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Model 710

SuburbanNoizeSuburbanNoize Member Posts: 10,142
edited October 2006 in General Discussion
Well i think i might have found my next love. remington model 710. I figure i need a 30/06 to round out my collection. Any comments good or bad about this gun would be appreciated. this is the specific one im looking at http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=56898682

Comments

  • richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    Waste of money. This was remingtons attempt to price savage out of the "Cheap" gun market, it was a failure. Buy the savage/stevens 200, much better rifle, can be had for about $250.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    x-ring Richbug! Subruban, if you don't buy anything else don't by a 710.
  • jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    Agreed, piece of cr@p. Very good suggestion on the Stevens 200. I'm under the impression this is the same rifle as the Savage 110 only without the accu-trigger. Both these rifles (710-200) can be had for roughly the same $$$$. Having had a 710, VERY briefly, I wouldn't have another.

    Ben
  • SuburbanNoizeSuburbanNoize Member Posts: 10,142
    edited November -1
    OK if the 710 is cr@p, what do you guys think of this beauty?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=57445890
  • Jake_S-83Jake_S-83 Member Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what are you looking to use the rifle for, and what do you want to spend?
  • richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    that is exactly what I suggested.
  • jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    Thought you were looking for an 30-06?

    Or are you just asking about the model?

    3 of us have already given recommendtions on the Model 200.

    If that is your price range you need to stay in then I say go for it.

    Ben
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you can squeeze out a little more change the accutrigger it is worth it. If not this is a far better choice.
  • SuburbanNoizeSuburbanNoize Member Posts: 10,142
    edited November -1
    Im looking to spend about 300-350 on my next gun. Ive got a chinese SKS, Wasr-10 Ak, 22 Marlin and an 870 express so i figure i need a gun with a longer range. Im mainly planning on using the gun for the range trying to get some good groups at 100 yds. Im not sure whether i should get a 30/06 or a .223? any suggesstions? also thank your for seuggesting the stevens 200 its a beautiful gun and i think its much better than the 710
  • MrOrangeMrOrange Member Posts: 3,012
    edited November -1
    *sigh*

    Look, it's been well established by the Supreme Court that every free man in the United States is required to own at least a .22, a 12g, a .30-06/.308 and a 1911.

    You could look it up.
  • jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth.

    In that price range I'd look for a GOOD used Savage 110 w/accu-trigger (adjustable trigger). They can be found often in that price range.

    If I HAD to buy new, then I'd get the Stevens 200. Same gun without the accu-trigger.

    On caliber, it really just depends on what you plan on using the rifle for, now AND later on. You say you want to just punch holes in paper at 100yds. Thats fine, but do you ever see yourself needing a rifle for hunting, say the size of game such as deer? If you think you will eventually need a hunting rifle then without question, between your two choices, I'd choose the 30-06. IF you are only going to plink with it then the .223 will serve you fine.

    Both cartridges are easily available and relatively inexpensive. The 30-06 is going to have quite a bit more recoil than the .223 for shooting paper. However, I personally wouldn't use the .223 in a hunting application for anything larger than a coyote (others might disagree, but thats just me).

    Personally, if I thought I'd EVER want a hunting rifle I'd go with an '06, everyone should have/had atleast one, it's a classic. You can punch holes in paper and still use it to hunt anything in North America. If not then the .223 will definately be easier on your shoulder.

    One side note. You might consider a .243. Big enough for deer sized game without the added recoil for target shooting. Only drawback is the ammo won't be as cheap for plinking as you can find in 30-06 and .223.

    Good luck!

