, given the facts (neither vehicle was speeding), that places the motorcyclist at fault.
Unless you read something I missed, the truck was turning left and crossing oncoming traffic. Would that not put the fault on the truck driver.
"According to the police report, Billy Austin, 77 of Monmouth, was driving his Chevy pickup north on Highway 51 when at around 11:30 a.m. he made a left turn into a driveway."
quote:Originally posted by Zulu7
Did anyone else notice the age that the article said the driver of the truck was?
For those who missed it, he was 77. I guarantee that at least one of the following happened:
-Truck driver never saw the motorcycle
-Truck driver saw the motorcycle, and misjudged the closing speed, thinking he had enough time to get through the turn
-Truck driver slowed down much more than was necessary to safely complete the turn.
I don't see many possible scenarios, given the facts (neither vehicle was speeding), that places the motorcyclist at fault.
Please, the facts are not important to the smartest man on the GunBroker forums. Don
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
It would not have totaled a Ford......[;)]
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
It would not have totaled a Ford......[;)]
Was trying not to go there [8D]
Dave (and anyone else that rides), which way would you have turned the bars to avoid the truck (as it moved left to right in front of you)?
Experience (time in the saddle) won't make up for reflexes and knowing how to instantly react correctly. I can't think of any way to train for this type of event.
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
Tragedy. I suppose we will never know if a more experienced rider could have avoided the collision. Thats why I go full gear every time- 104 on the ride home from work today.
Depends on how much time I have by the look of things that Bike rider did not even have time to do anything.
Last one who did something to me like that, I had a little time, if she would have just kept driving instead of stopping right in my path it would have been no problem Slight right path deviation and I would have cleared. As it was I locked it up and Slide so that my Right knee was almost touching her door when I stopped.
She heard every word I said, forgot I was not wearing a full face helmet but a Half Helmet and the words were Marine Taught.
quote:iceracerx
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Posted - 07/29/2013 : 8:18:52 PM
Dave (and anyone else that rides), which way would you have turned the bars to avoid the truck (as it moved left to right in front of you)?
Experience (time in the saddle) won't make up for reflexes and knowing how to instantly react correctly. I can't think of any way to train for this type of event.
By the way- my original post- I was refering to todays indicated temperature on a bank sign, not an indicated speed I was traveling.
Unless you read something I missed, the truck was turning left and crossing oncoming traffic. Would that not put the fault on the truck driver.
Generally speaking, the motorcycle has the right of way, you have to yield to oncoming traffic when you are making a left turn.
I'd tend to agree with Zulu, his three theories seem the most likely. One would assume if he had seen the motorcycle he would not have turned in front of it. My Dad is 79 and he is at that age that I don't feel comfortable about him driving, his reaction times are very slow, and his vision is failing him. I worry that something like this could happen.
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
At 11:30 AM? The sun's too high at that time of day to be in anyone's eyes. I think the PU driver just flat out didn't see the bike.
Either the Firemen cut the top or the truck has a weak one.
if they had cut the roof, it would either no longer be attached to the truck, or would be hanging off the c pillars, rolled completely back so as to be hanging off the bed.
i see all pillars intact, except maybe the right side a pillar, cant really tell but even if thats separated, the rider did it not the jaws.
My guess, and that's all it is.The truck turned in front of the bike,coming right out of the sun..[V]
At 11:30 am the sun should have been nearly overhead, not at anyones back or in anyones eyes.
quote:Originally posted by booter_one
Unless you read something I missed, the truck was turning left and crossing oncoming traffic. Would that not put the fault on the truck driver.
Generally speaking, the motorcycle has the right of way, you have to yield to oncoming traffic when you are making a left turn.
I'd tend to agree with Zulu, his three theories seem the most likely. One would assume if he had seen the motorcycle he would not have turned in front of it. My Dad is 79 and he is at that age that I don't feel comfortable about him driving, his reaction times are very slow, and his vision is failing him. I worry that something like this could happen.
I'm glad you were able to (correctly) read into what I was saying.
More often than not, if you have a 70+ year old involved in a collision, you will find that it was the older person who was at fault. With age comes slower reaction times, poor eyesight, and questionable judgement.
I've known more people who have been in collisions that were caused by an old person doing something wrong than anything else.
In fact, in January 2005, I was in a head-on collision right in front of my house that was caused by an 82-year-old woman who was driving on the wrong side of the road on her way home from the American Legion hall 1/4 mile away.
Nationwide, I think elderly drivers need to have a higher standard place on renewing their drivers licenses.
In my opinion, drivers over the age of 60 should have to take a written test every year, and a road test ever other year to renew their license.
Over the age of 70, it should be a written and road test every year.
If nothing else, at least this would be an accurate way to record the deterioration of a person's driving ability.
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
Guess whoever told you that a bike could not destroy an auto(Granted, it's not much of an auto) never saw this picture...
http://www.gogocycles.com/horrible-motorcycle-accident.html
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
Look at the damage to that truck. Somebody once told me right here on GB that a bike would not total a car, that's a truck and it is finished, kaput, done, junk, caused by a motorcycle and rider.
And by the looks of the shadow from that firefighter I would say the sun was in the bikers eyes, not the truck drivers.
Guess whoever told you that a bike could not destroy an auto(Granted, it's not much of an auto) never saw this picture...
http://www.gogocycles.com/horrible-motorcycle-accident.html
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http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=601321&SearchTerms=insurance
My Harley weighs more than a Crotch Rocket! Add a 200# rider to a 700+ pound bike, 900#s at highways speeds T-Bone accident, car is totaled. [:0]
If he had been driving this truck he'd still been alive and had a new hood ornament.