    Ben
  • chris_cechris_ce Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK if the 710 is cr@p, what do you guys think of this beauty?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=57445890

    I have that exact gun and it is probably my most favorite at least it is the one I shoot the most. I would try you local dealer though becuase I got mine for about that price but it was a package and it came with a scope. I just had to have them order it and then wait.
    I had the 710 also and I thought it was a decent gun but I like the stevens much better.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about a used Remington 700 with the synthetic stock for that price. I bet it can be found for $350. Trigger is adjustable and it is not crap.
  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your going to primarily be target shooting and plinking get a 308 Win. instead of the 30.06 -- It will recoil less, more abundant cheap ammo, more inherently accurate and up to around 165/168gr bullet weight it's just about a ballistic twin to the .06 unless your a serious handloader and/or shoot heavy bullets (180gr and up). With the heavy bullets the .06 has a definate advantage of powder capacity and will push those bullets faster.
    The 308 is a great deer gun as well, and would be a better choice than the 223 if you think you will be hunting down the road.
    Forget the 710 -- It's junk as noted above -- go with what the other guys reccomended on rifle choices.
    My .02 cents -- Good Luck.........................................
  • BHAVINBHAVIN Member Posts: 3,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wise replies. BLUCK[xx(][xx(][xx(]. Get a good 700 and never look back.
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Speakin of the 710 I was lookin at ammo in a local sporting goods store and this guy came over and started talking about buying himself a new rifle. I had previously noticed him handling the 710 and me thinking "man I hope he doesn't buy that rifle". Next thing I hear is "that 710 sure is a nice rifle for that price" and I'm looking at him like "[xx(]". I told him all I knew about it, which is mostly what I've read around the net and my brief experiences in handleing the gun with its terrible action. So then I did what you guys do, I referred him to the Savage 110 and then he looked at me like I said something taboo, but everyone knows that the 710 isn't Remingtons finest hour. It was almost like I said "Go get yourself a BRYCO man they're a fine pistol!!" Then again this guy was considering something in a 7mm mag because he hunts out of state atleast one weekend a year and might need to reach out to 300 yards.[:0][:0]
  • yearofspideryearofspider Member Posts: 1,657 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Buy one of these. It's in your price range and one of the best shooting 30-06's ever.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=57023477
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jbw1776
    Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth.

    In that price range I'd look for a GOOD used Savage 110 w/accu-trigger (adjustable trigger). They can be found often in that price range.

    If I HAD to buy new, then I'd get the Stevens 200. Same gun without the accu-trigger.

    On caliber, it really just depends on what you plan on using the rifle for, now AND later on. You say you want to just punch holes in paper at 100yds. Thats fine, but do you ever see yourself needing a rifle for hunting, say the size of game such as deer? If you think you will eventually need a hunting rifle then without question, between your two choices, I'd choose the 30-06. IF you are only going to plink with it then the .223 will serve you fine.

    Both cartridges are easily available and relatively inexpensive. The 30-06 is going to have quite a bit more recoil than the .223 for shooting paper. However, I personally wouldn't use the .223 in a hunting application for anything larger than a coyote (others might disagree, but thats just me).

    Personally, if I thought I'd EVER want a hunting rifle I'd go with an '06, everyone should have/had atleast one, it's a classic. You can punch holes in paper and still use it to hunt anything in North America. If not then the .223 will definately be easier on your shoulder.

    One side note. You might consider a .243. Big enough for deer sized game without the added recoil for target shooting. Only drawback is the ammo won't be as cheap for plinking as you can find in 30-06 and .223.

    Good luck!

    Ben


    +100, Savage is really starting to produce some nice rifles. They're not benchrest 4-500+yd rifles, but are easily MOA capable rifles, good for 2-300yds shots, some even beyond that. For target shooting the 223 is a pleasure and very accurate, a nice varmint round as well. The 30-06 will take any size North American game with ease, is just as accurate, but with much more recoil.

    If hunting is out of the question the Savage w/accutrigger and heavy barrel in 223 will be your new pride and joy. Top it with a nice scope and you'll have a rifle that you can punch bullseyes @ 100yds with all day long.
    Half of the lives they tell about me aren't true.
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    I've gotten back into target shooting
    and I have a bull barrel syn stock
    Rem 700 223 that has (on my good days)
    put 5 shots in 1/2" at 100 yds and I know can
    can do better once I settle down.
    I have a new 243 same rifle config
    at the gunsmith that I hope will do
    as well and will when I get thru with it.
    I also have a BDL 270 that to my surpise
    has put factory ammo (5 shots) same range
    in 3/4" inch. This rifle except for a timney
    trigger is right out of the box slim barrel
    and all.What I"m trying to say in my dumba$$
    opinion you can't beat a Rem 700. Of course
    I haven't tried another make of rifle to confirm
    this and at this point in time I don't
    ever intend to. Rem 700 for 37 years
    has served me well and always got the job done.
    I'm really happy with the 223, low recoil and
    very accurate[:)][:)]
  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    Speakin of the 710 I was lookin at ammo in a local sporting goods store and this guy came over and started talking about buying himself a new rifle. I had previously noticed him handling the 710 and me thinking "man I hope he doesn't buy that rifle". Next thing I hear is "that 710 sure is a nice rifle for that price" and I'm looking at him like "[xx(]". I told him all I knew about it, which is mostly what I've read around the net and my brief experiences in handleing the gun with its terrible action. So then I did what you guys do, I referred him to the Savage 110 and then he looked at me like I said something taboo, but everyone knows that the 710 isn't Remingtons finest hour. It was almost like I said "Go get yourself a BRYCO man they're a fine pistol!!" Then again this guy was considering something in a 7mm mag because he hunts out of state atleast one weekend a year and might need to reach out to 300 yards.[:0][:0]

    Like you really need a belted magnum for 300yds -- I've dropped Elk past 300yds with a 308 Win. and a 270 Win. [:0].
  • ruger270manruger270man Member Posts: 9,361 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    is this thread a joke?

    I could take a crap in a box and sell it to you for the price of the 710, and you'd probably be getting a better deal.

    Do yourself a favor and get either a Savage or Stevens.
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    Speakin of the 710 I was lookin at ammo in a local sporting goods store and this guy came over and started talking about buying himself a new rifle. I had previously noticed him handling the 710 and me thinking "man I hope he doesn't buy that rifle". Next thing I hear is "that 710 sure is a nice rifle for that price" and I'm looking at him like "[xx(]". I told him all I knew about it, which is mostly what I've read around the net and my brief experiences in handleing the gun with its terrible action. So then I did what you guys do, I referred him to the Savage 110 and then he looked at me like I said something taboo, but everyone knows that the 710 isn't Remingtons finest hour. It was almost like I said "Go get yourself a BRYCO man they're a fine pistol!!" Then again this guy was considering something in a 7mm mag because he hunts out of state atleast one weekend a year and might need to reach out to 300 yards.[:0][:0]

    Like you really need a belted magnum for 300yds -- I've dropped Elk past 300yds with a 308 Win. and a 270 Win. [:0].


    Funny, thats what I thought too!![:0] I told him that 300yards is a very reasonable distance for the .308 and he said "Well maybe I could tape the ballistics on the stock"[xx(] Why not zero @ 200 and aim 2" higher? I guess some people just don't know, or just don't get it.[B)]
  • CA sucksCA sucks Member Posts: 4,310
    edited November -1
    When I first started to think about buying a rifle (when I had only a 20 cal sheridan air rifle, and had shot only 22's a 30-30 , and a 308), I looked at the 710. Then I looked at the Savages, (after buying and selling a few 22's), Im in favor of Stainless steel, because you dont need dessicants and airtight safes and excessive oiling to keep them rust free (my shotgun started to get spots of rust on the finish[which i wiped off anf put extra oil on and appeared to fix], so i decided my next gun would be SS). Then as graduation loomed nearer and nearer I figured I'd have more money at my disposal and set my sights on a stainless M1A(near bolt action accuracy). If I were still looking for a cheaper bolt action rifle, I'd go with a savage.
    Ive seen adds on the outdoor cable/hunting channels for 710's, but I know a guy who last year bought a single shot savage, and everything else i've heard tells me savage is where its at.
    As to online auctions, they might be unloading 710's and some good prices, but I wouldnt pay the MSRP price for a 710.
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